Pedal grabs - seat in or out?

Hi all,

The past few days have seen me trying to learn the last part (I ain’t bothered
with the first part as yet) of pedal grabs. To set the seen - you’ve got your
pedal on whatever and you want to jump on to, one foot planted on the pedal, one
hand holding the seat and the other arm and leg flailing wildly trying to keep
your balance. You would laugh if you were to witness to my comical attempts but
perseverance will win through… won’t it?!

My question is this - when learning such a maneuver would folks say it’s easier
with the seat out or in. I guess I mean to land on your obstacle with the seat
out or in. Either way I try at the moment seems to transform into a wild dance
that ends up with me on my back looking at the birds flying past with smirks on
their faces and the sheep not knowing where to look…

Em… yes I have seen Universe and yes - I do own a copy. I just don’t have a
VCR to play it on :frowning:

Cheers, Neil

Re: Pedal grabs - seat in or out?

Whether you do the latter part of the pedal grab with seat out or in depends
partly on personal preference.

I always do this with the seat out in front and I think it would be very
awkward to do this move on a 24x3" unicycle with the seat between your legs.
This also sets you up to do a second hop or pedal grab straight out of the
first one. However, I’ve seen Dan do this move on his Monty uni with the seat
between his legs.

One big reason for having the seat out in front is that it can be a bit less
intimidating and it’s often easier to bail out part way through if necessary!

-Kris. — Neil Dunlop <neild@roachmill.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The past few days have seen me trying to learn the last part (I ain’t bothered
> with the first part as yet) of pedal grabs. To set the seen - you’ve got your
> pedal on whatever and you want to jump on to, one foot planted on the pedal,
> one hand holding the seat and the other arm and leg flailing wildly trying to
> keep your balance. You would laugh if you were to witness to my comical
> attempts but perseverance will win through… won’t it?!
>
> My question is this - when learning such a maneuver would folks say it’s
> easier with the seat out or in. I guess I mean to land on your obstacle with
> the seat out or in. Either way I try at the moment seems to transform into a
> wild dance that ends up with me on my back looking at the birds flying past
> with smirks on their faces and the sheep not knowing where to look…
>
> Em… yes I have seen Universe and yes - I do own a copy. I just don’t have a
> VCR to play it on
>
> Cheers, Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Pedal grabs - seat in or out?]

Speaking from personal experience and observations of friends I would say it
depends on the person.

The majority of people I know use the seat in method. I prefer the seat out
method. It gives you that extra bit of height when you are jumping into the
pedal grab, making it possible to navigate larger objects.

I have had more success with the seat out method but then this is the one I work
on. I also found when learning pedal grabs that you have a good side and a bad
side. If your attempts look like a spastic frog learning to dance try
approaching the object from the reverse direction so a different foot is closer.
I usually aim my rear foot at the object.

I find it easier to land on the whole crank rather than just the pedal. It gives
you a bit more stability and also makes it easier to learn crank grinds. Try
learning to balance on your whole crank and pedal as opposed to just the pedal.
Then you can progress onto just the pedal.

Also I suggest riding up to an object, jumping onto it, briefly land in a
crank/pedal grab and then jump off it again. It is easier to do this than the
second part of the pedal grab where you don’t have the tyre to help you jump.

I’ve by no means mastered this but I have successfully navigated 30" objects
using pedal grabs. Have fun.

o o Peter Bier o O o Juggler, unicyclist and mathematician.
o/|\o peter_bier@usa.net


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Re: [Pedal grabs - seat in or out?]

Hi Peter,

> I have had more success with the seat out method but then this is the one
I
> work on. I also found when learning pedal grabs that you have a good side
and
> a bad side. If your attempts look like a spastic frog learning to dance
try
> approaching the object from the reverse direction so a different foot is
> closer. I usually aim my rear foot at the object.

“… a spastic frog learning to dance…” you’ve seen me then :wink: When you say
you aim your rear foot at the object do you mean that when you jump on to your
obstacle you land on your rear foot / crank? The reason I ask is because the
image I have in my head is of shots from Universe where, as memory serves and so
could be completely wrong, folk have their front foot planted and bring the
floating pedal up from the rear when jumping to complete the move. That being
the case it’s another matter of personal preference I guess. I’ll add it to my
dance routine next time out…

Cheers, Neil