Shoes and pedals

Salut,

this weekend, I removed the chains from my 24" (dear, the tires and the rim
looked quite bad), changed my tire (knobby BMX tire) and had a ride into the
woods. Well, I read Sarah Miller’s “Muddy Face plant”-post this morning, and I
fortunatelly only had some elbow and knee plants, but always when it was most
muddy. My wheel gets stuck and my shoes just slip on the pedals. Once the soles
are wet, it becomes worse. I also don’t like riding downhill, with these
slippery shoes. So my question:

  • What kind of pedals are you using? I’m realy thinking about bear claw pedals.
    I know what they can do to your legs, but I also think about protection like
    football (soccer) players use it.
  • What kind of shoes do you use? If you don’t use special pedals, how do you
    prevent them from slipping all the time?

I hope to get this topic cleared until BMW. I finally decided to go to. Just
have to book my flight and get some more informations. BTW, I like to have a
t-shirt :slight_smile:

lars


Lars Burgstahler Institute of Communication Networks and Computer Engineering
University of Stuttgart, Pfaffenwaldring 47, 70569 Stuttgart, Germany Tel: (+49)
711 685 7966 Fax: (+49) 711 685 7983 E-Mail: burgstahler@ind.uni-stuttgart.de

When was the last time you were flabbergasted? CIRCOMIQUE

Re: Shoes and pedals

I like the BMX platform style pedals. The bigger the platform the better.
Standard platform pedals look like the pedals on this page:
http://www.sunrims.com/Products/componentbmx.html You can get similar pedals
with either rounded cast pins or sharp replaceable pins. The pedals that I’m
currently using are the Primo Super Tenderizor’s at:
http://www.primo-usa.com/bike/pedals.html They have a very big platform and
grippy replaceable pins. My feet have not slipped off these pedals even with wet
and muddy shoes.

The advantage to the larger platform is that the pedals are less likely to
“roll” under your foot. When your foot rolls off a pedal the pedal is going to
take some big bites out of the back of your calf <ouch!>. If you have sharp
grippy pedals rolling a pedal can cause serious cuts on your leg. <ouch!> I have
noticed that the standard style platform pedals (like the Sun Ringle pedals
above) have more of a tendency to roll if you are not careful. The big Primo
pedals are much less likely to roll under your foot.

For shoes I like the flat soled shoes that are popular with the BMX freestylers.
Something with a gum rubber sole will grip very well to a platform pedal. The
flat sole also means that you are less likely to roll a pedal. Look for
something with a stiff sole. Boots with a waffle-stomper sole are going to be
more likely to roll a pedal.

BMX bike shops also carry neoprene shin guards that also cover the back of the
calf. These guards will protect your calf and shins from getting sliced up by
the pedals. They are like soccer guards but made of neoprene. But they are very
uncomfortable to wear once your legs start sweating.

Cheers, john_childs@hotmail.com

>From: Lars Burgstahler <burgstah@ind.uni-stuttgart.de> Reply-To: Lars
>Burgstahler <burgstah@ind.uni-stuttgart.de> To: unicycling@winternet.com
>Subject: Shoes and pedals Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:16:54 +0100
>
>Salut,
>
>this weekend, I removed the chains from my 24" (dear, the tires and the rim
>looked quite bad), changed my tire (knobby BMX tire) and had a ride into the
>woods. Well, I read Sarah Miller’s “Muddy Face plant”-post
this
>morning, and I fortunatelly only had some elbow and knee plants, but always
>when it was most muddy. My wheel gets stuck and my shoes just slip on the
>pedals. Once the soles are wet, it becomes worse. I also don’t like riding
>downhill, with these slippery shoes. So my question:
>- What kind of pedals are you using? I’m realy thinking about bear claw pedals.
> I know what they can do to your legs, but I also think about protection like
> football (soccer) players use it.
>- What kind of shoes do you use? If you don’t use special pedals, how
do
>you prevent them from slipping all the time?
>
>I hope to get this topic cleared until BMW. I finally decided to go to. Just
>have to book my flight and get some more informations. BTW, I like to have a
>t-shirt :slight_smile:
>
>lars
>
>–
>Lars Burgstahler Institute of Communication Networks and Computer Engineering
>University of Stuttgart, Pfaffenwaldring 47, 70569 Stuttgart, Germany Tel:
>(+49) 711 685 7966 Fax: (+49) 711 685 7983 E-Mail:
>burgstahler@ind.uni-stuttgart.de
>
>When was the last time you were flabbergasted? CIRCOMIQUE

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Re: Shoes and pedals

Hallo Lars! Jetzt reden 2 Deutsche auf Englisch… na egal… :slight_smile:

Lars Burgstahler schrieb in Nachricht <36ECD006.1A00@ind.uni-stuttgart.de>…
>this weekend, I removed the chains from my 24" (dear, the tires and the rim
>looked quite bad),

How bad is it? Will you need a new tire? I was thinking about that with the
chain too, but I wasn’t sure how much it would damage the Uni.

[…]
>My wheel gets stuck and my shoes just slip on the pedals. Once the soles are
>wet, it becomes worse. I also don’t like riding downhill, with these slippery
>shoes. So my question:
>- What kind of pedals are you using? I’m realy thinking about bear claw pedals.
> I know what they can do to your legs, but I also think about protection like
> football (soccer) players use it.

I use normal rubber/plastic pedals. I was thinking about bear claws too, but I
think they are too dangerous. And I don’t want to wear that protection when it
gets warm outside.

>- What kind of shoes do you use? If you don’t use special pedals, how
do
>you prevent them from slipping all the time?

I wear a pair of old trainers. When it’s raining i sometimes carry an old towel
with me, which I use to clean the pedals and soles of my shoes from the dirt and
wetness. This helps quite well.

>I hope to get this topic cleared until BMW. I finally decided to go to.

Tell us about it, when you get back!

Mach’s gut, Martin (Dresden) «

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you get what I’m sayin…but that’s what I’m sayin.” (Rodney Blackwell in
le.discuss)

Re: Shoes and pedals

Lars Burgstahler wrote:

> - What kind of pedals are you using? I’m realy thinking about bear claw
> pedals. I know what they can do to your legs, but I also think about
> protection like football (soccer) players use it.

I have used bear trap pedals, plastic, carbon fibe and aluminium BMX pedals off
road. My favourite are large platform aluminium pedals (mine are made by Zoom, I
think, although there are loads of different makes), but they do have steel
inserts: these make a massive difference. The pedals with aluminium studs just
do not give the required grip in mud and wet. I generally do not loose my
footing even in the worst conditions now.

> - What kind of shoes do you use? If you don’t use special pedals, how do you
> prevent them from slipping all the time?

I wear a pair of full size CAT boots, complete with steel toe caps and steel
inner sole. I find they give great grip, good support and protection for the
feet and I think the rigid sole actually helps with the grip as well. The extra
weight does not slow me down at all.

> I hope to get this topic cleared until BMW. I finally decided to go to. Just
> have to book my flight and get some more informations. BTW, I like to have a
> t-shirt :slight_smile:

:slight_smile: brilliant, see you there… it should be a really good weekend
I am really looking forward to it myself.

Cheers

Roger

Re: Shoes and pedals

>> >My wheel gets stuck and my shoes just slip on the pedals. Once the soles are
>> >wet, it becomes worse. I also don’t like riding downhill, with these
>> >slippery shoes. So my question:
>> >- What kind of pedals are you using? I’m realy thinking about bear claw
>> > pedals. I know what they can do to your legs, but I also think about
>> > protection like football (soccer) players use it.
>>

BMX pedals come a variety of more and less vicious styles. Bearclaw types tend
to tear up your shoes and the spiked metal rim on them tends to break after lots
of wipeouts. However, they do get tamer as the metal spikes bend over time. I’ve
found that the trapezoidally shaped, solid metal BMX pedals with small carbon
steel studs in them provide an appropriate level of grippability: lots of grip
but your feet aren’t so stuck to them that you can’t easily your foot position
on the pedal. They also last really well. Soft soled hiking shoes with treaded
rockclimbing shoe rubber on the bottom (“five-tennies”) provide great grip.

-Kris.


Kris Holm, B.Sc. Geologist, Forestry Group, EBA Engineering Consultants Ltd.
Suite 550, Sun Life Plaza, 1100 Melville Street, Vancouver, B.C. V6E 4A6
Tel:(604) 685-0275 Fax:(604) 684-6241 Email: kholm@eba.ca

Re: Shoes and pedals

Martin Roell wrote:
>
> Hallo Lars! Jetzt reden 2 Deutsche auf Englisch… na egal… :slight_smile:
>
> Lars Burgstahler schrieb in Nachricht <36ECD006.1A00@ind.uni-stuttgart.de>…
> >this weekend, I removed the chains from my 24" (dear, the tires and the rim
> >looked quite bad),
>
> How bad is it? Will you need a new tire? I was thinking about that with the
> chain too, but I wasn’t sure how much it would damage the Uni.

Well, the tire is really not useable anymore. It has deep cuts in its sides. I
think this happens because of the friction between the chain and the tire. The
chains sat very tight, but nevertheless, as it is not a rope, you can’t fix it
completely thight. So it will always move a little bit as you ride. For me, it
doesn’t matter, since it was an old tire. Worse is the state of the chain. As I
rode on half snow, half clean roads, the later really destroyed my chain.
Normally the chain’s elements have a diameter fo about 2-3mm, but at some
points, they have nearly gone. This is due to the use of salt on the streets.
Well, a new chain is about 10,-DM so I won’t cry. Nevertheless, riding in winter
is so much fun, I will do this again next year (as I did the year before) and if
this means buying a new tire and a new chain, so be it.

lars


Lars Burgstahler Institute of Communication Networks and Computer Engineering
University of Stuttgart, Pfaffenwaldring 47, 70569 Stuttgart, Germany Tel: (+49)
711 685 7966 Fax: (+49) 711 685 7983 E-Mail: burgstahler@ind.uni-stuttgart.de

When was the last time you were flabbergasted? CIRCOMIQUE

Re: Shoes and pedals

> Hallo Lars! Jetzt reden 2 Deutsche auf Englisch… na egal… :slight_smile:

Hier ist der dritte…

> […]
> >My wheel gets stuck and my shoes just slip on the pedals. Once the soles are
> >wet, it becomes worse. I also don’t like riding downhill, with these slippery
> >shoes. So my question:
> >- What kind of pedals are you using? I’m realy thinking about bear claw
> > pedals. I know what they can do to your legs, but I also think about
> > protection like football (soccer) players use it.
>
> I use normal rubber/plastic pedals. I was thinking about bear claws too, but I
> think they are too dangerous. And I don’t want to wear that protection when it
> gets warm outside.

I’m using Miyata racing pedals. Last days I heard that bear claws wouldn’t be
dangerous, because you don’t slip off them.

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