The Atheist Battle Plan?

This scares me a lot. I think even the Atheist people on this forum should be open enough to realize people should be allowed to believe what they want and live how they want, and trying to circumvent that by controlling all aspects of the educational system is extremely scary to me. I wouldn’t want the whole educational system to be run by Christians who refuse to acknowledge the rights of Atheist people to believe God does not exist, so why do they want to refuse the rights of religious people to believe He does? So often religious people are accused of being close-minded and small, and yet I don’t see how this reaction by Atheist people to eliminate other beliefs is NOT close-minded? No matter what you try to say you cannot prove God’s non-existence any more than I can prove His existence, thus Atheism is a form of religion that elevates man (or perhaps science) to the ultimate authority, the god to be worshiped.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion
The set of beliefs of Atheism? (according to the above article)

  1. God does not exist except as a fantastic creation of the human imagination
  2. Science although imperfect can be perfected to explain the universe completely, given enough time
  3. Beliefs other than those that acknowledge the non-existence of God and the supremacy / perfectability of human observation are corrupt and pollute society
  4. Beliefs that corrupt and pollute society should be eradicated.

To me it sounds more extremist than any religious people I’ve ever met.

Also consider this: Athesists claim that God is a human invention and that is why he cannot exist as an authority over how we think or behave or how we live… Is Science NOT a human invention?

'tis, but science doesn’t attempt to be an authority over how we think, merely a tool for us to be able to verify what we suspect.

Before getting off-topic with difference of sciences and religions, ill just say one thing to the topic.

Im up for a fight.

No, you’re not.

:thinking:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfqht0LEOWQ
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edit: tried to do a GILD and failed due to the imbed damn

I HATE that about the imbed thing.

hahaha that vid is quite funny actually

sorry for the mionr thread jack but i thought it quite poignant

number 4 is the only one which i belive to be extremist

It seems a bit allarmist. I D’Souza haven’t convinced me theres that much effective deliberate indoctrination going on beyond what is required to teach science.

To take an outdated example without gray areas: If I was teaching astronomy and to someone who believed that the sun was in orbit around the earth, I would have to show him some sattellite photos etc. The goal wouldn’t be to make him atheist.

Quite honestly I think science proves a God does indeed exist and whether a God does or does not exist is up for the person to decide for themself based on the evidence.

Funny vid BTW.

So what is the evidence on which you’ve based your opinion?

Welll lets see the irriducible complexity of cells, the probability of a life sustaining universe (can’t remember the #), the historical acuracy of the Bible, and all the various proofs of Jesus death, burial, and ressurection just to name some.

768 > science > religion

If we band together in 768, we can trump even the atheists.

You just proved GILD right.

The atheist battle plan: argue with the nutters!
Argue with the nutters = abolish freedom of religion? What? That makes no sense!
Yay!

Just because modern cells are complex, you cannot assume that early cells were as well.

You also cannot assume that early cells did the same thing as modern cells. All that is necessary is that they can reproduce in a slightly flawed manner.

A side-note: The watchmaker argument: WATCHES EVOLVED.

We don’t know what the probability of life’s existence is. I suspect that it is quite high, but any exact numbers you have heard are entirely fabricated.

I am not familiar with any evidence that the Bible is historically accurate, and even if parts of it are, that doesn’t mean anything.

There are parts that are definitely not accurate.

Have you ever heard of the “scientific miracles” of the Qur’an?

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_index.html

Why do you not follow Islam?

^^^ Don’t pick on easy targets.

It’s not nice.

In any case, I laughed for about half the time that video was playing.

You’re afraid of the 1-2% of people who actually call themselves atheists? :thinking:

As most of you know, I’m a passionate follower of Christ. I try to live my life based on the example he gave us. I do believe in god and I do believe Jesus was God. But even so I don’t think science has ANYTHING to say about God. It neither proves nor disproves God. All science does is provide evidence to suggest how things work. But here’s the thing, even if you know how things work, the God question is who made them work that way? Random chance, or some higher being? The issue is, people seem to be so willing to trust science to show truth, when it only ever shows evidence.

I’m afraid of the fact that they have a plan through which they will indoctrinate people to believe science as the ultimate giver of truth.