standstill?

Just curious. Is it physically or even actually* possible to do a standstill on
a unicycle for any prolonged period of time, i.e. without hopping or making half
(or smaller) revolutions? Maybe just turning at the spot similar to what is done
with the front wheel of a bicycle during a “sur-place”?

Klaas Bil

  • Or should that be “actually or even physically” :slight_smile:

    “To trigger/fool/saturate/overload Echelon, the following has been picked
    automagically from a database:” “killed, Sudan, Anthrax”

Re: standstill?

Greetings

In message “standstill?”, Klaas Bil wrote…
>Just curious. Is it physically or even actually* possible to do a standstill
>on a unicycle for any prolonged period of time, i.e. without hopping or making
>half (or smaller) revolutions? Maybe just turning at the spot similar to what
>is done with the front wheel of a bicycle during a “sur-place”?

It’s possible and and it can be done for at least longer than 30 seconds, to my
knowledge. Normally you are allowed to move you outsretched arms and upper body,
and it is considered a standstill as long as the wheel doesn’t move.

By turning on the spot you probably mean twisting – that’s easy to do and does
not count as a standstill.

Stay on top, Jack Halpern, IUF Vice President Website: http://www.kanji.org

Re: standstill?

My longest is about 10 seconds. It feels really cool if you come out of a spin
or something , and just happen to be in that center balance point . Then , like
Jack H said you need to use your upper body with slight movements to stay
there. -chris

“Klaas Bil” <klaasbil_remove_the_spamkiller_@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:3ace295f.1228989@newszilla.xs4all.nl
> Just curious. Is it physically or even actually* possible to do a standstill
> on a unicycle for any prolonged period of time, i.e. without hopping or making
> half (or smaller) revolutions? Maybe just turning at the spot similar to what
> is done with the front wheel of a bicycle during a “sur-place”?
>
> Klaas Bil
>
> * Or should that be “actually or even physically” :slight_smile:
> –
> "To trigger/fool/saturate/overload Echelon, the following has been picked
automagically from a database:"
> “killed, Sudan, Anthrax”

Re: standstill?

> >Just curious. Is it physically or even actually* possible to do a standstill
> >on a unicycle for any prolonged period of time, i.e. without hopping or
> >making half (or smaller) revolutions? Maybe just turning at the spot similar
> >to what is done with the front wheel of a bicycle during a “sur-place”?
>
>It’s possible and and it can be done for at least longer than 30 seconds, to my
>knowledge. Normally you are allowed to move you outsretched arms and upper
>body, and it is considered a standstill as long as the wheel doesn’t move.
>

If you want a really impressive sight you need to see the famous Julien Monney
Coasting Stillstand. That’s a stillstand with no part of the body touching the
pedals, crank, wheel or tyre. I’ve seen him do this more than once for close to
30 secs if not a bit longer and I still barely believe it.

If you can imagine it. It’s been done. If you can’t imagine it. It’s been done
by Julien.

Jon

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RE: standstill?

> Many years ago I saw Floyed Crandal when he came to Japan do it for 30 seconds
> or so, o top of barrel! I wonder of there is a record for this.

I have seen Jack’s video of this. Very cool.

Please note: According to IUF Standard Skill rules, the trick being discussed is
called “Stillstand”. This comes from translations of the German rules for
Artistic Bicycling. So we call them stillstands.

> Also, I suggest that we think of a term to distinguish between:
>
> 1. A standstill with the wheel fixed and pedals fixed and the upper body
> moving.

The problem is, it is hard to judge, or quantify the amount of pedal and tire
movement allowed for it to qualify as a stillstand. Same as the difficulty in
judging the slow races we do. Just how much wheel “bobble” is allowed?

I remember in the mid 1980’s when Len Salverda made an electronic tool for
measuring wheel movement. You stuck it to the back of your fork with a magnet,
and it detected when your wheel went more than 1/8" or so backward. Problem was,
nobody could ride slowly without setting off the beep this box would make.
Even riding at close to a walking pace you could still set it off.

In other words, the wheel is always making slight rearward motions, especially
when doing a stillstand. Even Floyd on the barrel. So the first question for
establishing records has to be, how much is allowed?

Taking a stab at it, I’d say the feet can’t move up or down more than a few
centimeters. But this becomes a factor of wheel size, so angle would be a
more fair measure, though harder to judge. I would allow any amount of upper
body movement.

> 2. A standstill with the wheel fixed and pedals fixed and the upper NOT
> moving, including the arms. That is, everything is at a complete standstill
> – except your eyelashes and heart :slight_smile:

I don’t know if that is sustainable beyond the few seconds you mentioned. But
I’m sure good “stillstanders” could compete at such an event as this, if judging
for the first event ever gets figured out…

Stay on top, John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone jfoss@unicycling.com www.unicycling.com

“Dad, I’m hypo-icecreamic.” – Woody Hooten, at the end of a long MUni ride
(Woody’s mom is a doctor, and this sounds like something his family developed on
long car rides when the kids were young)

Re: standstill?

Greetings

In message “Re: standstill?”, Chris Carey wrote…
>My longest is about 10 seconds. It feels really cool if you come out of a spin
>or something , and just happen to be in that center balance point . Then ,
>like Jack H said you need to use your upper body with slight movements to stay
>there. -chris

Many years ago I saw Floyed Crandal when he came to Japan do it for 30 seconds
or so, o top of barrel! I wonder of there is a record for this.

Also, I suggest that we think of a term to distinguish between:

  1. A standstill with the wheel fixed and pedals fixed and the upper body moving.

  2. A standstill with the wheel fixed and pedals fixed and the upper NOT moving,
    including the arms. That is, everything is at a complete standstill – except
    your eyelashes and heart :slight_smile:

I sometime get into (2) “by accident” and stay there for a couple of seconds.

Regards, Jack Halpern President, The CJK Dictionary Institute, Inc.
http://www.cjk.org Phone: +81-48e$B!]e(B473e$B!]e(B3508

Re: standstill?

In message “Re: standstill?”,

>
>If you want a really impressive sight you need to see the famous Julien Monney
>Coasting Stillstand. That’s a stillstand with no part of the body touching the
>pedals, crank, wheel or tyre. I’ve seen him do this more than once for close
>to 30 secs if not a bit longer and I still barely believe it.

That’s incredible, actually sounds impossible. Does Julien use upper body or arm
movements when he does that? So we now need terms for four kinds os standstills.

  1. With upper body motion, feet on pedals
  2. Without upper body motion, feet on pedals
  3. With upper body motion, feet off pedals
  4. Without upper body motion, feet off pedals

Perhaps:

  1. Standard standstill
  2. Absolute standstill
  3. Standard coasting standstill
  4. Absolute coasting standstill

I k oiw it doesn’t sound too cool but it’s a beginning. I suggest we coin and
standardize these terms.

>If you can imagine it. It’s been done. If you can’t imagine it. It’s been done
>by Julien.
>

Regards, Jack Halpern President, The CJK Dictionary Institute, Inc.
http://www.cjk.org Phone: +81-48e$B!]e(B473e$B!]e(B3508

Re: standstill?

Jack Halpern wrote

>That’s incredible, actually sounds impossible. Does Julien use upper body or
>arm movements when he does that?

He uses some arm and upper body movements and also I think he said he uses some
sideways knee movements but his feet remain static on the crown of the forks

Personally I think he also uses an anti-gravity belt!!

Jon

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SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT: World Games Unicycle Convention in Japan

Hi All,

Here is an updated announcement for the THE 6TH WORLD GAMES UNICYCLE CONVENTION,
to be held in Akita Japan on August 25 and 26. The World Games resemble the
Olympic Games in that the world’s top athletes compete, but differs in several
ways (see bottom of this message.)

This unicycle convention event is not at all like a Unicon and no major
preparations need to be made by overseas participants. Already some world-class
unicyclists like Javier Ruiz and Julien Money have decided to join us.

This event is basically for demonstration purposes, with the Japan Unicycle
Association and IUF Japan acting as the main organizers. I believe it is an
important event in the history of the sport of unicycling, since it is a first,
official step in the direction of achieving one of our ultimate goals –
Olympic status.

Below is the revised announcement. See the bottom of this announcement for
background information on the World Games and how and why unicycling fits into
the picture.

I am looking forward to have you join us here.

Stay on top, Jack Halpern, IUF Vice President Website: http://www.kanji.org/

=======================================================

NAME OF EVENT

    THE 6TH WORLD GAMES UNICYCLE CONVENTION (WGUC) August 25-26, 2001,
    Akita, Japan held as part of the The 6th World Games (official name)
    (WG2000) The World Games 2001 Akita (popular name)

BRIEF OUTLINE OF WORLD GAMES

DATES: August 25 (Saturday) and August 26 (Sunday) 2001

PLACE: Akita City, Yuwa Town, Tenno Town, Ogata Village, Yokote City, Rokugo
Town, Honjo City, Iwaki Town, all in Akita Prefecture

SPORTS DISCIPLINES: Approximately 30 (26 official sports and 4 demonstration
sports) Participants: Over 3,000 people representing more than 50 countries
and regions

TOTAL COST: Approximately 1.5 billion yen

DATES for WGUC

ARTISTIC: August 25, 2001 RACING: August 26, 2001

PLACE:

The World Games will be held in various locations in Akita Prefecture,
northern Japan. The Unicycle Convention will be held in Akita City at:

 1. Racing: Akita Prefectural Park Stadium
 2. Artistic: Akita Prefectural Gymnasium

For details on Akita City, in English, see:
<a href="http://www.city.akita.akita.jp/en/default.htm">http://www.city.akita.akita.jp/en/default.htm</a>

ORGANIZERS of WG2001:

Japan World Games Association Organizing Committee for the World Games 2001
Akita Many other cooperating organizations and sponsors. For details see:

ORGANIZERS of WGUC Main Organizers:
3. Japan Unicycle Assocication, Inc.
4. Akita Unicycle Association
5. IUF Japan Cooperating Organizations:
6. Japanese Ministry of Education ?
7. Akita Prefecture Education Committee ?
8. Akita City Education Committee ?
9. Sasagawa Sports Foundation

SPONSORS For WGUC Michinoku Coca Cola Bottling Co., Inc. For WG2001 See
http://www.wg2001.or.jp/ (Japanese)

PARTICIPANTS

10. In the World Games: Over 3000 from 50 countries
11. Japanese participants in the Unicycle Convention: about 500
12. Overseas participants in the Unicycle Convention: unknown

WEBSITES:

    World Games English Website: <a href="http://www.wg2001.or.jp/engimg/ea0000.htm">http://www.wg2001.or.jp/engimg/ea0000.htm</a>
    Japan World Games Association: <a href="http://www.ssf.or.jp/jwga/">http://www.ssf.or.jp/jwga/</a> Japan
    Olyumppics Committee <a href="http://www.joc.or.jp/eng/index.html">http://www.joc.or.jp/eng/index.html</a> Information on
    Akita Prefecture <a href="http://www.pref.akita.jp/e/">http://www.pref.akita.jp/e/</a> Useful infornmatoin on
    Olympic support <a href="http://www.wg2001.or.jp/engimg/ea1000.htm#1000">http://www.wg2001.or.jp/engimg/ea1000.htm#1000</a>

DATES:

August 25, 2001 August 26, 2001

BACKED BY:

* The Japanese Ministry of Education
* The Japanese Ministry of Education

PARTICIPATION FEES

Competitors: 500 yen Spectators: free of charge

SCHEDULE

August 25, 2001 (Saturday): Artistic Unicycling Events Place Akita
Prefectural Gymnasium Events:
        1. Pairs
        2. Group Time: 9:30am to 5:00pm

August 26, 2001 (Sunday): Unicycle Racing Place: Akita Prefectural Park
Stadium Events:
        3. 100 meters
        4. One-foot
        5. Walk the wheel
    6. Gliding
    7. Obstacle course

     Wheel size Crank length

      16 in. 89 mm(3.5 in.) 20 in. 102 mm(4 in.) 24 in. 125 mm(5 in.) 24
      in. unlimited

    Time: 9:30am to 5:00pm

AWARDS:

The awards will be sponsored by:
8. The Sasagawa Sports Foundation Cup
9. Coca Cola Cup
10. Others

ACCOMMODATIONS:

Participants in the WGUC will stay at the Akita Prefectural Traning Center
located in the Park Stadium where the racing events take place, or at the
students dormitory of Akita Branch of (surprise!) the Minnesota State University
located at Yuuwacho in Akita Prefecture.

The cost per night is 5800 Japanese yen (about $50), including tax, breakfast
and dinner.

CONTACT INFORMATION

For more information and to apply, contact:

IUF Japan c/o Jack Halpern, CEO & President The CJK Dictionary Institute,
Inc. (CJKI) Komine Building (3rd & 4th Floor) 34-14, 2-chome, Tohoku,
Niiza-shi Saitama 352-0001 JAPAN

Office Phone: 048e$B!]e(B473e$B!]e(B3508 FAX : 048e$B!]e(B486e$B!]e(B5032
Home Phone: 042e$B!]e(B587e$B!]e(B3318 FAX : 042e$B!]e(B587e$B!]e(B2802
E-mail: jack@kanji.org WWW : <a href="http://www.kanji.org/">http://www.kanji.org/</a>

IUF Japan us handling the registration of foreign participants and teams.
Be sure to send me email if you plan to come. There will soon be a
registration form at:

    <a href="http://www.kanji.org/kanji/jack/unicycle/worlgam/regform.doc">http://www.kanji.org/kanji/jack/unicycle/worlgam/regform.doc</a>

You can also contact Yuichiro Kato, one of the main driving forces behind
the International Committee of the JUA, at: unikato@xc4.so-net.ne.jp

The main organizers of the World Games are:

International World Games Association (IWGA Headquarters) Ekeby House
Luiksestraat 23, 2587 AL the Hague The Netherlands TEL.31-70-3512774
FAX.31-70-3509911

The Akita World Games Organizing Commitee e$B!Je(BAOCe$B!Ke(B

TEL.018-865-2001 FAX.018-865-2002 <a href="http://www.wg2001.or.jp/">http://www.wg2001.or.jp</a>

BACKGROUND OF WORLD GAMES

The World Games is an International multi-sports event organized by the
International World Games Association (IWGA), taking place every four years in
the year following the summer of the Olympic Games. In addition to competition
programs in sports disciplines recognized by the IWGA, the World Games consists
of a variety of social and cultural events such as concerts, exhibitions and
demonstration sports.

IWGA has close ties with the International Olympic Committee (IOC) and accepts
the principles of the Olympic Games. In fact, IWGA and IOC both have equal
status under the General Association of International Sports Federations
(GAISF), which the World Games authorities explained to me serves as the roof
organization.

The World Games resemble the Olympic Games in that the world’s top athletes
compete, but they differ in the following ways:

* The participants are not national representatives of their countries.
* Athletes are selected by international federations for each sport.
* Sport disciplines usually march together at the opening ceremony.
* Established facilities are generally used; that is, the organizer is not
  required to establish new facilities.

THE WORLD GAMES AND UNICYCLING

A short time before Unicon X, Mr. Ogura, the head of the Japan Team to Unicon X,
was approached by the Organizing Committee of the World Games and they discussed
the possibility of holding some kind of unicycling event there. Mr. Ogura asked
me to take over, and I started negotiating with the organizers. At Unicon X I
made a brief announcement and distributed some materials.

After Unicon X I continued the negotiation but it was soon apparent that IUF
Japan, without outside help, does not have the financial and other resources to
organize such an event. In January 2001, a major change occurred in the JUA: a
change of policy to cooperate with the IUF and to become part of the
international unicycling community. That is, an abandonment of a long-years
policy of isolation.

This was precipitated by pressure from Unicon X participants, led by Yuichiro
Kato, myself, and several others, for more active participation in international
events. Some UX participants wanted to establish an independent organization,
called the Japan International Unicycling Association (JIUA), but in January a
crisis was averted and the International Committee of the Japan Unicycle
Association (JUA-IC) was established, with Masanori Wakae as the chairman and I
as chief consultant (I deliberately turned down an offer to be chairman since I
want this organization to be run by the Japanese).

To make a long story short, the JUA has offered full cooperation in organizing a
unicycling event at the World Games, and after much negotiations (in which I
participated) we were rewarded by great success: that is, not only would we hold
a demonstration, but a full-scale unicycle convention at the time and place of
the World Games.

The World Games have three kinds of sports events:

 1. Official events
 2. Demonstration events
 3. Sanctioned events (my translation of the Japanese)

For a list of official and demonstration events, see
<a href="http://www.wg2001.or.jp/engimg/ea9000.htm">http://www.wg2001.or.jp/engimg/ea9000.htm</a> (more website links below).

We fall in the third category, the weakest of the three. This participation is a
first step towards participating as a demonstration event in the The 7th World
Games to be held in Germany in 2005, and as an official event in The 8th World
Games, though from my talk with the organizers it is possible that by that time
we may qualify for some kind of participation in the Olympic Games.

Regards, Jack Halpern President, The CJK Dictionary Institute, Inc.
http://www.cjk.org Phone: +81-48e$B!]e(B473e$B!]e(B3508

I saw Julien Monney “coast stillstand” for more than 20 seconds in China -
no pedal or wheel movement is possible there so he did have to move his
arms and knees! Leo White