Survey on global warming for school...Please do this!

timbob1907 · January 28, 2007, 1:20pm

Wow i didnt know this many people were stupid and ignorant… this thread is really depressing

tobbogonist · January 28, 2007, 1:26pm

All these stupid ignorant people!

yet you preach world domination with a sig line bunny?

timbob1907 · January 28, 2007, 3:23pm

Yeah well at least the bunny wont kill us all when hes in power. Hes a nice bunny that wants to keep the planet alive.

headstone · January 28, 2007, 3:35pm

Hmm, seems like the guy who actually studies climate change is extremely concerned, while most of the people that don’t really know anything about it deny it completely.

headstone · January 28, 2007, 3:41pm

You say this very authoritavely… what do you base this on?

timbob1907 · January 28, 2007, 4:30pm

in all seriousness I would like to know who here that believes that were not responsible or its not happening: have ever heard of an inconvenient truth, have any information to back up their claim, or have an IQ higher than 2. if you fulfil all of these requirements please tell me becuase i have never heard of anyone having any proof to say it doesnt exist. If you still think it exists you all are really gullible and are so much sucked into the propaganda of your countries that you cant notice what is happening to the world.

dudewithasock · January 28, 2007, 4:40pm

I’m gonna stick my head back in here real quick (teehee) and say that I’m probably one of those so-called ‘stupid and ignorant people’. Trust me, I’m well aware that global warming is happening and we’re prodding it along to a degree, however my apathy for the situation is much greater than any concern I could muster.

So there.

timbob1907 · January 28, 2007, 5:05pm

yes, yes you are. good job

LiLpunk2012 · January 28, 2007, 5:48pm

Ok people

This is sarah who created this thread…(i logged out and forgot my password, so i made a new username) lol…and i have enough for my survery so PLEASE stop replying!

spazdude222 · January 28, 2007, 6:25pm

Do you believe in global warming?
yes
If yes, what effects will there be?
Ice caps melt, causing the cold water to come towards the equator, whichcauses massive flooding (possibly most of the globe). Because of the high specific heat of water, the Earth would take much longer to heat, causing an ice age.
On a scale from one to five how concerned are you? (one being the least five being the most)
3 (the globe is warming, but it’s not nearly as big a deal as the media makes it sound)
if you knew you could do somthing about global warming would you?
If I knew I could EASILY yes, If it causes me to give up my other goal, such as living a normal life, good job, family etc. then no, screw the earth, my time here is short anyway.

forrestunifreak · January 28, 2007, 6:39pm

1 No

2 N/A

3 1

4 Yes.

steveyo · January 28, 2007, 6:51pm

That “guy” (Podzol) is Blake and she’s a wise woman.

I whole-heartedly share her opinions. The earth is measurably warming, and there is no historic record of a spike in CO2 or temp as extreme as the one we’re seeing now. Further, as Podzol said, if there were some other cause besides the unbelievable amount of crap humans burn, it would be obvious - like a monstrous increase in volcanic activity.

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There are no - zero - peer-reviewed scientific analyses denying humans are the cause of global warming. The only studies which refute global warming is caused by humans are from industry-funded “think-tanks” whose research is not subjected to the review of other scientists.

On the other hand, there have been hundreds of peer-reviewed studies (reviewed by the scientific community and published in respected science journals) in the last ten years showing that the current global warming trends are overwhelmingly likely to have been caused by human activity.

You can listen to and believe scientific facts, or you can listen to and glean opinions from idiots, or people who have an economic stake in promoting your disbelief. It’s up to you.
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podzol · January 28, 2007, 7:32pm

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but you were carrying on so eloquently, Steve.

Hey thanks for the kind words…

Also to the poster about beef. Right-o. It is a major contributor, as are fossil fuel emissions. My kid and I eat chicken as our meat primarily and just yesterday I learned a way to cook tofu that we will both like. We rarely eat beef.

Problem is, it will be a cold day in heck and a warm day on earth when I give up ice cream…

There are lots of ways to contribute, less dairy, less beef, less driving, cool the house down, write your senators, stop listening to Rush L and Jerry F and what ever other biblethumpinghomophobisrepublicanheaduptheiraresenutcasedogooders who think they know more about the climate than a climatologist.

My hypothesis:
There is a significant correlation between homophobic thoughts and beliefs that current climate change is either not anthropogenic or non existent.
Significance at R^2=0.85

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steveyo · January 28, 2007, 7:43pm

OK, please excuse me for my overly harsh words. s/idiots/innocent but ignorant people/
Thank you.

koebwil · January 28, 2007, 8:43pm

Don’t tell me what to do I’ll do what I want.

koebwil · January 28, 2007, 8:45pm

Don’t tell me what to do I’ll do what I want. Sorry for replying twice. No wait, I’m not. BAHAHA

Naomi · January 29, 2007, 1:41am

Deeply depressing yes, but I am surprised that you didn’t expect to find exactly what you are reading. When, after all this time, you find so many people who deny Darwin, then you need to accept that there are still many flat earthers about. Until they actually fall off the edge of global warming themselves, there will always be such people.

Oh and IVAN: if “gullible” really is not in your dictionary, then it is time to replace it. Get one without the pictures this time

Nao

MrBoogiejuice · January 29, 2007, 2:33am

There was an excellent aticle in The Independent last week which says pretty much all there is to say to those who still choose to wilfully deny the evidence in front of them

Johann Hari: The last gasp of the global warming deniers
They are beached on the shores of the wrong side of history, now abandoned even by Bush
Published: 25 January 2007

And so, at last and at least, the words come. The evidence is now so thuddingly inescapable that even George W. Bush - a man who, when pricked, bleeds oil - has acknowledged “the serious challenge of global climate change” in his State of the Union address. It is only a rhetorical concession, another excuse to fiddle as the West Antarctic ice-sheet melts - but it is also a crux moment in the history of global warming denial.

Today, the small, lingering band of global warming “sceptics” are beached on the farthest shores of the wrong side of history. They are alone, abandoned even by Global Warming Bush and the oil industry.

Yet this is not a time to gloat. It is time to appeal to them to join the fight for survival. Deniers, I am sure some of you were sincere. Man-made global warming is such a horrifying event, it is natural to want to scramble for scraps of evidence suggesting it can’t be true. And there are some small misanthropic parts of the environmentalist movement it is perfectly natural to recoil from. The direct action group Earth First! famously made the vile statement that “the Aids epidemic, rather than being a scourge, is a welcome development in the inevitable reduction of human population … If [it] didn’t exist, radical environmentalists would have to invent [it].” Maybe you wrongly thought all environmentalists were like this. Maybe that’s why you were so eager to disprove our core issue.

I know it’s painful to give up on something you have passionately believed. So let’s - for one last time - go through your arguments.

Deniers’ Myth Number One: Scientists are divided on whether man is causing global warming. In 2004, the universally-respected journal Science studied 928 randomly selected scientific papers containing the words “global climate change”. None of them - not one - disagreed with the view that global warming is being caused to a significant degree by burning fossil fuels. As Jim Baker, who was head of one of the leading scientific organisations in the US, explains, “There is a better scientific consensus on this issue than any other, with the possible exception of Newton’s Law of Dynamics.”

Deniers’ Myth Number Two: The current warming of the world is simply part of the planet’s natural cycle. After all, there were no carbon emissions when the last ice age ended - why should the current warming be due to them? There is a sliver of truth in this: natural climate change has not stopped, and it never will. But we have superimposed onto it a great blast of greenhouse gases of our own, with far stronger effect.

To understand this, you only have to grasp some basic 19th-century physics. As Professor Chris Rapley of the British Antarctic Survey explains, “There are natural greenhouse gases in the earth’s atmosphere which trap heat on the planet, keeping the surface temperature 30 degrees warmer than it otherwise would be. Since the start of the industrial revolution, we have released lots more greenhouse gases - around 1,000 billion tonnes of them. This has enhanced the natural greenhouse effect, and trapped more heat - currently 0.6 degrees. The more greenhouse gases we add, the warmer we’ll be. It’s not rocket science.”

Deniers’ Myth Number Three: The current warming in the world is all due to changes in the energy output of the Sun. In 1991, the Danish scientists Knud Lassen and Eigil Friis-Christensen found a correlation between temperature changes on Earth from 1850 onwards and sunspot activity, which usually indicate changes in the intensity of solar radiation. As the sun warmed, we warmed.

Other scientists studied this closely, and found out that they were partly right: up to 40 per cent of the planet’s warming is indeed due to solar activity. But since 1980, sunspot activity has been declining - yet temperatures down here have been soaring to the highest levels ever recorded. So while the Sun can take some of the flak, the world’s scientists agree: the other 60 per cent remains with us.

Deniers’ Myth Number Four: In the 1970s, scientists were warning about “global cooling” and a looming Ice Age. How can we now trust these warnings of global warming? In fact, in the 1970s two - literally two - scientists tentatively suggested that cooling could occur over millennia. To compare that meek, misreported suggestion by two people to the overwhelming scientific consensus from tens of thousands of climatologists is, I am sure you deniers can see now, dishonest.

Denier’s Myth Number Five: Global warming is a religion. People have always had an innate psychological need to believe in a looming apocalypse - this is just the latest version.

Precisely the opposite is the truth. Global warming is based on very close empirical observation of the real world, and deductions based on reason. If its conclusions fall into one particular niche in intellectual history, that doesn’t change the fact they are true. It is you, the deniers clinging to myths, who resemble the faithful. Far from being Galileos, you have been siding with the fossil fuel Vatican.

Last year, there was an extraordinary exchange on the BBC’s Newsnight between the environmentalist George Monbiot and the global warming denier Melanie Phillips. Monbiot pointed out that virtually all the “evidence” Phillips cites stems from people funded by Exxon-Mobil, a Big Oil corporation that has dedicated tens of millions of dollars to promoting denialist myths so they can carry on pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. “Could it be,” Monbiot asked, “that you are an unwitting dupe of Exxon-Mobil?” Phillips replied, “It could be, it could be. I have no idea who funds the people I read and listen to.”

No idea. She had lauded Ross McKittrick, funded by Exxon, for debunking" environmentalist graphs. She had lauded, as invaluable experts, Dr Roy Spencer, Dr Richard Lindzen, the Cato Institute, the Tech Central Science Foundation and the George C. Marshall Institute - every one funded by Exxon. She has not yet recanted.

Deniers, the war is over. You still have time to come in from the cold and join the warming world on which the rest of us live. There is no shame in making an honest mistake. But if you have any respect for evidence and for human survival, you must begin today to redeploy all that energy you have spent furiously claiming that the world’s climatologists are idiots into arguing for a drastic reduction in the world’s carbon emissions. These necessary cuts are still, despite George Bush’s measly admission, a less likely prospect than global ecocidal disaster. Join us as we try to reverse those odds and there may - just - be a chance you could be remembered with something other than contempt.

iridemymuni · January 29, 2007, 2:49am

other planets in our system are also getting hotter, without any human intervention. explain that.

tomtrevor · January 29, 2007, 2:52am

aliens.