Sueing spammers

This last weekend a spammer abused TinyURL, which unfourtunately is not
unusual, but this is probably the biggest case of spam yet. I even
received 4 copies of the spam at my various email addresses (at least
that’s what got through my spam filters, probably others were even
rejected). Ironically, the TinyURL pointed to an invalid URL (because it
contained <RANDOM> in it a couple times, but stripping those lead to a
prescription drug website).

The reason for my post is to see if anyone knows how I can track down
this spammer. It was very typical spam, with forged headers, had fake
“from” names in everything, appears to have been sent through zombies,
etc. Other than the prescription drug site, the email mentioned a 1-800
number. I can probably sue this spammer for violating the CAN-SPAM act,
but only if the spammer is in the US. Before wasting my money on an
attorney, I want to find out of this spammer is US based. I went to a
payphone to call the 800 number and it provided no valuable info and
asked people to leave a voicemail message for a callback. Does anyone
know how I can lookup the owner of an 800 number?

I’d love to successfully sue a spammer and post it on the TinyURL
website as a deterrent to other spammers from abusing the service. If
anyone knows of an attorney that may be able to help, please let me know.

  • Gilby

Re: Sueing spammers

Oooh, I hope you do it!!! I did a quick search on Google and found some
decent info. Here’s one site: http://www.sueaspammer.com/

Gilby wrote:
> This last weekend a spammer abused TinyURL, which unfourtunately is not
> unusual, but this is probably the biggest case of spam yet. I even
> received 4 copies of the spam at my various email addresses (at least
> that’s what got through my spam filters, probably others were even
> rejected). Ironically, the TinyURL pointed to an invalid URL (because it
> contained <RANDOM> in it a couple times, but stripping those lead to a
> prescription drug website).
>
> The reason for my post is to see if anyone knows how I can track down
> this spammer. It was very typical spam, with forged headers, had fake
> “from” names in everything, appears to have been sent through zombies,
> etc. Other than the prescription drug site, the email mentioned a 1-800
> number. I can probably sue this spammer for violating the CAN-SPAM act,
> but only if the spammer is in the US. Before wasting my money on an
> attorney, I want to find out of this spammer is US based. I went to a
> payphone to call the 800 number and it provided no valuable info and
> asked people to leave a voicemail message for a callback. Does anyone
> know how I can lookup the owner of an 800 number?
>
> I’d love to successfully sue a spammer and post it on the TinyURL
> website as a deterrent to other spammers from abusing the service. If
> anyone knows of an attorney that may be able to help, please let me know.
>
> - Gilby

Re: Sueing spammers

Gilby wrote:
> I’d love to successfully sue a spammer and post it on the TinyURL
> website as a deterrent to other spammers from abusing the service. If
> anyone knows of an attorney that may be able to help, please let me know.

I’m sure that you could get some recommendations in
news.admin.net-abuse.email (Note that posting in nanae requires a thick
skin. There’s a wide variety of passionately-held opinions, and a lot of
trolls – probably the net’s epicentre for flamewars.)

They have followed alot of spammer-related court cases and long-time
regulars probably have a pretty good idea of who is good at this. There
are lawyers who specialize in the issue.

As far as headers go, the only one you can really trust is the top
Received header – the one added by your own mail server. If you can’t
get any help from whoever owns the machine that passed the message on to
your server (which will probably be the spammer, but not necessarily),
then you need the lawyer to get any further.

Re: Sueing spammers

Did you try putting the 800 number into a few search engines? I know that
reverse directories exist I just don’t know if they have been made available
on the web. If they have not then you can ask for the help of you local
district attorney or local police they have access to reverse phone
directories.

Gary Stein

“Gilby” <mail@gilby.com> wrote in message
news:d8ojc8$qo8$1@server1.darklock.com
> This last weekend a spammer abused TinyURL, which unfourtunately is not
> unusual, but this is probably the biggest case of spam yet. I even
> received 4 copies of the spam at my various email addresses (at least
> that’s what got through my spam filters, probably others were even
> rejected). Ironically, the TinyURL pointed to an invalid URL (because it
> contained <RANDOM> in it a couple times, but stripping those lead to a
> prescription drug website).
>
> The reason for my post is to see if anyone knows how I can track down this
> spammer. It was very typical spam, with forged headers, had fake “from”
> names in everything, appears to have been sent through zombies, etc. Other
> than the prescription drug site, the email mentioned a 1-800 number. I can
> probably sue this spammer for violating the CAN-SPAM act, but only if the
> spammer is in the US. Before wasting my money on an attorney, I want to
> find out of this spammer is US based. I went to a payphone to call the 800
> number and it provided no valuable info and asked people to leave a
> voicemail message for a callback. Does anyone know how I can lookup the
> owner of an 800 number?
>
> I’d love to successfully sue a spammer and post it on the TinyURL website
> as a deterrent to other spammers from abusing the service. If anyone knows
> of an attorney that may be able to help, please let me know.
>
> - Gilby