Hi I have been riding MUni for a few months now. I have a Nimbus 26" muni, it is really good for the longer trails as I can ride it for a long time without stopping but on the more technical trails I have found the bigger wheel offers less maneuverability and it is also heavier and harder to hop. Because of this i am thinking of buying a 24" MUni, the two that look most appealing are the 24" Nimbus Oracle with disk brake and the Kris Holm 24"
At the moment I am leaning towards the Nimbus Oracle because it has a disk brake.
I was wondering if anyone who owns or has ridden either of them could advise me which to get.
I’m a bit curious as to the weight difference. I have a nimbus 26 and that is one heavy beast when compared to my wife’s KH24. I understand that the frame on the oracle is aluminum so I figure the oracle series is fairly equivalent to the KH in terms of weight?
Before you buy a new uni, have you tried a different tire? The Nimbus muni comes with a heavy 3" tire. I think if you get something like a Maxxis Ardent, which is almost half the weight, you’ll feel a big difference in the way the uni rides.
I had a Nimbus 26 and sold it for a Kris Holms 26, there is a big difference, go with the Kris Holms, you won’t look back ever. Weight difference is about 5 or 6 lbs, also go with a 2.5 tire. Kris Holms has a brake option. I like the brake better. Thats my 2 cents worth. I just got off the trail, on a 2 hour ride, and what a joy the KH muni is.
I’d take the oracle, but then I’m a round crown kinda guy…
FWIW, from looking at UDC UK’s specs, both of those uni’s come with a Duro, and the Oracle is actually lighter at 6.7kg, as opposed to the KH at 6.9kg.
I have not ridden a 24 kh, however I received a 24 oracle a little over a week ago and I am having an absolute blast with it in our local technical trails. I’ve had no issue with it at all.
That accurately describes most non-oracle nimbus models. The non-oracle models have steel frames and run $350USD. The oracle nimbus models use aluminum frames and run about $650USD. I’ve heard the oracles are as light as their KH counterparts.
Well, I think if you want to go for the more tried and true brand that would be Kris Holm. I really like the KH crown, as you can put your feet on it nicely, but if you are using it for muni that isn’t needed. I would go for the Kris Holm and if you really want a brake you could add one later. The Kris Holm also comes with a more expensive saddle and better cranks.
I wouldn’t buy another kh. I’ve had far too many kh branded parts fail now. That said I’ve also snapped a few nimbus bits but they were much cheaper so it was less irksome.
I’m a fan of brakes for muni. If you want them too then you’ll need to factor in the extra costs if you want to add a magura or disk to the kh. The extra parts soon add up.
It’s a toss up IMO
KH has a wider rim (47mm), can add a disk break (or rim if u already have it), and its compatible for upgrading to a geared hub. Slightly more likely to hit knees on from w/ side hops (I’ve never hit mine), comes w/ a more comfortable seat & adjustable post.
Oracle - a narrower rim (42mm) comes w/ internal disk so less $ & less damage prone (I’ve heard of no probs w/ KH’s external disk though).
Qu-Ax ~ frame to KH, internal brake, norrowish rim (40mm), 48 spokes so prob a stronger wheel but most think it’s overkill.
I have jut a few questions regarding the brake and the seat.
On the oracle the disk of the brake is mounted inside the frame and it is attached via the bearing holder.
If i where to mount a brake on the Kris Holm would the disk go inside or outside of the frame and where would it attach?
And if it where to be mounted outside of the frame dose this mean your leg caches on it and is it more likely to bend/break if i fell off and it hit something?
also people have mentioned the seat. if i got the oracle would i be able to detach the break from the oracle seat and attach it to the other seat? also would the Kris Holm freeride seat be the best one?
The easiest way to add a disk break to the KH it would be on the outside of the frame. The KH comes with spirit cranks which have points to attach a disk break to. The KH frame has mounts welded on for the rest of the break. For more info on disk breaks inside versus outside the frame check out this thread
The nimbus and KH saddles use the same seat base, so as far as I know you should be just fine putting a KH saddle on an oracle.
If ordering from UDC, you can specify a KH seat for some extra dough, and they’ll mount it for you. But yeah, you can swap seats till your hearts content, it’s pretty easy to do.
As far as brake rotors are concerned, I think the general concensus is that outboard rotors like on the KH are ‘more likely’ to bend from being hit by a rock or something, but the actual chance of that happening is nil. I con’t recall hearing of any issues with that.
Seat choice is personal and only you can decide which one is best. I got a Freeride because that’s what a lot of people used for Muni, but when I rode the Street on my 36er, I wish I’da gotten a Street for my Muni to begin with (if that made sense). But if you flatten your seat, no matter what you have, it’ll be better and more comfortable… Just sayin’.
