screen res...

whats ‘the’ standard res to design for now? 800600? 1024768? i was
thinking about making the site conform to the window size, but id like to
get the layout first before i worry about that…


Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com

You can always use javascript to detect the width of ur customers browers,
and store that, so that u can view the statistics, and then redesign for
the most popular screen res.

I think its still 800x600 tho to go for, for now, kos thats in the middle
of the ones which are used most.

Matt

Earn money for surfing http://www.earn4surf.co.uk/

“Tony Ranieri” <woo_boy@puckoff.com> wrote in message
news:9gs7ko$dm5$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
> whats ‘the’ standard res to design for now? 800600? 1024768? i was
> thinking about making the site conform to the window size, but id
like
> to get the layout first before i worry about that…
>
> –
> Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com
>

well yeah, any good stat program can spit that out, but i have been
running any sites or stats for a while… im working on 800*600 right now,
seems small…


Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com

“Matt Galloway” <news@mattgonline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9gsa53$ea0$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
> You can always use javascript to detect the width of ur customers
> browers, and store that, so that u can view the statistics, and then
> redesign for
the
> most popular screen res.
>
> I think its still 800x600 tho to go for, for now, kos thats in
> the middle
of
> the ones which are used most.
>
> Matt
>
> –

> Earn money for surfing http://www.earn4surf.co.uk/

> “Tony Ranieri” <woo_boy@puckoff.com> wrote in message
> news:9gs7ko$dm5$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
> > whats ‘the’ standard res to design for now? 800600? 1024768? i was
> > thinking about making the site conform to the window size, but id
> like
> > to get the layout first before i worry about that…
> >
> > –
> > Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com
> >
> >
> >
>

“Tony Ranieri” <woo_boy@puckoff.com> wrote in message
news:9gs7ko$dm5$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
> whats ‘the’ standard res to design for now? 800600? 1024768? i was
> thinking about making the site conform to the window size, but id
like
> to get the layout first before i worry about that…

Make it compatible to both including also VGA.

So make it for VGA, SVGA, XVGA and large screens with 1600 * 1200

Make also a different layout for print out.

I do this with all my new sites


Roland Mösl http://pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
http://BeingFound.com Web Design starts at the search engine

Here’s a screen shot from counter.com.

I believe it was- hmm, oh yeah, I remember-- Roland that said “Who wastes
to much time with a small minority is in danger, that he has not enough
time for the important majority”.

Just yanking your chain, man. I actually agree with your advice to Tony.
No hard feelings… :slight_smile:

> Make it compatible to both including also VGA.
>
> So make it for VGA, SVGA, XVGA and large screens with 1600 * 1200
>
> Make also a different layout for print out.

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“Ned Wolfenbarger” <nwolfenbarger@las.yesco.com> wrote in message
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> Here’s a screen shot from counter.com.
>
> I believe it was- hmm, oh yeah, I remember-- Roland that said
> "Who wastes
to
> much time with a small minority is in danger, that he has not enough
> time for the important majority".

There can be a difference :slight_smile:

UTMS will make a big change.

And who will be the first running all the time around with their new UTMS
mobile devices?

Oppinion leaders!

So I support also VGA with my multi layout.


Roland Mösl http://pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
http://BeingFound.com Web Design starts at the search engine

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Here from webhits.de

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Roland Mosl wrote:
>
> Here from webhits.de

Those statistics only reference the traffic to your sites.

-Mike K.

“Mike King” <mike@webcodefocus.com> wrote in message
news:3B3274B4.8C6AA713@webcodefocus.com
>
> Roland Mosl wrote:
> >
> > Here from webhits.de
>
> Those statistics only reference the traffic to your sites.

No, it’s the total statistic of webhits.de


Roland Mösl http://pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
http://BeingFound.com Web Design starts at the search engine

Didn’t you mention that in Europe the standard screen size is different
than the US?

Something to do with the history of “PAL” being on TV sets and all that?

“Roland Mösl” wrote:
>
> “Mike King” <mike@webcodefocus.com> wrote in message
> news:3B3274B4.8C6AA713@webcodefocus.com
> >
> > Roland Mosl wrote:
> > >
> > > Here from webhits.de
> >
> > Those statistics only reference the traffic to your sites.
>
> No, it’s the total statistic of webhits.de
>
> –
> Roland Mösl http://pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
> http://BeingFound.com Web Design starts at the search engine


Mike C.

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“Mike C.” <mike@artistmike.com> wrote in message
news:3B32DE6D.1BC8562A@artistmike.com
> Didn’t you mention that in Europe the standard screen size is different
> than the US?
>
> Something to do with the history of “PAL” being on TV sets and all that?

No. I would quess it’s based on telephone fees.

In the US, city calls are included in the monthly service fee. In
Europe, You have to pay for every minute to the ISP, unless You have
cable or ADSL.

In the US, also poor people with old computers use the internet. This
causes the higher VGA %

In Europe, the every minute fee stops poor people with old computers using
the internet.


Roland Mösl http://pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
http://BeingFound.com Web Design starts at the search engine

“Roland Mösl” wrote:
>
> “Mike King” <mike@webcodefocus.com> wrote in message
> news:3B3274B4.8C6AA713@webcodefocus.com
> >
> > Roland Mosl wrote:
> > >
> > > Here from webhits.de
> >
> > Those statistics only reference the traffic to your sites.
>
> No, it’s the total statistic of webhits.de

which only count the sites that use the webhits.de service.

-Mike K.