STRAIGHTEDGE? was: Re: do you smoke? 4 choices (tobacco only)

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— Checkernuts
<Checkernuts.9jqba@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah if you add no sex youve got the hardcore
> straight edge thing down
> dude.
>
>
> I personally just try to stay away from any over the
> counter drug if at
> all possible, and will only take percription drugs
> if I’m told to do so
> by a Dr.
>
> The Caffine thing gets me though. I drink soda
> because it’s convienient
> mostly and I like the taste, I also drink tea,
> because I’ve heard it’s
> good for you 1 and also the taste.
>
> Sendhair
>
> I dont think I have ever heard of Butter and yogurt
> and icecream on that
> list… I have been doing this for a while now and
> it doesnt ring a
> bell. I have heard of no Refined Sugar though, if
> that’s what your
> referring to.
>
> Like everything there are different degrees to take
> everything. Staight
> edge is really a way of life sometimes. And just
> really hate it when
> people say they are straight edge and just dont do
> Illeagal drugs.
>
> CheXXX
>

ok, so finally some sXe unicyclists.

Straightedge means diffrent things to diffrent people,
but universally and tradditionaly it means: no drugs
(including alchol, cigaretts, illeagle drugs) no
PROMISCOUS sex (that is to say, if your in a
relationship, like a REAL relationship its up to you).

Caffiene is something that many 'edgers dissagree on.
its deffinatly an addictive drug, but is it dangerous?
is there good reason to avaoid it?

I perrsonally want to give up caffiene, im trying to.
the problem is that its in most of the stuff i drink,
which is mountain dew. before college, it would have
been no problem to give it up, now its one of our few
food court beverages that i enjoy. im still working on
it though.

butter yogurt and ice cream, i think your thinking of
vegans, not straightedge. By the way, using hardcore
and straightedge like you did may give peopel the
wrong impression that all hardcore kids are 'edge, or
that all hardcore music is. or vica versa (I know that
hardcore is the only good music out there, but not
everyone has seen that light yet)

People call them selves sXe and they smoke and drink?
no way, that actually would piss me off!

So im getting a straightedge tattoo, maybe ill have to
give up caffiene now.

ok, tie this into unicycling, anyone knotice that more
unicyclists are either straightedge or some lesser
degree of the same belief system?

later

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Among my friends I am the only straight edge uincycler. Thats out of a whole 3 other riders and I’m probably the most into it as a sport then just something else to do, or something to juggle on. That will probably change this fall though when I show off my new Trials Uni.

And I dont know about hardcore being the only kind of good music man… Im still into the hardcore scene dont get me wrong, but i have to go with Ska over kicking heads any day.

Finally carefull about the tatoo, I know a few people that got some done and over time they have lost some of the straight edge ways, (mostly they drink now in their old age). If you get one choose the location carefully. (Big X’s on the hands= NO NO, just use a big sharpy before a show:-p)

Chex

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Straight edge

I briefly talked to a guy once who was STRAIGHT edge.
No meat, milk, eggs, coffiee etc.
Also he didn’t wear wool.

Can any of you straightedge people explain the wool thing?

I don’t get it and I did’t get a chance to ask him.

Morten

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Wool just ain’t cool!

It’s itchy and smells like sheep when it gets wet.

OK, so maybe some people and others like L’eau d’mouton.

Straightedge is as Straightedge does. There are laws about impersonating a ram.

Bhhhhaaaaaah!

Grandma! What BIG cranks you have!

(now I’m RAMbling…)

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ok, im replying to this now, sorry it took so long.

yeah, hardcore deffinatly isnt the only kind of good music, sorry. punk and ska are awesome. im going to see goldfinger, allister, and striaghter than pete, on monday, hell yeah punk.

the coffe thing is part of straightedge, thats because it has caffiene in it, some 'edgers avoid caffiene.

the wool, milk, eggs, are vegan. these are two totally diffrent things, dont confuse them, heh heh heh.

i totally realize about the "x"s i would go with them on my hands, but i want a job at some point, a real job. im going with a celtic looking X on my back.

dont worryabout the tat’ “straightedge crew, forever true” yeaqh yeah.

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Uh…not quite.

I don’t know exactly how things are in the straightedge scene right now, but back in my day (as little as four years ago) straightedge meant drug-free and vegan. It sorta goes along with the whole “not putting junk in your body” thing. Makes sense, huh?

-Richard
Vegan, not straightedge. I love beer too much.

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ok, i gotta tell ya, i think that maybe its just where you come from. most people i’ve talked to have never ever made that association, like, ever.

i mean back in the day though, it wasnt a thing like it is now, i mean almost no one was edge. so i guess when people were still kind of starting the sXe movment, it was probably all scattered and diffrent to diffrent people.

sXe is all about doing what you think is right though, so hey, if your vegan and drug free, more power too you.

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Straight edge is a subculture that was headed by intensely sober, hardcore bands such as Minor Threat, Teen Idles, SSD, and Uniform Choice in the early 80s. This genre developed in Washington D.C. and the metropolitan area of New York City. Straight edge not only refers to music, but also refers to its listeners who adopt the straight edge lifestyle in order to better themselves and the world they live in. Since 1980, when the term ‘straight edge’ was coined by Ian MacKaye, the notion of straight edge has been established as a set of values that go against smoking, illicit drugs, and promiscuous sex.

“don’t drink, don’t smoke, don’t fuck.” Minor Threat; Straight Edge

As far as I can tell thats how it started. Minor Threat in 1980. The Veg and Vegan have been added by others since then as well. But now its usually seperated as 2 different things. Some still do find that to be straight edge you cant eat meat or meat products.

“I’m a person just like you, But I’ve got better things to do,”

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I think this is a common problem with the straightedge movement. Its a subculture that further creates its own subcultures.

It is at the point where few can say for sure if they are straightedge or not because others keep throwing in more rules. The further you go into it, the more militant it seems to get.

I don’t drink, I don’t do drugs, and I don’t screw around. I do drink caffeine, which is actually starting to become a problem. I think admitting that its “starting to be” a problem indicates that its BEEN one.

I’m not a vegan or a vegetarian. I hadn’t heard about the wool thing until just now on this forum.

I listened to some HC music in college, but I am a bit too old now to get into it anymore. I still like Snapcase and Kicked in the Head. But the really militant stuff rubs me the wrong way.

I think that there are two basic levels to straightedge. One is simply being aware of yourself and making a moral choice to abstain from things that can potentially hurt and or kill you. You don’t want to be addicted to drugs or acohol or put yourself at risk for STD’s.

The further level is abstaining from all that effects your body and all that promotes the farming and/or slaughter of animals. This is the camp that rejects caffeine, over-the-counter drugs, wool, milk, eggs, meat, products tested on animals, etc. There is no end to what you can reject if you keep looking for things to abstain from. I think Gillette was said to test on animals at one point. Now they own the Patriots’ football stadium. So you can abstain from watching Patriots games if that bothers you. And the ball is made from pig skins, so scrap football all together.

If you take the more extreme forms of straightedge to heart, that is a admirable undertaking. I just don’t have the stomach to be so militant about every facet of life.

Being strong in who you are and in what choices you make is what straightedge is all about. Don’t second guess if what you’re doing is enough. Be firm in who you are. If you don’t want to go to extremes, don’t let others push you there.

Darrell