Basically, a student put hundreds of american flags on the floor in the hallway of the student center to see how many people would step on the flags, and how many would walk around. The american legion is furious, and the campus is sharply divided between those who shout “desecration!” and those who shout “Freedom of speech!”
OMG! I hate it when people take things like this so seriously! Honestly now, what’s going to happen if you step on an american flag . If you burn a flag, what have you burnt, a piece of fabric, or a country? In my eyes all you’ve done is burn a piece of fabric.
I’ll agree to that. The flag represents all the ideals America wants to promote- freedom, hope, independance. But metonymy aside, a flag is a piece of cloth.
Like Pele said, it’s just a piece of fabric that won’t do anything if it’s damaged. Luckily it’s not illegal because that would just be another right stripped away from us…
It’s both, the student exercised freedom of speech by performing a desecration.
If you think flags are just a piece of cloth please do try this at the next Unicon: Put flags from all the countries represented on out on a dirt lot and you go ride your unicycle over them. See if that pisses any one off. If you’re right that they’re just pieces of cloth, no one will mind. If you’re not right, you’re sure to leave an indellible impression…
oh my god that is pathetic! its a piece of cloth, not america itself, and you all walk on america evryday(because you cannot fly lol). it would of been a hell of a laugh to run down the hall, jump on the flag and skid down the hall, just to see what people do:D i would do that with the british flag, they slide well id ride on it too, i dont care, it isnt like in sending a missile to downing street or the houses of parlament is it!
if you did the same thing here people would ignore it and just keep walking over them, why is america so worried about standing on a piece of cloth?
Im sure people would mind. My point was not that people dont mind, but that they shouldnt. If i was asked to, i wouldnt mind burning any flag. Its not that im an evil person, its more of being a realist. The only thing a flag serves purpose for is to act as a symbol to show what nationality something is of. What i mean is how say youtube.ca has a little canadian flag at the top right. Excellent use of a flag. Soon as it gets to doing the morning routine of pledging allegiance to a flag it starts getting way out of hand. Think about it, you are pledging allegiance to a completely inanimate object. Its completely silly. I have not said the pledge of allegiance for over 2 years now, simply because i find there to be no reason in pledging my allegiance to a piece of fabric dangling from a pole.
Well by reading some of those quotes, many people died for that flag. Now I can understand dieing for a country, but for a peice of fabric? Thats just suicide.
i always said suicide was pointless, and did they die for THAT flag, no that was probably from her local shop a couple weeks ago, they died for the country they live in, yet they walk on that. a flag only shows the nationality on the land it represents, like a lable on a product to tell you what it is. a flag is a piece of cloth, its a label to say “this is america”.
America is, as far as I’ve ever seen, the only country that is terribly fussed about its flag. Personally I couldn’t give a damn if you rode over the union flag. There’s a reason you never see the union flag being burnt, because people would just laugh at you for wasting your money. The stunt you’re hypothetically suggesting pulling would offend me, because I knew it was your intention to, but the actual act itself I couldn’t care less. The majority of Britain’s don’t know that the union Jack is the flagstaff, and the union flag is the actual flag. The union flag has a right way up but virtually no-one knows which way it is (it’s only a minor difference). That is quite how little we care.
yeah that pretty much sums up my point, america is the only county (to my knowlege) that actually cares about their flag, its like they worship it and i think its quite stupid really. now correct me if im wrong but was it in the news here in the uk about everyone putting the union flag up outside our homes like the americands do? and theyve also said about pledging allience here too, but i dont think its to the flag, more to the country.
The settlers and the people who fought for independance didn’t die for the flag. They died for their dream of freedom. That’s why they wrote the constitution, to allow freedom for everyone.
Now, America is being abused by multimilion corporations and crooked politicians and the constitution is being used to their advantage too often. They move the people away from that dream of freedom that the settlers and the founding fathers had. I think that’s why some people choose to burn the flag.
It would be interesting to know how many of the people getting upset about people stepping on the flag thought that “the Muslims” were being irrational heathen savages when they got very upset about the Mohammed cartoons a couple of years ago.
after years and years of witnessing flag-burnings for every cause you can dream of. I am surprised some businessman didn’t came with the idea of providing flags for that very purpose!
“our flags burn longer!”
“may not harm our customer”!
“burns without danger to the environment” …
you could even have a “patriot” american businessman providing “false” true flags : the american flag is so complex that you can counterfeit it with a non standard number of stripes or stars!!! -and “customers” would not notice!-
Oops: I forgot to mention the already existing business of having toilet paper emblasoned with a flag!
Just to see what people do? Just to see what people do? Man, here if you did that you would get a redneck fist in your face faster than you can say “i pledge allegiance, to the flag”, and that’s if your lucky. And if you sued them, you would probably loes. Man, people can be so dunce sometimes!
I think people get a little too upset about flag stepping-onage and burnage. I can see where a vetran might take it the wrong way but in my opinion, a burning flag, is a symbol of America not living up to the ideals that it pretends to support.