pedal grabs

I’ve just been reading Kris Holms thingy on pedal grabs at
http://www.muniac.com/tipstext.htm but I’m still not quite sure how to do
it.

What I’ve been trying is I think pretty much the second method on there,
catching the pedal and then swinging up onto the obstacle (the wall at the
edge of a little flowerbed thingy).

I wasn’t taking the bottom foot off though, using that to help swing the
wheel up and just leaning into the wall more, maybe that’s where I’m
going wrong?

I also had an idea that if I can swing the wheel round with a bit of speed
and twist a little I might be able to get the tyre to catch onto the top
of the wall and roll it up, like going up a smallish kerb, kind of
avoiding the little hop up bit. Can anyone do this? Is it much harder? It
seems to me it’d look pretty cool being able to pedal grab up to a wall
and just swing the uni and ride straight off along the wall.

Anyone got any other tips on this one?

Also is there a good video of a pedal grab somewhere on the net?

I’m practicing quite a bit at the moment because one of the neighbours
borrowed my unicycle for half an hour and learnt to ride pretty well,
looks like I’m gonna have to work to keep ahead of him!

cheers,

joe

im also learning pedal grabs. I learned crank stalls first to get the feel of being on one side of the yike on an obstacle. it definitely helps to take the opposite foot off for balance. if u dont like the swinging feel of the yike when doing pedal grabs just hold it up so it is like a crank stall w/o the crank touching and try to hop up or have just a little swing to it. also the important one is practice. i have been trying pedal grabs and crank stalls for about a month and can land them almost every try but in the beginning all i was landing was on the ground. lol well hope that helped some goodluck Kyle Grasso

Hi Joe,

I went with the hooking the crank and pedal method with the seat out in
front - the swinging wheel way just seemed too scary to begin with. When
the crank and pedal are both on the object it feels a lot more stable
(relatively speaking) as well. It did for me anyway so that’s what I
focused on when learning. A 20" Monty was also way easier to learn on than
my 24" MUni. Perhaps the swinging motion would give you more upward
momentum - thus making it a bit easier on a bigger wheel?

As for getting the tyre on to the object… I think of it as performing a
one legged spring straight upwards. When you’re balancing on the one foot
your body is already moved to one side. So when you spring up the way the
uni kinda comes in under you without too much thought. I’d imagine it’s
the same for both methods but not being able to actually do both I’m
really just guessing here.

Does that help or confuse? I’m not sure :wink:

Neil

-----Original Message----- From: joe_marshall@bigfoot.com
[mailto:joe_marshall@bigfoot.com] Sent: 24 September 2001 14:40 To:
unicycling@winternet.com Subject: pedal grabs Importance: Low

I’ve just been reading Kris Holms thingy on pedal grabs at
http://www.muniac.com/tipstext.htm but I’m still not quite sure how to do
it.

What I’ve been trying is I think pretty much the second method on there,
catching the pedal and then swinging up onto the obstacle (the wall at the
edge of a little flowerbed thingy).

I wasn’t taking the bottom foot off though, using that to help swing the
wheel up and just leaning into the wall more, maybe that’s where I’m
going wrong?

I also had an idea that if I can swing the wheel round with a bit of speed
and twist a little I might be able to get the tyre to catch onto the top
of the wall and roll it up, like going up a smallish kerb, kind of
avoiding the little hop up bit. Can anyone do this? Is it much harder? It
seems to me it’d look pretty cool being able to pedal grab up to a wall
and just swing the uni and ride straight off along the wall.

Anyone got any other tips on this one?

Also is there a good video of a pedal grab somewhere on the net?

I’m practicing quite a bit at the moment because one of the neighbours
borrowed my unicycle for half an hour and learnt to ride pretty well,
looks like I’m gonna have to work to keep ahead of him!

cheers,

joe

Joe, Look through the video clips at www.muniac.com There is one with
Scott Bridgeman on a picnic table and he actually pedal grabs twice. Let
me know what works for you; I’ve been trying for off and on (mostly off)
for months with no success.

Jeff

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:39:56 GMT “Joe Marshall”
<joe_marshall@bigfoot.com> writes:
> I’ve just been reading Kris Holms thingy on pedal grabs at
> http://www.muniac.com/tipstext.htm but I’m still not quite sure
> how to do
> it.
>
> What I’ve been trying is I think pretty much the second method on there,
> catching the pedal and then swinging up onto the obstacle (the wall at
> the edge of a little flowerbed thingy).
>
> I wasn’t taking the bottom foot off though, using that to help swing the
> wheel up and just leaning into the wall more, maybe that’s where I’m
> going wrong?
>
> I also had an idea that if I can swing the wheel round with a bit of
> speed and twist a little I might be able to get the tyre to catch onto
> the top of the wall and roll it up, like going up a smallish kerb, kind
> of avoiding the little hop up bit. Can anyone do this? Is it much
> harder? It seems to me it’d look pretty cool being able to pedal grab up
> to a wall and just swing the uni and ride straight off along the wall.
>
> Anyone got any other tips on this one?
>
> Also is there a good video of a pedal grab somewhere on the net?
>
> I’m practicing quite a bit at the moment because one of the neighbours
> borrowed my unicycle for half an hour and learnt to ride pretty well,
> looks like I’m gonna have to work to keep ahead of him!
>
> cheers,
>
> joe
>
>
>
>


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Neil Dunlop wrote:

> As for getting the tyre on to the object… I think of it as performing
> a one legged spring straight upwards. When you’re balancing on the one
> foot your body is already moved to one side. So when you spring up the
> way the uni kinda comes in under you without too much thought. I’d
> imagine it’s the same for both methods but not being able to actually do
> both I’m really just guessing here.

The idea of a one legged sprint is good. I’ll just add that after the
short burst of thrust, that one leg has to come off the ground. So shove
hard and then lift your foot. That was my stumbling block for a long
time-- I expected the inertia of the wheel to lift my whole body off the
ground. Surprise, didn’t work.

Chris

Neil Dunlop wrote:

> As for getting the tyre on to the object… I think of it as performing
> a one legged spring straight upwards. When you’re balancing on the one
> foot your body is already moved to one side. So when you spring up the
> way the uni kinda comes in under you without too much thought. I’d
> imagine it’s the same for both methods but not being able to actually do
> both I’m really just guessing here.

The idea of a one legged sprint is good. I’ll just add that after the
short burst of thrust, that one leg has to come off the ground. So shove
hard and then lift your foot. That was my stumbling block for a long
time-- I expected the inertia of the wheel to lift my whole body off the
ground. Surprise, didn’t work.

Chris

Hi,

There is a closeup view of a pedal grab in the upcoming movie Unizaba
<www.beyondgravity.net/unizaba>

Other than reading those tips at <http://www.muniac.com/tipstext.htm>, a
couple of other things to note:

  1. once you have things coordinated there isn’t much upwards force needed
    for a pedal grab, especially if you’re doing it with a 20" trials uni.
    It’s best to learn this technique “backwards”- start by standing in the
    pedal grab position and work on this part before you work on how to
    jump into the pedal grab.

  2. Although much less versatile, crank grabs are easier, where you hook
    the entire crank and then jump upwards and pull the uni up with you.

  3. The jumping motion for a pedal grab (as opposed to a crank grab)
    involves relatively little upwards jumping. It’s more like jumping
    (while standing) by pulling your legs up quickly as opposed to actually
    springing off the ground.

Cheers,

Kris. — Joe Marshall <joe_marshall@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> I’ve just been reading Kris Holms thingy on pedal grabs at
> http://www.muniac.com/tipstext.htm but I’m still not quite sure
> how to do
> it.
>
> What I’ve been trying is I think pretty much the second method on there,
> catching the pedal and then swinging up onto the obstacle (the wall at
> the edge of a little flowerbed thingy).
>
> I wasn’t taking the bottom foot off though, using that to help swing the
> wheel up and just leaning into the wall more, maybe that’s where I’m
> going wrong?
>
> I also had an idea that if I can swing the wheel round with a bit of
> speed and twist a little I might be able to get the tyre to catch onto
> the top of the wall and roll it up, like going up a smallish kerb, kind
> of avoiding the little hop up bit. Can anyone do this? Is it much
> harder? It seems to me it’d look pretty cool being able to pedal grab up
> to a wall and just swing the uni and ride straight off along the wall.
>
> Anyone got any other tips on this one?
>
> Also is there a good video of a pedal grab somewhere on the net?
>
> I’m practicing quite a bit at the moment because one of the neighbours
> borrowed my unicycle for half an hour and learnt to ride pretty well,
> looks like I’m gonna have to work to keep ahead of him!
>
> cheers,
>
> joe
>
>
>


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> The idea of a one legged sprint is good. I’ll just add that after the
> short burst of thrust, that one leg has to come off the ground. So shove
> hard and then lift your foot. That was my stumbling block for a long
> time-- I expected the inertia of the wheel to lift my whole body off the
> ground. Surprise, didn’t work.

Doh, that’s where I was going wrong. Obvious once someones told you it,
but it seems so close to doing the right thing when you are trying it the
other way. Okay, I’ll try that now.

Joe

> The idea of a one legged sprint is good. I’ll just add that after the
> short burst of thrust, that one leg has to come off the ground. So shove
> hard and then lift your foot. That was my stumbling block for a long
> time-- I expected the inertia of the wheel to lift my whole body off the
> ground. Surprise, didn’t work.

Doh, that’s where I was going wrong. Obvious once someones told you it,
but it seems so close to doing the right thing when you are trying it the
other way. Okay, I’ll try that now.

Joe

> The idea of a one legged sprint is good. I’ll just add that after the
> short burst of thrust, that one leg has to come off the ground. So shove
> hard and then lift your foot. That was my stumbling block for a long
> time-- I expected the inertia of the wheel to lift my whole body off the
> ground. Surprise, didn’t work.

Doh, that’s where I was going wrong. Obvious once someones told you it,
but it seems so close to doing the right thing when you are trying it the
other way. Okay, I’ll try that now.

Joe

In the video Universe,

Kris Holm does some pedal grabs in different spots. You can see clearly how he catches the pedal and then pulls up and the lower pedal comes up and over. But that will cost you 20 bucks. But if you want to watch a lot of that stuff get the video. You can pick up some techniques.

Also, I can’t remember, but I think unicycle.com has a trailer for that film at their website that you can look at online. There might be a shot of a pedal grab in that. But, I really am not sure about that.

Hey Kris, thanks for these extra pointers…

I’ve pretty much mastered(as far as I’ve wanted to anyway) my crank climbs
and I actually got onto a bolder last night that involved a jump up to the
pedal and crank then about another foot up to another pedal and crank and
then a hop to rubber.

That was the extreme case (and rarely successful for me) of a great
crank climb but I think if I could finish learning the pedal grap,
something like that could have been down in one hop and then a pedal to
rubber swing.

My main question is does it matter if the seat is underneath you for pedal
climbs or is it a lot easier to pull it up with the seat out in front? I
can still get up stuff way more successfully by keeping the seat
underneath me so I’ve never been comfortable to try crank or pedal climbs
with the seat out in front.

Thanks… Mike the Unipsycho

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“Kris Holm” <danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20010924193144.2150.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com
> Hi,
>
> There is a closeup view of a pedal grab in the upcoming movie Unizaba
> <www.beyondgravity.net/unizaba>
>
> Other than reading those tips at <http://www.muniac.com/tipstext.htm>, a
couple of other things to
> note:
>
> 1) once you have things coordinated there isn’t much upwards force
> needed
for a pedal grab,
> especially if you’re doing it with a 20" trials uni. It’s best to learn
this technique
> “backwards”- start by standing in the pedal grab position and
> work on this
part before you work on
> how to jump into the pedal grab.
>
> 2) Although much less versatile, crank grabs are easier, where you hook
the entire crank and then
> jump upwards and pull the uni up with you.
>
> 3) The jumping motion for a pedal grab (as opposed to a crank grab)
involves relatively little
> upwards jumping. It’s more like jumping (while standing) by pulling your
legs up quickly as
> opposed to actually springing off the ground.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kris. — Joe Marshall <joe_marshall@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> > I’ve just been reading Kris Holms thingy on pedal grabs at
> > http://www.muniac.com/tipstext.htm but I’m still not quite sure how to
do
> > it.
> >
> > What I’ve been trying is I think pretty much the second method on
> > there, catching the pedal and then swinging up onto the obstacle (the
> > wall at
the
> > edge of a little flowerbed thingy).
> >
> > I wasn’t taking the bottom foot off though, using that to help
> > swing the wheel up and just leaning into the wall more, maybe
> > that’s where I’m
going
> > wrong?
> >
> > I also had an idea that if I can swing the wheel round with a bit of
speed
> > and twist a little I might be able to get the tyre to catch onto
> > the top
of
> > the wall and roll it up, like going up a smallish kerb, kind of
> > avoiding
the
> > little hop up bit. Can anyone do this? Is it much harder? It seems
> > to me it’d look pretty cool being able to pedal grab up to a wall
> > and just
swing
> > the uni and ride straight off along the wall.
> >
> > Anyone got any other tips on this one?
> >
> > Also is there a good video of a pedal grab somewhere on the net?
> >
> > I’m practicing quite a bit at the moment because one of the neighbours
> > borrowed my unicycle for half an hour and learnt to ride pretty well,
looks
> > like I’m gonna have to work to keep ahead of him!
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > joe
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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