# Surly Knard 29x3

**URL:** https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269
**Category:** General
**Created:** [October 15, 2012, 10:57am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269 "2012-10-15T10:57:50Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Feisty](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/feisty/32/3511_2.png) [@Feisty](https://unicyclist.com/u/Feisty)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 10:57am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/1 "2012-10-15T10:57:50Z")

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It is interesting what you can find on the UDC uk blog

[oooooh](http://www.unicycle.uk.com/blog/staff-unicycles-part16%E2%80%B2/)

Looks like it fits a KH29 after all 😃 a bit too tight for the mud around here though so a Hand Dampf on a rabbit hole rim (in December) will have to do 😉

Sorry if this is old news

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### Author: ![MJS](https://unicyclist.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@MJS](https://unicyclist.com/u/MJS)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/2 "2012-10-15T12:54:58Z")

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Looks Awesome! Does anyone know if the frame clearances have changed since that frame was produced (2007?)? I am hoping to pick up one of these to run on my 2012 KH 29 which should be arriving any week now! That tire looks like it has so much cushion!

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### Author: ![UniGeezer](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/unigeezer/32/1199_2.png) [@UniGeezer](https://unicyclist.com/u/UniGeezer)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/3 "2012-10-15T14:05:43Z")

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What’s great about this tire is that it’s a 3.0, which is .7 wider than the 2.3 WTB Stout, and yet it’s almost 300g lighter than the Stout! This is most likely due to it [120 tpi] having a folding bead and a lower tread pattern. I’m assuming it will fit fine on the kh 47mm drilled rim?  
Btw, I checked several online stores and none had any in stock.

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### Author: ![scotthue](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/scotthue/32/1500_2.png) [@scotthue](https://unicyclist.com/u/scotthue)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/4 "2012-10-15T18:14:24Z")

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That’s because it’s not released yet…

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### Author: ![UniGeezer](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/unigeezer/32/1199_2.png) [@UniGeezer](https://unicyclist.com/u/UniGeezer)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/5 "2012-10-15T19:26:06Z")

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It’d be awesome if the Knard was also available in a 26 x 3.0, for my G26er! So far I only see a 26 x 3.8.

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### Author: ![Feisty](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/feisty/32/3511_2.png) [@Feisty](https://unicyclist.com/u/Feisty)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/6 "2012-10-16T06:24:58Z")

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Seems like the 29er Knard and Rabbit Hole rim have been “coming” for bloody ever 😛

I read that they are released in December.

With the mega mud around here I jam up a Hans Dampf in my frame so the Knard is not going to fly so I will just go for the rim

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### Author: ![scotthue](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/scotthue/32/1500_2.png) [@scotthue](https://unicyclist.com/u/scotthue)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/7 "2012-10-17T13:05:10Z")

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I would use an Oregon frame in that case.

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### Author: ![muni123](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/muni123/32/3557_2.png) [@muni123](https://unicyclist.com/u/muni123)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/8 "2012-10-17T23:15:03Z")

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this tire looks sick!

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### Author: ![Nurse\_Ben](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/nurse_ben/32/2123_2.png) [@Nurse\_Ben](https://unicyclist.com/u/Nurse_Ben)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/9 "2012-10-20T15:34:20Z")

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[http://ridingagainstthegrain.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/knard.jpg](http://ridingagainstthegrain.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/knard.jpg)

Hey Terry, it’s a little fatter than what you were asking about, but it’s a 26" 😃

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### Author: ![mtnjeffe](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/mtnjeffe/32/1983_2.png) [@mtnjeffe](https://unicyclist.com/u/mtnjeffe)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2012, 11:04am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/10 "2012-10-24T11:04:30Z")

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It’s here!

Jenson just posted on their site. $90 as expected.

[http://www.jensonusa.com/Bicycle-Tires/Surly-Knard-Tire](http://www.jensonusa.com/Bicycle-Tires/Surly-Knard-Tire)

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### Author: ![knoxuni](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/knoxuni/32/2894_2.png) [@knoxuni](https://unicyclist.com/u/knoxuni)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2012, 11:01am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/11 "2012-12-16T11:01:42Z")

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does anyone have one yet? will it fit in a nimbus drak?

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### Author: ![Nurse\_Ben](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/nurse_ben/32/2123_2.png) [@Nurse\_Ben](https://unicyclist.com/u/Nurse_Ben)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2012, 11:27am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/12 "2012-12-16T11:27:50Z")

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no  
no

there are places where this info is already posted, hint, hint, hint.

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### Author: ![Feisty](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/feisty/32/3511_2.png) [@Feisty](https://unicyclist.com/u/Feisty)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2012, 11:39am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/13 "2012-12-16T11:39:46Z")

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> [@knoxuni](#):
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> does anyone have one yet? will it fit in a nimbus drak?

No and No

😛

Whilst you can squeeze on in a KH it is not really usable unless you ride in the dry and UDC have said there will be a wider Oracle 29er coming to fit it at some point.

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### Author: ![Feisty](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/feisty/32/3511_2.png) [@Feisty](https://unicyclist.com/u/Feisty)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/14 "2012-12-16T11:41:02Z")

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> [@Nurse Ben](#):
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> no  
> no
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> there are places where this info is already posted, hint, hint, hint.

Teach me for watching a film and surfing the forum at the same time, I got a bit time lagged there 😛

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### Author: ![knoxuni](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/knoxuni/32/2894_2.png) [@knoxuni](https://unicyclist.com/u/knoxuni)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2012, 11:51am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/15 "2012-12-16T11:51:34Z")

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Does MR hans dampf fit?

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### Author: ![Nurse\_Ben](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/nurse_ben/32/2123_2.png) [@Nurse\_Ben](https://unicyclist.com/u/Nurse_Ben)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/16 "2012-12-16T20:17:03Z")

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Who you calling MR?

Yeah, the Hans Dampf will fit, just like all the other 29 x 2.4 tires.

Wes, don’t you have homework to do or something 🙄

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### Author: ![knoxuni](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/knoxuni/32/2894_2.png) [@knoxuni](https://unicyclist.com/u/knoxuni)
#### Post date: [December 17, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/18 "2012-12-17T16:41:31Z")

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nope 2 hours and 45 min of study halls 😃

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### Author: ![Nurse\_Ben](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/nurse_ben/32/2123_2.png) [@Nurse\_Ben](https://unicyclist.com/u/Nurse_Ben)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2013, 10:17am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/19 "2013-01-07T10:17:49Z")

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Sadly the Knard 29 x 3 has been delayed AGAIN, current arrival estimate is March.

On a bright note, my 26 x 4 Knard 120 folder is on the way from ProBikeSupply in sunny California 🙂

Review to follow…

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### Author: ![uniShark](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/unishark/32/2592_2.png) [@uniShark](https://unicyclist.com/u/uniShark)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/20 "2013-01-07T14:19:28Z")

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Bummer.  
I’m considering a second wheel build for my 36 frame, using a 29" Knard. Owen has been eyeing my 29er, which gives me an excuse. 😉  
Think I’d have clearance (sideways) issues?

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### Author: ![davidp](https://unicyclist.com/user_avatar/unicyclist.com/davidp/32/2540_2.png) [@davidp](https://unicyclist.com/u/davidp)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/surly-knard-29x3/119269/21 "2013-01-07T14:34:31Z")

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> [@uniShark](#):
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> Bummer.  
> I’m considering a second wheel build for my 36 frame, using a 29" Knard. Owen has been eyeing my 29er, which gives me an excuse. 😉  
> Think I’d have clearance (sideways) issues?

[Surly says](http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/your_rabbit_hole_looks_knardy) the Knard on a 50mm Rabit Hole rim has a width of 75.8mm/77.7mm (casing/tread). I haven’t measured the distance between the legs of my 36" frame to see if it would fit.

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