Republicans Wrongly Fire 8 US Prosecutors: 3,000 Justice Dept emails released today

Bush is standing by Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez. In the past when he stood by someone (Rumsfeld), they resigned within a week.

The Republicans will have to use some pretty dirty tricks to beat this one. I’m worried that someone close to Bush is going down for Obstruction of Justice. That’s the main crime here. So now this deserves it’s own thread.

The White House originally claimed they were fired/pushed to resign for poor performance. But…

<a href="Six of the eight U.S. attorneys fired by the Justice Department ranked in the top third among their peers for the number of prosecutions filed last year, according to an analysis of federal records.

In addition, five of the eight were among the government’s top performers in winning convictions.">http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070321/NEWS08/703210440

It turns out these particular US attorneys were just too good at prosecuting the corruption in govt, and, though they were ALL HIRED BY BUSH, they were really hurting some big-time republicans. For example, one of the fired US attorneys is Carol Lam in San Diego, who got the 2005 conviction of former GOP Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham, who is serving jail time for bribery. The were implications that that investigation was leading closer and closer to the White House. Beautiful.

With Karl Rove’s emails back and forth to Gonzales, Rove is implicated in the obstruction of justice. The House commitee investigating Rove has asked Rove to testify publicly, under oath. Bush has counter-offered to let Rove testify privately, not under oath, and allow no transcript of the testimony. No dice, says commitee chair Patrick Leahy -under oath only, why should we trust you? - and he’s threatening to subpeona Rove and some other high White House advisors.

Now Bush says the dems are playing politics!! Why shouldn’t Rove be sworn in, unless he needs to lie?

I love this.:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

This is beautiful. I love you guys keeping me updated on this. Down with republicans. Makes it alittle easier to believe 9/11 was not what it seemed.

-Shaun Johanneson

p.s. I’ll get my case jumped on by a lot of people now. Oh well.

Get your capital letters correct. That should be down with Republicans. There is a big difference between a Republican and a republican. More specifically, you should say, down with the neo-conservatives, which does include most Republicans today, but not the true republicans.

But yes, it’s becoming easier to think 9/11 was not what we were told. The oddest part of the whole event that makes it suspicious is WTC 7, and why it fell.

I’ve been struggling with that issue recently. I’ve seen several of the videos on the Internet about controlled demolition, etc. And yes, WTC 7 raises a lot of questions. But this is a very hard decision to come to. The implications are enormous and monstrous. I’m still trying to figure out whether we went to the moon, but that’s virtually irrelevant compared to the question of whether we blew up our own buildings with 3,000 people still inside. And if we did, then what’s even more monstrous is the hidden agenda that that action facilitates.

By the way, I have no idea what this thread is about (yet).

This email thing is a bunch of hogwash, used for democratic political gain.

look at this quote from a CNN story

"WASHINGTON (CNN) – A 16-day gap in e-mail records between the Justice Department and the White House concerning the firing of U.S. attorneys last year has attracted the attention of congressional investigators.

In an investigation into whether seven U.S. attorneys were fired for political rather than professional reasons, the Justice Department on Monday handed over 3,000 pages of documents to the House and Senate Judiciary committees.

But the documents included no correspondence about the firings in the critical time period between November 15, 2006, and December 2, 2006, right before the attorneys were asked for their resignations. "

Now seriously…if these men were fired for political reasons, surely there would have been emails exchanged during that 16 day period?? And there is none. That means there has been no wrong doing, I can’t see any other explanation {better go ahead and put this is now…:)}

If you’re going to take a quote from an article you should at least post a link so that we can read the whole article, to see that you’ve taken things out of context.

For anyone that wants to read the full article you can find it here

I hope that Mr. McKenzie wasn’t being serious about lack of emails means lack of wrong doing.

I think the proper smiley for sarcasm is :roll_eyes: or :smiley: or :p, not :slight_smile:

Being sarcastic makes me smile. so I stand by my :slight_smile:

Things are heating up for the Bush administration…

Gonzales’ ex-chief just testified yesterday that, contrary to what Gonzales said, he and the Whitehouse lawyers and staff HAD been a party in the decisions to fire the 8 US Attorneys. Oops.

The head of the Justice Dept, the Attorney General, now may be facing obstruction of justice charges for changing the US Attorneys during their investigations into Repub. scandals.

Now I wonder why Bush won’t let his lawyer Meirs or his henchman Rove testify under oath? Hmmm.

I couldn’t be happier. Well, yes I could, but I still like to see the Bushies fry. FRY I SAY!

The rest of the world recognizes Bush represents a menace to the security of us all, not to mention what it’s like to live under this reprehensible regime (only Giuliani make it worse). But in the wake of the Iraq catrastrophe, the desires of the rest of the world seems irrelevant. No one can confront the USA, this large rich nation that enjoys considerable grassroots support in the Christian world for it’s defiance of others. There was a day the USA was known for patience, statesmanship, and a refusal to respond in kind to outrageous behavior. Bush has left the rational universe.

back to the Justice Department’s injustice to it’s employees and protection of Republican criminals…

Reagan Revolution

“The revolution is like saturn, it devours its own children.”:smiley:

Somebody had to start to correct some of the ills created by FDR and his raw deal.

Step 1: Smash capitalism.
Step 2: Smash the state.

Rinse and repeat as necessary.

Impossible. You can not get rid of the laws of economics. It can be severely limited to the people, but not smashed.

Even the state operates under capitalism, but they do it by force. Using their fraudulently gained power to limit everyone that does not conform to the demands of the government and the powers that be.

Possible, but the people would have to be willing to actively prevent corruption and not tolerate any expansion of the government.

Yes, it’s a constant battle to prevent the evil people from seizing control of the state and therefore the people. In the US, they gained control a long time ago and regaining the control back to the people is a huge task.

“dispel the myth of the separation of church and state.”

PAUL KRUGMAN: For God’s Sake (Today’s NYTimes)

In 1981, Gary North, a leader of the Christian Reconstructionist movement — the openly theocratic wing of the Christian right — suggested that the movement could achieve power by stealth. “Christians must begin to organize politically within the present party structure,” he wrote, “and they must begin to infiltrate the existing institutional order.”

Today, Regent University, founded by the televangelist Pat Robertson to provide “Christian leadership to change the world,” boasts that it has 150 graduates working in the Bush administration.

Unfortunately for the image of the school, where Mr. Robertson is chancellor and president, the most famous of those graduates is Monica Goodling, a product of the university’s law school. She’s the former top aide to Alberto Gonzales who appears central to the scandal of the fired U.S. attorneys and has declared that she will take the Fifth rather than testify to Congress on the matter.

The infiltration of the federal government by large numbers of people seeking to impose a religious agenda — which is very different from simply being people of faith — is one of the most important stories of the last six years. It’s also a story that tends to go underreported, perhaps because journalists are afraid of sounding like conspiracy theorists.

But this conspiracy is no theory. The official platform of the Texas Republican Party pledges to “dispel the myth of the separation of church and state.” And the Texas Republicans now running the country are doing their best to fulfill that pledge.

So after his testimony yesterday,the question is:

Is the nations’ top law enforcement official a bumbling idiot?

Or dishonest?

Either way, his resignation is overdue.

This Modern World by Tom Tomorrow just came out with a good cartoon about this, an analogy between Nixon increasingly presidency and Bush’s increasingly isolated presidency…

Can anyone paste it in here?

No. But since you mention the analogy, a person who has lived through the Nixon administration might appreciate these:

Kissinger by Walter Isaacson

And

The Imperial Presidency by Arthur Schlesinger

The first one is creepy, well, because Henry Kissinger is a psychopath.