I’ve noticed that the Onza unicycle also has a splined hub and cranks set. It’s much cheaper than the Yuni 20" Trials unicycle and seems like really good value. Is it worth paying the extra amount of money for the Yuni or should I just settle on the Onza one? I’m prepared to buy the Yuni one and I was almost certain about getting it until I saw this Onza unicycle. Is the Porfile hub and crankset worth the money?
Thanks,
Andrew Carter
the truth is nobody knows.
the reason that the profile hub is so expensive is that its made in america in a cnc machine shop buy a company that has a reputation so good that it can afford to charge the earth for its products (which do actualy kick ass)
the onza hub is prety much the same design as the profile and apart from that its not been arround long enough for it to be properly evaluated.
if nobody teats it we’ll never know how good it is.
even if there was a diference in the strengh of the two hubs the i reccon you’d realy need to be repeatedly landing 6foot drops with bad teqnique to appriciate it.
the frame is better on the onza. its a bit wider and made of cromo steel.
the seat on the onza is like a viscount but has a redesigned seat base that is confortable to hold onto that wont snap off like a miyata handle.
you can pay extra for the proven hub if you want. i would prefer to save some cash and get the onza, i ended up getting the profile hub, because i knew some one who was in america at the time and got away without paying shipping tax and vat.
The frame on the Onza is the same as a Yuni frame, exept the color.
One nice thing about the onza is the cranks are a slightly shorter, 140mm (which is still way to long for a 20"). The onza is a good solid feeling hub, but the hub/crank combination hasnt been tested nearly as much as the profile. you most likely will never, ever break a profile crank, whereas because we dont know how well the onza cranks will last with high abuse. someone who has more experience with the onza setup will have to help you there. It is also likely that you would never bend an onza either. Both would probably work well for you. Hope this helps a little, and gets others to help out more…
the frame is a bit wider and made of cromo
although you’d have to look hard to tell the diference
they do look nearly identical
my crank opinion is diferent,
i like my cranks long, before i had my profile hub i ran my 20" trials uni on 150mm cranks.
they do hit the ground occasionaly but once you get used to that theyre great, you can ride up much steeper slopes and land drops more easily.
you get more leverage with longer cranks so if you land a drop and you’re feet aren’t level you need to use less force to straighten up
the other thing to my mind is the weak point on the profile is the hub body, from what i’ve seen of the hub body on the onza it looks like its better made (although it doesn’t look as cool)
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the part that sucks about the profile hub is the aluminium hub body,
incidently the hub body is n’t covered by the profile lifetime warranty.
i wonder if they do replacement hub bodies?
i was talking to the bloke from g-sport bmx where i recently bought a gland spoke guard for my trials unicycle and a bar end for my reeder handle ( called rather ireverently a “bell end”) see my post entitled “i discovered the g-sport gland”
he reccons that if i ever do break my profile hub he could attatch some spoke flanges directly to the axle for me.
The axle on the Onza trials uni is the same as they use on their BMX’s and, so I hear, they haven’t broke yet. Only time will tell on the uni but I’d go for the Onza though I’d prefer it with a KH saddle.
Gary
the nice thing about shorter cranks is that if you have to ride to the trials session (as I do, every time) it is much better to have shorter cranks.
I guess it’s me, but I hate cranks being longer than 130mm on a 20", period, so the longer they are, the more they annoy me. I probably do more turning, and I hit the ground with 125’s a couple times a ride. or maybe im just picky…
The Frames are different? Well it’s not really noticable.
i aggree max, shorter cranks are nicer for actualy riding your unicycle allong the street, and for idling and for juggling on your unicycle.
i’m actualy getting a freestyle unicycle because the things that made a good trials unicycle arn’t the same things that make a good freestyle unicycle
an onza tyre and a reeder handle are other things that realy get in the way when doing freestyle tricks on my trials uni. the nimbus II frame is also quite wide and more likley to give you black and blue knees. and as for the bmx pedals…
i was in the same situation when purchasing my trials unicycle, but i went with the profile setup… mainly beacause it has the warrenty and there were reports of some people bending the Onza hubs on the north shore rides.
I agree with the longer crank sizes fro trials and shorter for freestyle. this is mainly an issue of torque.
Ewan,
What freestyle unicycle are you getting?
Nikki
‘m_extreme_uni’ said: … mainly beacause it has the warrenty and there were reports of some people bending the Onza hubs on the north shore rides.
Can you any more detail on these reports? If I’ve saved up the money for the Yuni trials unicycle then I don’t want to buy a cheaper one and realise later on that I should’ve got the more expensive one. If something breaks, it would mean spending a lot more money to replace it.
Also, I think I’d prefer to get the longer cranks for trials, etc. and put up with them for freestyle. What ‘evilewan’ said was interesting about longer cranks being better for drops and I think that’s a really important issue that I should consider. I’ve decided to order whichever unicycle I end up getting by about the end of this week or the start of next week.
Re: Onza/Yuni Trials Comparison?
The Onza frame is NOT the same as a Yumi or Nimbus II frame it is made from
CrMo.
Roger
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> The frame on the Onza is the same as a Yuni frame, exept the color.
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> One nice thing about the onza is the cranks are a slightly shorter,
> 140mm (which is still way to long for a 20"). The onza is a good solid
> feeling hub, but the hub/crank combination hasnt been tested nearly as
> much as the profile. you most likely will never, ever break a profile
> crank, whereas because we dont know how well the onza cranks will last
> with high abuse. someone who has more experience with the onza setup
> will have to help you there. It is also likely that you would never
> bend an onza either. Both would probably work well for you. Hope this
> helps a little, and gets others to help out more…
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Re: Onza/Yuni Trials Comparison?
The person who the talk about was Will Stephens. He bent a crank slightly
and is has not stopped him riding it at all. But please remember this is
Will! He bends everything, he even bent the best that DM can produce! If
he rode a profile he would bend the standard cranks I am certain. He is
ridiculously hard on the hubs and cranks so it is not a surprise at all.
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> ‘m_extreme_uni’ said: … mainly beacause it has the warrenty and there
> were reports of some people bending the Onza hubs on the north shore
> rides.
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> Can you any more detail on these reports? If I’ve saved up the money
> for the Yuni trials unicycle then I don’t want to buy a cheaper one and
> realise later on that I should’ve got the more expensive one. If
> something breaks, it would mean spending a lot more money to replace
> it.
>
> Also, I think I’d prefer to get the longer cranks for trials, etc. and
> put up with them for freestyle. What ‘evilewan’ said was interesting
> about longer cranks being better for drops and I think that’s a really
> important issue that I should consider. I’ve decided to order whichever
> unicycle I end up getting by about the end of this week or the start of
> next week.
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Thanks, that’s really helpful. So would recommend me getting the Onza or the Yuni?
get the onza its black and doesents cost the earth and has a cromo frame.
i also suspect that the onza unicycle that will bent the crank on was the prototype he was riding at bjc 2002.
david pozantner told me he broke the all the profile prototypes
prototypes break, its what their for.
if it doesent break in destruction testing ( like giving in to will, from what i hear) youve overdesigned it
the only reason i ended up getting the profile was because the price gap enden up being much smaller, through pure luck.
also the consideration i had was that i already had a trials unicycle, only the hub needed replaced, if i’d bought the onza i’d have ended up with two trials unicycles and probably waited and bought an onza hub for the old one when they became available.
i’m still planning a muni 24" with onza hub. all i need is an onza hub and a good excuse and a pocket full of cash…
my new freestyle unicycle.
i’m getting roger davies to put one together for me from the finest unicycle parts from around the globe,
semcycle xl frame:
this is about the best flat top frame you can get. flat top is exelent for one foot and gliding skills.
i wanted to go for the sem deluxe frame but no flat top.
i was thinking about a nimbus II frame but i recon its a bit wide for the stuff i’m working on uni spins and the like
primo hula hoop rim:
a high quality bmx rim that many pro bmxers use,
roger has got these in stock,
primo “the wall” tyre:
has a grip surface that extends all the way around the tyre, perfect for freestyle.
a 48spoke suzue hub: roger tells me this is the best cotterless hub available, and he knows about unicycles.
primo spokes, well they’ll make the rim and tyre feel at home.
for cranks i’m trying to decide between standard bycycle euro cranks 125mm or some posh cranks that roger is trying to tempt me with.
for pedals i’m going to get odessy twisted pc pedals, theyre like the regular twisted pedals but theyre plastic and don’t hurt so much. i’ve been riding with platform pedals like forever so i’m loath to go back.
i’m going to use the viscount seat from my girraffe untill i can get a velo seat. or maybee a miyata. something that won’t hurt my hands when i grab it and somethig that won’t hurt my ass when i’m gliding. but most of all i’m not going to have a reeder handle on it, for trials and muni i’d never be without one but for freestyle their a liablilty.
i’ll get myself one of those nice seat clamps that are realy low profile and use two allen keys i don’t like being hit by chunks of metal in my knee when i try and do a trick
i hope hearing about my perfect freestyle unicycle helps,
if i was buying a whole unicycle i’d be tempted to go for a semcycle deluxe.
Re: Re: Onza/Yuni Trials Comparison?
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Originally posted by Roger Davies
[B]The Onza frame is NOT the same as a Yumi or Nimbus II frame it is made from
CrMo.
Roger
The UK’s Unicycle Source
I am asuming your saying that the onza frame is CrMo, and the nimbus/yuni is not. is that right?
I am going to agree here. Mostly because it’s cheaper, it will still last a very long time, unless your landing 7’ drops constantly. Plus, it’s got the Dx32 rim instead of the Monty one, and it’s all black!
Go Profile!!! no one yet knows that the Onza will last and your in Austrialia,not the best place to be if there is a recall or parts needed.
yeah
From what ive heard, the onza is just a profile without a warranty. Im no expert but i would go for the onza. It looks cool, and its cheaper.
i suspect that the profie warranty doesent cover “extreme use”
has anybody ever had a replacement from profile?
in the uk its hard enough to get a profile anyway, i literaly had mine smugled through customs.
here in the u.k. for a few quid more than a profile yuni you could buy two
onzas.
and its not that far off in the states.
your’ shipping to australia anyway, you might be as well checking what will be cheaper.
on the std yuni/profile you get plastic pedals.
plus the onza tyre is much nicer. montys are very badly made, or at least the ones i’ve seen. in comparison.anyway.