Saddle Sore

Owie Owie Owie Owie Owie!

i was not warned about this :frowning:

maybe i’m doing something wrong, or maybe it’s my seat (viscount), but i seem to be really sore on my upper-inner thighs, and just behind my balls (that might’ve been a bit more than you wanted to know…)

this happen to everyone?
is it something that’ll pass? (i sure hope so)
or are there any ways to avoid it?

ah well, i’m getting pierced tomorrow, so i might have to give it a rest for a couple of days anyway :wink:

Cheers,
Matt

its a rite of passage…the next rite of passage is spending 100$ on a miyata air seat conversion

Yes this happens to EVERYONE. The bad thing is that to keep learning you’ve got to keep that weight on the seat when you get back out there tomorrow.

The piercing part was the only part I didn’t want to know about.

Soreness happens. That’s the reason we spend so much time modifying our
saddles with inner tubes, foam, gel, custom covers, etc. to make them more
comfortable.

But since you’re at the learning stage you’re problems are probably due
to chafing because you’re tense and squeezing the seat as your ride.
Once you learn to ride better and can relax while on the uni you won’t
chafe as much.

Some hints:

  • Wear some good spandex cycling shorts. They will help keep the insides
    of your thighs from chafing. Wear the cycling shorts next to the skin
    (i.e. no underwear under them).

  • Try to avoid riding in jeans or other pants that have large thick seams.
    You can wear shorts or pants over the cycling shorts, just try to wear
    pants or shorts without big seams.

  • Don’t squeeze the seat with your thighs.

  • Modify your seat with a gel insert. I modified one of my Viscount seats
    with a gel insert and it’s much more comfortable than the stock seat.
    There used to be a web page that showed how to modify a Viscount with an
    air seat. That page has since moved and I don’t know where it is now. I
    followed the instructions on that page but decided to use gel instead of
    an inner tube (gel won’t get a flat and changing a flat tube in a
    Viscount air seat would be difficult). Perhaps someone knows where the
    Viscount air seat web page is now.

john_childs

>From: Dreddy_Matt <forum.member@unicyclist.com>
>
>Owie Owie Owie Owie Owie!
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All you gotta do is withstand the pain, untill you get it all caloused
up… or you could go with the air-seat, either one…

)—(x) Dylan Wallinger Keep Riding
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Sweat pants work very well here. They go over the spandex shorts, they have small seams, they are very soft and loose, and they easily go over soccer (football, UK) shin guards.

I am not sure about there ever being a webpage about making a Viscount air seat, but Rick Bissell created one a while back with good instructions on how to create an air seat using a Miyata seat. Using a Viscount would be pretty similar. However his web site no longer exists, so with his permission, I added the instructions to The Unicycle Page at http://www.unicycling.org/airseat

Rick’s airseat page

Great to have Rick’s airseat conversion instructions back online.
Thank you, Gilby and Rick.

Fred

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Yeah, i think i have. it’s partly a case of hanging on for dear life!
though, like you say, that’ll stop soon (i hope)

That might be a slight problem, as ALL the trousers i own are baggy jeans.
So far i’ve been riding in like skater shorts, but with your advise about the seams, i might see about putting like inserts in there to cover the seams on the inside, so they dont rub my legs.

as always, your advice/comments are appriciated

Cheers,
Matt

----- Original Message ----- From: “John Childs” <john_childs@hotmail.com>
> - Modify your seat with a gel insert. I modified one of my Viscount
> seats with a gel insert and it’s much more comfortable than the
> stock seat.
There
> used to be a web page that showed how to modify a Viscount with an air
seat.
> That page has since moved and I don’t know where it is now. I followed
>the instructions on that page but decided to use gel instead of an inner
> tube (gel won’t get a flat and changing a flat tube in a Viscount air
> seat
> would be difficult). Perhaps someone knows where the Viscount air seat
web
> page is now.

Ok, I don’t think there ever was a web page showing how to make a
Viscount air seat. It was just some posts here on RSU that described how
to do it. Here is a medly of three messages from RSU about making a
Viscount air/gel seat.

When making an air seat be careful not to overinflate the tube. It only
takes a little bit of air. Too much air and you will rip the seat cover
off. Use a hand pump to inflate the tube and don’t use full strokes.

[message one]

From: “Leo White” Subject: Re: what air seat…

You can make your Viscount into an airseat - here’s how …

  1. Undo the back screws and remove the crash guard.
  2. Carefully (with patience) peel back the cover which is glued over the
    foam back towards the “nose” of the saddle.
  3. Cut out a section of the foam with very sharp scissors, I cut out a
    largish diamond (nearly half the foam) around the weight bearing area
    of the saddle and leaving the front and outer edges more or less
    intact. This will leave some shape to the saddle.
  4. Drill a hole thru’ the base.
  5. Arrange a deflated inner tube inside the space where the foam once was
    (valve thru’ hole in base). I used a narrow 700c which I had to hand -
    others recommend smaller kids-bike tubes.
  6. Stretch the cover back and glue the outside using fabric adhesive,
    impact adhesive or something similar and screw back the crash guard.
  7. Pump up the tube and experiment with the pressure.

Miyata saddles are easier to adapt (removable foam) and lighter (but more
flexy) - again leave some of the foam to shape the nose of the saddle.

Happy air-riding

Leo White

Brad Gwynn wrote in message <377251EB.F3B@shore.net>…
>what is the best air seat setup? tyre tube combo? miyata,semcycle ect.?
>and would it be a large inprovement over my viscount? and what about some
>of the new high tec. petrochemecal compounds? like sorbathane ect. some
>of these may work fairly well. any sugestions are very much appreciated
>esp.by my behind.

[message two]

Subject: Re: Viscount air conversions? Date: 05/26/2000 Author:
John Hooten

Peter,

I have done an air conversion on a Viscount seat. I will describe it as
best I can.

  1. Remove plastic bumpers

  2. Slowly peal back leatherette cover from metal base and foam pad. The
    cover is glued down with some sort of contact cement. The foam is
    probably injected into a mold with the cover lining the mold. You want
    to be careful here that the foam doesn’t rip off in big chunks that
    stick to the cover. I used an exacto knife to almost shave it off. I
    removed about 75% of the edges of the saddle, but left the section on
    the back of the saddle attached so that it would be earsier to line
    the cover up when I glued it back on.

  3. Cut away foam to make room for the inner tube. I decided to use a
    1.25" x 8" wheel-chair (small fromt wheel) tube. This could be
    pushed together in 2 sections with folds only on the ends and fit in
    the saddle evenly with a slight gap between the two sides. George
    Peck recommends this slight gap down the center and I strongly
    concur. To create the slot in the foam I used a Dremel power hand
    tool (like a power drill) with a small cutting disk bit. When the
    edges were cut leaving foam in place all around so that the
    innertube would be surrounded by foam and the basic saddle shape
    would be maintained, I pealed the section from the middle. It looked
    like a hot dog, of sausage.

  4. Drill hole for tube stem. (I put it in the center in the back)

  5. Make sure there metal saddle plate where foam has been removed is
    covered with tape so nothiing will puncture the tube.

  6. Insert tube into saddle.

  7. Stretch cover back on and glue in place with contact cenent.

  8. Return saddle to unicycle.

  9. Inflate tube (not too much).

  10. Ride

This procedue was more complicated than converting a Miyata seat, but not
too difficult. I find this saddle to be very comfortanle. I have it on my
Coker. I also drilled holes in the saddles metal plate and bolted on a
Miyata handle to replace the plastic bumper. An excellent impeovement.

I understand Unicycle Source may be carrying Miyata seat parts. So you may
soon be able to get just a Miyata seat handle without having to buy the
entire saddle.

Good Luck,

John Hooten

“Kittle, Peter” wrote:

[message three]

Subject: Re: Viscount air conversions? Date: 05/26/2000 Author: John
Childs <john_childs@hotmail.com>

Yes it is possible to improve the padding in a Viscount seat. I stuffed
a gel pad in the Viscount seat that came with my Coker (I’m now using a
Miyata air seat on the Coker). I went with a gel pad in the Viscount
because a gel pad will never go flat. Reparing a flat tube in a
Viscount would not be fun because you would have to peel the whole
thing apart again.

What you will need: Screwdriver Sharp cuting tools like a utility knife,
and other knives A big fat gel pad for an exercise bike or a tube if you
are going to do an air seat Thick tacky glue similar to rubber cement (I
think I used a thick silicon based glue)

How to do it:
18. Remove the bumpers from the seat
19. Carefully remove the cover from the seat Start at the back and work
your way forward Important: Leave the cover still attached to the
nose of the seat
20. Cut out or hollow out the center area of the foam Leave the front,
rear, and edges of the foam so you can still keep the general
shape of the viscount seat and so you will have a place to glue
the cover back to
21. If you are doing an air seat drill a hole for the tube valve
22. Stuff the center of the seat with your favorite material
23. Glue the cover back on
24. Attach the bumpers

The Viscount with a gel pad is fairly comfortable (better than the
original padding for long rides). But a Miyata air seat is better yet.

john_childs