spokes

x1psh1x · March 17, 2006, 3:48pm

is it better to have 36 or 48 spokes?

lleberg · March 17, 2006, 4:01pm

Personally i don’t think it makes much difference!
12 spokes+mipples weights about nothing.

Sure a 48 spoking is “stronger”…

But to tell you the truth, i haven’t sen any muni/trial wheels pop because of a badly built wheel, it has either been the (early2005model) kh rim sidewall that popped, or in some extrema cases some splined cranks been bent or snapped.

All unis i have bought have had some really sloppy spoke tension out of the box… And that’s far more dangerus than having a few spokes more or not.

I’ld go for 36h because of lower weight, a nicer looking wheel, and a not as hard wheel to true and tension!
36h on a 387mm rim is still a LOT!

trials_uni · March 17, 2006, 4:05pm

im gonna say that 48 is stronger just for the fact that there will be more equal force comming from the rim into the hub with more spokes…i could be wrong but thats what i think. alot of trials uni rims are just 36 though…same with hubs so my guess is that 36 is just fine.

x1psh1x · March 17, 2006, 4:09pm

hmmm, well what r the differences between a torker dx and a kris holms that makes one so much more money

trials_uni · March 17, 2006, 4:12pm

the hub…the frame, the seat, the name.

the kh hub is 36 spline(super strong) while the torker is only 8 or 10(still quite strong)
the torker frame is quite combersome and made of steel the kh is very light aluminum
the torker seat is a cheap copy of the kh
the kh name is best known in the sport…its only natural that his stuff cost a bit more.

x1psh1x · March 17, 2006, 4:16pm

if the seat is a cheap copy, than how come it costs more than the kris holm seat

trials_uni · March 17, 2006, 4:17pm

it doesnt

[EDIT] ok the permanant cover kh seat is more but the one that comes onm the kh uni is the fusion one whcih is 54.00

x1psh1x · March 17, 2006, 4:19pm

well it depends on which one, cause theres 2 ones cheaper

trials_uni · March 17, 2006, 4:21pm

^ check edited post.

x1psh1x · March 17, 2006, 4:22pm

haha oh, well im a dumb ass, so ya. but that sounds like some good quality info, but im still getting the torker cause im poor

trials_uni · March 17, 2006, 4:25pm

the torker is a very respectable uni…theyre acctually very strong. you will enjoy it.

lleberg · March 17, 2006, 4:50pm

What is with this fairytale of more splines the more strength?
No splined cranksets will break any splines, it isn’t a weak spot as on a square tapper hub!
It is the cranks strengt in itself that keeps it from bending, not the splines!

trials_uni · March 17, 2006, 4:51pm

well with more splines theres less torque on the hub

lleberg · March 17, 2006, 4:58pm

Well, no.
It will be the exact the same amount of tourqe.
It will be devided over a greater surfice though (probably, the fever splines the bigger and deeper they are), but the hub will still suffer from the same amount of tourqe.
I hawe never heard of anyone stripping theri splines what so ever, i cant se why it’s that important.
Cranks bends or snaps a hub can be twisted… but that has to do with the strength of the axle and not the splines!

filo · March 17, 2006, 5:45pm

i dont think that hub spline really matter i run either of the i think spokes dont matter either you gota run rims with eyelets for the spokes with out a dought to stop pullin the nipple through ya rim cause that really hurts…

lleberg · March 17, 2006, 5:48pm

LOTS of rims are without eyelets. No danger there…