tendons

a while ago I complained here about my Achille’s tendons
-I broke one, then afterwards had severe problems with boths-
I thought that was because I am not that young and that I am not a relaxed person.

and now a youngster in our group (age 13) is having troubles
(big troubles: the doctor says 3 months without uniing!)

So I am wondering: is it possible this is a uni-specific disease?
what may cause that?
bad position of the foot? constant micro-movements while trying to regain balance? stress?

any idea?

That’s horrific! I can’t even go three days (… hours …) without uniing. My achilles tendon feels a bit off from time to time, but I always put it down to stiffness. I stretch before doing any freestyle practice, because those skills seem to be the ones that induce uncomfortableness. Stretching the tendon (and the rest of my leg) as well as doing a warm-up ride (some idles, one footing, a lap around my block) keeps everything great, and I usually do a cooldown to avoid stiffness after.

I’m pretty sure it’s the stress of stopping, putting all the pressure on the back foot to stop the wheel completely. It’s only my left one that gets that discomfort too, and that’s the one I use almost exclusively to stop (even though I should be using my non-dominant foot equally, oh bad habits bad habits :D)

-dave

Just learn to go one-footed.

But if both of them are bad enough, learn to coast.

I’ve had knee problems the last month or so, and if possible, see a sports injuries physiotherapist who will tell you how to work on the problem, and improve riding technicque and complimentary exercises. They will probably give you more optimistic/realistic timescales. The physio I saw yesterday was very good, and even assessed my riding technique.
Doctors just check you haven’t broken anything & tell you to do nothing for an excessive amount of time! surely 3 months without uniing will just mean that the problem will re-occur?
good luck with yours, and the 13-y-o’s tendons!

Mike

edit - equally useful alternative suggestion to learning to coast to solve the situation, would be to ride pedalling with your hands while sitting on your head.

that sounds really bad as some 1 said ride 1 footed

Re: tendons

“mikepenton” <mikepenton@NoEmail.Message.Poster.at.Unicyclist.com> writes:

> Doctors just check you haven’t broken anything & tell you to do nothing
> for an excessive amount of time!

Nonsense. Surely, there must be competent dostors in the UK. As far
as I’m concerned, prescribing excessive rest is unethical.

Where I live (Colorado, USA) we have orthopedists who actually do
their job. Not only will they splint your broken bones, but give you
a real diagnosis for other sorts of injuries. I see doctors who not
only specialize in sports injuries and specific area of the body
(knee, foot, etc.), but also understand the rigors of the sports I
perform, and the need to resume activity quickly.

In the US, patients see physical therapists after being diagnosed by a
doctor. I don’t know how much training UK physiotherapists have, and
so I can’t say whether they are a sensible alternative to doctors
specializing in sports medicine.

The best doctors can be found by learning who professional athletes,
dancers, etc. see. I have had to pay extra to see the best because
they were not on my insurance company’s preferred list, but it was
well worth it.

Ken

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“wobbling bear” <wobbling.bear@NoEmail.Message.Poster.at.Unicyclist.com> writes:

> So I am wondering: is it possible this is a uni-specific disease?
> what may cause that?

Achiles tendon, huh. Were you doing big drops?

I’ve had achilles tendon problems in the past from rock climbing, but
it’s easy to see how standing on dime-width edges with the tip of your
toe might be extra stressful.

I wonder whether unicycling caused my recent foot problem. I
fractured a sesamoid bone in my big toe. Sesamoid bones are embedded
in tendons (e.g. the kneecap is a sesamoid bone), and mine fractured
after a period of increasing pain in the flexor tendon of the
afflicted toe. Since I was doing a lot of riding on pavement, trying
new skills and falling a lot, when this occurred, I have wondered if
it was repeated stress for UPDs that broke it.

Ken

My guess is that because when we pedal, our Achille’s tendon is constantly being stretched and relaxed, so if a person did have problems, they would arise. Although from what I’ve seen it isn’t a common porblem amog unicyclist, so I think it might be coincidence with you two both having it.

However, to avoid further prblems try these things to help:

Raise your saddle, it may be too low. Your body may compensate for a low saddle by bending the ankle too much at the top of the pedal stroke, which in turn puts strain on the Achilles.

Try not to pull the pedal through at the bottom of strokes, let your top foot do the work for you. Check your technique, because you might be doing more work than you need to.

Also here are some stretches for your Achilles:

Stand with the balls of your feet on something, like a curb, that will allow your heels to drop below level

  • Slowly lower your heels until you feel a good stretch hold for at least 20 seconds. Do not stretch too far - this should not be painful.

  • Do this several times before each ride especially if you are training on hills and you should be able to avoid injury.

  • Stand upright about 3 feet from a wall

  • Lean against the wall without losing the straight line of the head, neck, spine, pelvis, legs and ankles

  • Keep both heels down, flat together and parallel to the hips

  • Exhale, bend your arms, move your chest toward the wall, and shift your weight forward

  • Hold the stretch and relax

Thats What I could find, and hopefully those stretches help. Happy riding.

Re: tendons

Achilles tendons problems might (I’m just hypothesising!) occur more
in unicyclists than in bicyclists because we generally ride at higher
cadence.

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:29:07 -0500, “Catboy” wrote:

>Raise your saddle, it may be too low.

But the saddle shouldn’t be too high either, or you will have to
stretch your feet (ankles, really) to reach the bottom pedal. Now the
stretching itself will contract the Achilles which is probably not
strenuous for it, but the Achilles will go through cycles with larger
amplitudes which will “wear them out” more.

Another suggestion might be to place your feet more forward on the
pedals. That will decrease the forces on the Achilles tendons, I
think.

Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict

wouldnt you be grumpy if somone just said you had PMS? - jagur

[QUOTE]
Originally posted by Catboy
Also here are some stretches for your Achilles:

[QUOTE]

Thank you very much for these, I was having problems finding some. They’ll be in my warmup this morning :sunglasses:

Re: Re: tendons

thanks to all who replied
thanks for the warming/flex suggestions

this very saturday I had a problem while missing an easy bump in the woods and my right tendon overstreched and now hurts.

there have been posts about the position on the pedals:
I always have my pedals under the arch of my foot, and the boy who got hurt has not. I suggested that he put his foot more forward but wasn’t 100% sure this was a good advice;