tandem unicycling

and the front person has more room to juggle 3 clubs while riding tandem, though passing them back and forth could be impressive!

These are some interesting dynamics you speak of. Would it be better to be even closer? Why?

From the arm waving in the video, I’m assuming that their biggest problem is left-right stabilization. Thoughts?

When I think of unicycling, there is back pressure even when riding forward, and the brain seems to be constantly monitoring and adjusting the balance.

With all the subtle adjustments in balance that take place on the pedals, slowing to avoid coming off the back, speeding up a bit to avoid coming off the front.

For those of you who have actually done this tandem uni, must you mind read of tune into your partner? Are you sharing your uni mind?

[I guess this thread is picking up much more than the other Tandem thread, so I’ll post here.]

The circus at Redlands CA have, or at least use to have, a giraffe tandem.

Assuming that controlling direction of travel is difficult, the farther the riders are spread out, the greater inertia they have to overcome to make changes in direction (plus lower ground clearance). The one Ken Fuchs made in '91 had the riders pretty close together; it looked a little crowded on there. But probably afforded better control by bringing the mass closer in toward the wheel.

I haven’t done it (I think I tried a bit), but I remember the feedback from Ken and Sem when they were doing theirs; they seemed to agree that the back rider was the “dominant”, possibly because of a better view of the other rider. Also that their best rides came when Ken tried to act as support while Sem “drove”.

Ooh, that would be cool to see (and try)

BTW, the one I mentioned from the Redford Township Unicycle Club was made in the 70s, and I believe part of why it wasn’t used was structural problems; not enough stiffness in the lower frame, which caused it to bend or bounce.

Absolutely! Let’s give it a try!

some thoughts from my experience

When you start the tandem trainig, controlling of tilting (I hope, that’s the right word) is the bigger problem, you will never go so far, that control of direction will be a problem.
Later, when you can handle the tilting, controlling of direction will become the bigger problem. Driving curves remains difficult.
Less control caused by greater inertia may be a part of the problem, but I think is only minor. (Maybe greater inertia is also helpful for stabilization)
The bigger problem is synchronization and “overdoing” the control movements.
Especially for tilting, it happens, that I get the feeling that we are massively out of balance. But when I react massively in this situation, it’s mostly too much.
The trick is: keep cool; trust in your partner -he will also balance- , withstand situations where you get the feeling of getting totally out of balance -they will be short- and restrict your movements (maybe to half of what you think)
In the begin of our training we often put opposite forces on the pedals: one of us forward, the other backward, which was only a waste of power and was very exhausting.

Sharing the mind is not mandatory (I don’t know, if it’s possible), but sensing every small movement and being constantly ready to react is absolutely necessary.
A good body tension is also helpful (that’s why I’m tending to keep arms horizontal when we aren’t yet relaxed)
I think, the front driver is more “dominant”, because he has to decide about the direction, the track. It’s very helpful for the back driver to exactly know, where the ride goes, and the better I describe it to the back rider, the better the curves will be successfull.

Changing the distance between both riders would be a great experience to get deeper into the theory of tandem unicycling. But sadly, ours is not adjustable in length :wink:

… My englisch is not the best, especially in explaining such complex things, I hope you could understand

Lets ride

NOT A TRY , A RIDE ! You have the skill set.

I only saw pictures, but from what I remember, one rider sat right above the wheel, and the other in normal giraffe position. The frame went behind the bottom rider. IIRC the bottom person is just along for the ride, all of the control is done by the top person, it can even be ridden by one person. I will try to find some pictures on Facebook, if you want.

In our expereience, it’s an essential prerequisite to have a smooth surface to ride on. We can do it on a tarred road but have difficulties on a sand road, even when there are only small disturbances.
Maybe, that’s one reason, why Corbin Dunn and partner are struggling so much: https://youtu.be/uQ85tupcdCI
And we need daylight (for optical control of the balance point). Riding in the twilight turned out to be difficult, too.