Ride the Lobster: GPS info survey

I sent them an email seeing if they needed an official videographer…no reply yet…

remember what i said about not making a 3rd movie?

nevermind

see you guys in september :slight_smile:

does a person have to be on a team or can they run it solo

I think we would at least entertain the proposal of someone wanting to solo this race. But I’m not aware of anyone who could actually do it. I would expect that person to be able to complete each day’s stage in the time limit alloted. I don’t think it would be interesting for the race to have a soloist who completes 80% of each days ride. So it would be a pretty tall order, to pull off 160km/day for 5 consecutive days, in only 12 hours riding per day, on hard terrain, in bad weather, etc etc.

With the typical 24 hour races, it’s fine to have soloists as they can just do less distance than the teams. This race is different. Each day is A to B and you must make it to B. And 24 hours is a LOT shorter than this race!

—Nathan

so each team member does a stage?

Please read the basic info thread first that explains the race: Amazing Unicycle Race in Canada! June 2008

It is a relay race, but it’s 5 days long and each day covers an average of 160km. Each team decides how often they exchange riders. The “baton” is a GPS device (stats from which is the discussion topic here). The terrain gets harder as the days go on - by the 5th day you will be wishing you had more than just two riding teammates.

While there are a number of riders who could accomplish any single day of the race solo, I assert that doing the whole thing would be almost inhumanly difficult. Impossible for me, for sure. Perhaps training Lars Clausen style might enable someone to do it though. So I would listen to any serious proposal by someone who wanted to attempt it as I think there could be extra media interest if someone like that existed.

—Nathan

Is that a challenge? :wink:

I think it’s doable, 12hrs is not a difficult cut-off. But I probably wouldn’t do it unless there were lot’s of others going solo. It’s no fun otherwise, and you wouldn’t be competitive against the teams.

Ken I think you are one of the very few who might have a chance. But I think you’re safe!

—Nathan

I think the top teams should be averaging around about 25km/hr. An individual should be able to to perhaps 20km/hr average. That’s only about 8hrs riding a day. Not a huge amount of riding- our two wheeled cousins do lot’s of multiday tours that are much longer than that. And they have bigger gears to push.

I wasn’t kidding- if we had at least 3 other solo riders (say, Roger, Dustin, Patrick, Sam?), I’d go solo too.

dang, i already signed on to film :wink:

How much vertical would likely be involved per day? No restful tuck and steer on the down-vert either! It’s relatively flat where I live and so 100 mi./day for 5 days sounds tough but do-able. But over undulating terrain? Whew!

When I first read about this, I imagined a euro-cycling Grand Tour model (teams/team tactics & individual pursuits - both individual & team glory within the same race) and that there were enough superstar Cokerheads who could avg. 160k a day. What is the rationale or precedent for a relay-style stage race?

Trying to pound out those kinds of SERIOUS miles individually over unfamiliar terrain, against the clock, could be inviting dangerous fatigue-related crashes. A relay race sounds more FUN and more SAFE - but is definitely less SERIOUS.

It’s much harder to ride that sort of distance on the flat than it is on hilly terrain. On the flat, you have nowhere to rest, you are pedalling the whole time. And it’s much more painful because it’s harder to change positions/muscle use/get off the saddle for the climbs/rest on the downhills.

On the SINZ tour- I felt pretty good after our 100mile day, which had a mixture of hills http://www.sinzuni.org/d9.html
On my first Unitour- through Cambodia- I was a wreck after riding about 70km on flat terrain.

k i need to find a team Hopefully one will take a 14 year old

“Distance per team member: It is up to each team to decide how to divide the daily distance.
Timing: All teams will start out every day at the same time. The times for each day and the time trial(s) will added together to determine the total time and therefore the winner.
Seriousness of Competition: While this will be a competitive event, all levels of ability for long distance riding are encouraged.

Clearly I didn’t read carefully enough. Shame on me. Inclusiveness is a laudable goal in these early days of unicycle distance competitions! Still though, I can’t shake the feeling that relay teams, hand-picked by ‘somebody’ for balanced racing, are unreal and make a floppy precedent for a race which could provide the impetus to establish an annual or semi-annual series.

I see your point. I think I’ll have to try it myself to believe it though! This summer I’ll try to plan a long weekend in the hills of western Wisconsin.

So you must ride your downhills with brake engaged (?) - I’ve never used brakes and have a heavy steel wheel - I assume it is downhill where you get your ‘rest’ while still pedalling.

I don’t use a brake either. You get rest by letting the wheel ‘roll’ underneath you and just let your legs spin with it. If you put backpressure on the pedals to slow you all the way down the hill, that can be pretty tiring.

Wow! The steeper the better, huh! Clearly you are a very skilled unicyclist. I’ve been for five years an urban night-riding cokeur with little fear or shame but steep downhills still weird me out, so I take them slowly! On rides longer than a few hours I feel less unity with the unicycle especially when pacing downhill.

GizmoDuck is the world record holder for 24 hr distance on a unicycle. The guy’s a mutant! (I mean that in the most respectful way possible, Ken! :smiley: :smiley: )

I like hilly terrain because it’s interesting, but I’m not sure it’s easier to ride than flat, at least for me, a rider of much less skill and prowess than Ken (GizmoDuck).

Just remember, that what works perfectly for Ken will not necessarily work for you. Listen to what he says, but you have to temper that with his unusual viewpoint (also meant in the best possible way). I’ve seen him blow by me up a pass in the Swiss Alps on 110mm cranks and I’ve seen him crank out over 100 miles of crazy single track in 24 hours. His crank length and brake choices don’t work for me - everyone has to discover what works best for themselves.

—Nathan

Watch what Nathan says, too. He’s also a mutant! :smiley: :smiley: