Rail adapters

General
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ok I give in

I’m going to get 1, possibly 2 CF seat bases for my Trials Uni, and Muni that I’m building…

So what rail adapter is better? The SH Kingport one? or the Muniac’s

last I heard there were some problems with the Muniacs welds…

Can someone update me on that?

Mike

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The Wilder rail adapters are made by the Canadian shop that makes the KH Pro frames. They’re not made by Muniac (Scott Bridgman).

If you want to run a brake then I’d get the Wilder. If you aren’t going to run a brake then I’d get the Kinport.

The Kinport fits the standard 4 bolt pattern as used on the Velo, Viscount, and many other unicycle saddles. The Wilder fits the Miyata bolt pattern. If you want to experiment with a Velo saddle you’ll need to use the Kinport.

I haven’t had any problems with the welds on the Wilder. But the welds are thin and very close to the edge of the metal. It’s not the strongest way to weld. The Kinport is welded better. If the weld on the Wilder does break it can be rewelded but that costs money and would take time.

The Kinport is about half the cost of the Wilder. I’d get the Kinport unless you really plan on using a brake.

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John,

You must know these guys ??no?
The mystery canadian muni builders,I’d like to know,

Where in canada are those parts made??
The brackets and frames.
Do these guys have a name?What Province are they from?

Is it a secret ??

Thank’s John

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Why is the wilder any better for brakes??

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The Wilder has a post welded to the front which is designed to allow a brake lever to be attatched.
The Kinport does not have this.

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Because it has a short built in post to attach the brake lever.

You can actually still mount a brake lever when using the Kinport. You put a MTB bar end on the seatpost just below the seat and attach the brake lever to the bar end.

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Then surely this would be a better idea, seeing as you said the Kinport can be stronger and is half the price?

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John,

You must know these guys ??no?
The mystery canadian muni builders,I’d like to know,

Where in canada are those parts made??
The brackets and frames.
Do these guys have a name?What Province are they from?

Is it a secret ??

Thank’s John

Is it a Norco product?

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I don’t know the shop that make Kris’ frames. I just know of them from talking to Kris. The shop is in Vancouver BC.

Erin managed to accidentally find the shop a few days ago when she was looking for a way to fix the spinning bolts in her Velo saddle. See her post on 5-13-2003 in this thread
<http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25118>

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Forget it ,it doesn’t matter.

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I can’t figure out why I 'd want to know such thing’s?
I’m a bike/auto mechanic,gear freak. ???

Thank’s John

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would using the kinport and a bar end at the seat post place the brake lever too far down to reach?

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seems that way,but it will only work it your seat post is 22.2.

if you have a fatter seat post like 25.4 and up,your not going to find a bar-end to fit that.

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My question was answered without me having to ask

Thanks for the information John. I was interested in finding out if the Wilder was any stronger. I have a Wilder Lightrider and I plan to get a Kinport rail adaptor sometime for the CF seat. I have no need for the brake post since I don’t have brake bosses on the aluminium frame. It is handy to know that the Kinport is just as strong for less money and less weight.

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That depends on the shape of the bar end. Some of them have a curve in them that could allow you to get the brake lever closer to the seat. You’d have to look around at different bar ends and find one that lets you position the brake lever where it’s useful.

As Jagur mentioned, the bar ends will fit a 22.2 seatpost. For fatter seatposts you’ll need to explore other options.

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Thanks for the info.

I think I’m going to get 2 Kingport adapters.

Hopefully I’ll be able to make enough for the uni and pay for my flights by the time I go out to camp.

Chex

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If my wilder bracket breaks ,Unicycle.com will replace it for free,if they don’t well?No because it cost so much to ship it back it’s not worth it ,I’ll just copy it but make mine stronger . If I knew where that Canadian shop was I’d uni over there and show them how to weld myself.
It bugs me being a Canadian to hear how far this silly stuff has to travel to get next door ,unicycling is a breeze compared to having to pay huge for shipping /brokerage fees, the price triples,which is way high to get a part that is a some point going to break…
In the long run you’d be better off buying a brand new welder for cheap and make all your own uni parts,brackets, frames ,heck make 5 of each for all your friend’s.
I understand now why I read alot of posts on homemade uni’s.
Plus it could turn out to be alot of fun. Tig welders on my list.