?'s on Gemcrest and Roach seat cover

Hi,

I have been considering upgrading my Miyata seat to an air seat and was considering the Gemcrest or the Roach seat cover.

Which one works best?
Is the leather Gemcrest worth the extra 20 bucks? I don’t mind paying the difference if it works better.

I already know that UNicycle.com is out of the roach covers and I am really in no hurry.

Thanks,

work the maze.

I haven’t had any experience with either, yet, but rumor has it that the leather holds up much better?

?

i’ve been using the Roach for 8 months,its great,the logo patch came off fast.

the leather one is coming to my house tomorrow,i bought it because i think it will work better with the Reeder handle…

more later,

> I’d like to start practicing that skill but I am wondering if it is too
> early for me. According to IUF skill level, I’d be level 2. I like
> hopping though and what makes me thing that I’d be able to do it is that
> I learned how to hop (level 3) before I was able to free mount (level
> 1). Is hopping on the wheel a skill that can be achevied before working
> on IUF level 6 ?

Not at all. Practice whatever you want. The idea of the skill levels is to
give people goals, and an idea of what to try next. Doesn’t mean you can’t
learn things out of order.

Hopping on the wheel is actually quite easy. The much harder part is getting
into and out of the skill.

As you mentioned, regular hopping is super-easy. Since my days working in
the schools I have seen that it is much easier than riding.

Stay on top,
JF

Hi TnDad,

I’ve had the vinyl Gemcrest/Miyata seat for about 4 months and use my uni primarily to commute. I had tried the Roach briefly on other folk’s unis and found that although it was comfortable, it shifted around a bit. One of my uni group leaders mentioned recently that his Roach cover had torn- I’m not sure of the circumstances.

I chose the Gemcrest because it was self-contained and waterproof. The vinyl cover has held up fine, but when it’s combined with the soft layers of inner tube, it tends to trap heat and sweat. On rides of 8 miles or more, I have to stand off the saddle for a minute or so to “air out” at least once. I don’t know if this would still occur with the more breatheable leather cover. Or perhaps this is a female-specific problem that might rear its ugly head in a forthcoming thread. My only other fault with the Gemcrest is that even when inflated very slightly, the resulting curvature shortens the useful length of the seat. It also feels slightly too narrow in the pelvic bone area, something male riders have also complained about when trying out my uni.

Before getting the Gemcrest, I tried a Sem air seat on my uni for about a week, but the cover tended to lift off the base on the sides, even when I taped the tube’s center together. It also felt too bouncy over bumps, even without much air. I found that the taller-sided base of the Miyata provided more rigidity to the air seat and felt more “solid” and less amorphic than the Sem, even with a second layer of inner tube. Perhaps it’s just a matter of personal preference.

Though after reading a recent post about wider seats providing more support for longer rides, I may experiment the Sem air seat or even the Roach again in the future.

Hope this helps!

Anne

One difference between the Roach and the Gemcrest is that the Roach cover has more volume. The sides of the Roach cover are taller so there is more room for extra padding. The extra volume can be either a good thing or a bad thing. For freestyle type riding the Roach would be too tall, but for muni the extra volume makes for a more comfortable seat.

john_childs

My two main unis both have leather covers - the third seat is in pieces
on
my floor as I write. They are great indeed: tough, comfortable and
generally
more readily available than the Roach (of which I have never seen to
compare
against). I never spend any great length of time in the saddle though so
I
don’t know how they hold up for long rides.

Neil

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> I haven’t had any experience with either, yet, but rumor has it that
the
leather holds up much better?
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I’ve got Roach covers on 3 unis, but on my Muni the seams are blown out

this is after about a year of lots of riding though. I just ordered one
of
the leather ones yesterday to try. Others that have it swear by it.

—Nathan

“teachndad” <forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote in message
news:a2ogdh$pdq$1@laurel.tc.umn.edu
> Hi,
>
> I have been considering upgrading my Miyata seat to an air seat and
was
considering the Gemcrest or the Roach seat cover.
>
> Which one works best?
> Is the leather Gemcrest worth the extra 20 bucks? I don’t mind paying
the
difference if it works better.
>
> I already know that UNicycle.com is out of the roach covers and I am
really in no hurry.

I’m putting a Gemcrest leather seat onto a carbon frame for my wife to
work
with. I’ve had a Roach cover for a couple of years. The seams come
undone on
the Roach–I’m having them resewn by a cobbler this week. I also had a
cobbler
put in shoelace-type holes to keep it snug. I like the extra volume the
Roach
seat has. I put in gel as well as air.

David Maxfield
Bainbridge Island, WA

teachndod

i got the leather one, and it is so nice that i’m gonna use the roach until its death…the leather is sweet but for offroad i know that codura is better…

when its time to bail i would hate to watch that nice leather spank the mud n rocks

i say buy both of them,the leather is also heavier which no one has mentioned:D

I spoke with Amy yesterday. She was in the process of tracking down her UPS package of 150 Roach covers or so. You’ll be able to get one if needed, and real soon. The Miyata seats and Cokers is a different story…