New KH unicycle?

Hey, I was surfing Kris Holm’s web page, and it said this in the “My Ride” section:

“Coming soon… The first high-end signature pro-model unicycles ever built by a major bike manufacturer! Over the past year I have worked with Norco Bicycles and Velo Enterprises (a seat manufacturer) to produce a 20” trials/street freestyle unicycle, a 24" mountain unicycle and a really comfortable seat. These should be super cool, totally bomproof, and not too expensive either! They’ll be sold by bikeshops and Unicycle.com, available August 2002. "

Has anyone heard anything about these new unicycles? I knew about the saddle, but not about new unicycles coming out. If anyone knows anything about the specs or the price, or if they are coming out at all, please let me know! I would really like to get one if they are coming out.

Re: New KH unicycle?

In article <cybeross.8okbm@timelimit.unicyclist.com>,
cybeross <cybeross.8okbm@timelimit.unicyclist.com> writes:
>
> Has anyone heard anything about these new unicycles?

The talk about the Norco Kris Holm Mountain unicycle predates all
the recent Velo seat talk by about 8 months. Googol will remember
it all though; ask it about “+norco +kris +unicycle”. I’ve been
wondering about it here from time to time too.

Yesterday I started bugging Norco about it. At first they said
“oh yes, you can order it right now.” After digging a little
deeper, it seems that “there is no stock at this time.” I was
quoted CAN$199.00, which strikes me as a fine deal, but that
could be as bogus as the rest of what they had to say. They
still owe me another e-mail, so maybe the guy I’m talking to will
actually find out what the status is before replying, instead of
just making stuff up.

Kris hangs out here, of course, and he sometimes knows what’s
on Norco’s radar screen WRT the models named after him.

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Re: New KH unicycle?

Norco unicycles,haha,garbage,waste your 199.00.It’ll be low end junk for
sure.

tv
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>
> Hey, I was surfing Kris Holm’s web page, and it said this in the “My
> Ride” section:
>
> “Coming soon… The first high-end signature pro-model unicycles ever
> built by a major bike manufacturer! Over the past year I have worked
> with Norco Bicycles and Velo Enterprises (a seat manufacturer) to
> produce a 20” trials/street freestyle unicycle, a 24" mountain unicycle
> and a really comfortable seat. These should be super cool, totally
> bomproof, and not too expensive either! They’ll be sold by bikeshops
> and Unicycle.com, available August 2002. "
>
> Has anyone heard anything about these new unicycles? I knew about the
> saddle, but not about new unicycles coming out. If anyone knows
> anything about the specs or the price, or if they are coming out at all,
> please let me know! I would really like to get one if they are coming
> out.
>
>
> –
> cybeross - three tyme speling be champeon
>
> -Ross
>
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> do! We do!”
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I’m wondering if the new norco uni will be as strong as the current kh uni. I certainly hope that they didn’t cut back on quality in any way just to pump more of them out there, though I’m almost positive they did. Anyone know for sure? Or do we just have to wait til the end of August if we’re lucky?

in the june 2002 unicycle.uk.com newsletter it said:

“Norco Unicycles will be available from the end of July, these were designed by Kris Holme and come with splined hubs etc.”

what i’m interested in here is the fact they are supposed to have splined hubs, what kind of splined hubs? could anyone enlighten me?

next year i hope to build a 26" muni and i’d prefer not to have to shell out for annother profile hub.

Re: New KH unicycle?

— tvoth <tvoth@netidea.com> wrote:
> Norco unicycles,haha,garbage,waste your 199.00.It’ll be low end junk for
> sure.

Actually they should be good. In the past Norco hasn’t put much (any) energy into unicycle design
because, as much as we’d like to think otherwise, there wasn’t enough sales volume to support
larger scale mass production. Last year Norco stuck a better rim and tire on their regular uni
basically as an experiment to see if it would sell, without putting in any R&D expenses. It sold
well but of course the cheap axle didn’t hold up and they got a lot of flak for it from
unicyclists (the customer service people told me they get as many calls about unicycles now as any
of their bike models!).

That’s changed now. I worked with Norco to design a good frame, and with Velo to make a good
comfortable seat. The cranks are splined BMX cranks and aren’t quite as high-end as the Profile,
but are MUCH stronger than regular cranks and much less expensive than Profiles. The 24" version
is brake compatible. I’ll post some pictures soon.

-Kris.

>
> tv
> “cybeross” <cybeross.8okbm@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote in message
> news:cybeross.8okbm@timelimit.unicyclist.com
> >
> > Hey, I was surfing Kris Holm’s web page, and it said this in the “My
> > Ride” section:
> >
> > “Coming soon… The first high-end signature pro-model unicycles ever
> > built by a major bike manufacturer! Over the past year I have worked
> > with Norco Bicycles and Velo Enterprises (a seat manufacturer) to
> > produce a 20” trials/street freestyle unicycle, a 24" mountain unicycle
> > and a really comfortable seat. These should be super cool, totally
> > bomproof, and not too expensive either! They’ll be sold by bikeshops
> > and Unicycle.com, available August 2002. "
> >
> > Has anyone heard anything about these new unicycles? I knew about the
> > saddle, but not about new unicycles coming out. If anyone knows
> > anything about the specs or the price, or if they are coming out at all,
> > please let me know! I would really like to get one if they are coming
> > out.
> >
> >
> > –
> > cybeross - three tyme speling be champeon
> >
> > -Ross
> >
> > “Who controls the british crown? Who keeps the metric system down! We
> > do! We do!”
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> >
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Re: New KH unicycle?

— tvoth <tvoth@netidea.com> wrote:
> Norco unicycles,haha,garbage,waste your 199.00.It’ll be low end junk for
> sure.

Actually they should be good. In the past Norco hasn’t put much (any) energy into unicycle design
because, as much as we’d like to think otherwise, there wasn’t enough sales volume to support
larger scale mass production. Last year Norco stuck a better rim and tire on their regular uni
basically as an experiment to see if it would sell, without putting in any R&D expenses. It sold
well but of course the cheap axle didn’t hold up and they got a lot of flak for it from
unicyclists (the customer service people told me they get as many calls about unicycles now as any
of their bike models!).

That’s changed now. I worked with Norco to design a good frame, and with Velo to make a good
comfortable seat. The cranks are splined BMX cranks and aren’t quite as high-end as the Profile,
but are MUCH stronger than regular cranks and much less expensive than Profiles. The 24" version
is brake compatible. I’ll post some pictures soon.

-Kris.

>
> tv
> “cybeross” <cybeross.8okbm@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote in message
> news:cybeross.8okbm@timelimit.unicyclist.com
> >
> > Hey, I was surfing Kris Holm’s web page, and it said this in the “My
> > Ride” section:
> >
> > “Coming soon… The first high-end signature pro-model unicycles ever
> > built by a major bike manufacturer! Over the past year I have worked
> > with Norco Bicycles and Velo Enterprises (a seat manufacturer) to
> > produce a 20” trials/street freestyle unicycle, a 24" mountain unicycle
> > and a really comfortable seat. These should be super cool, totally
> > bomproof, and not too expensive either! They’ll be sold by bikeshops
> > and Unicycle.com, available August 2002. "
> >
> > Has anyone heard anything about these new unicycles? I knew about the
> > saddle, but not about new unicycles coming out. If anyone knows
> > anything about the specs or the price, or if they are coming out at all,
> > please let me know! I would really like to get one if they are coming
> > out.
> >
> >
> > –
> > cybeross - three tyme speling be champeon
> >
> > -Ross
> >
> > “Who controls the british crown? Who keeps the metric system down! We
> > do! We do!”
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > cybeross’s Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1045
> > View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/19612
> >
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Re: New KH unicycle?

— cybeross <cybeross.8xe5c@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote:
>
> I’m wondering if the new norco uni will be as strong as the current kh
> uni. I certainly hope that they didn’t cut back on quality in any way
> just to pump more of them out there, though I’m almost positive they
> did.

The answer to the above question is that the quality in general is good but some parts were made
offshore to reduce cost. Here are some comparisons to the current KH unicycle (which is expensive
and hand made):

Frame: Just as good, actually a little better.

Seat: Better than the Miyata.

Rim: Alex DX32 (ie really good)

Tire: Comes with a Duro 24x3" which is decent (would have preferred the Gazz) but the Gazzolodi
is not available anymore.

Hub: Not quite as nice as the Profile, but MUCH stronger than any 4 square taper hub. Should be
similar quality to the Onza hub. It’s also sold separately from the unicycle for anyone who wants
to upgrade their other unicycles.

Seatpost: The Norco comes with a 27.2mm steel seatpost that bolts to the seat. There will be a
Wilder rails bracket available soon on Unicycle.com that fits the Velo seat. This bracket doesn’t
come with the Norco due to expense but I HIGHLY recomend getting it because you will be able to
adjust your seat angle and also use a lighter seatpost. Also, the Wilder brake attachment is way
more elegant than what the Norco comes with (a tube welded to the seatpost on the 24" model).

So in summary it’s a really good unicycle but you will still want to upgrade a couple of things if
you want the absolutely best components.

-Kris.

>
> –
> cybeross - three tyme speling be champeon
>
> -Ross
>
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> do! We do!”
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Re: New KH unicycle?

Hi,

One more thing:

Norco is going to sell one less expensive model of the 20" trials unicycle that comes with a
regular 4-square taper hub (other than the hub it’s identical to the others).

Unless you are under 80 lbs, or just want to hang out at 7 Eleven with the unicycle while wearing
cool skateboard clothes, I’d highly recommend getting the more expensive model with the splined
hub.

-Kris.

— evilewan <evilewan.8xibc@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote:
>
> in the june 2002 unicycle.uk.com newsletter it said:
>
> “Norco Unicycles will be available from the end of July, these were
> designed by Kris Holme and come with splined hubs etc.”
>
> what i’m interested in here is the fact they are supposed to have
> splined hubs, what kind of splined hubs? could anyone enlighten me?
>
> next year i hope to build a 26" muni and i’d prefer not to have to shell
> out for annother profile hub.
>
>
> –
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>
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Re: Re: New KH unicycle?

now that i’ve shelled out $400 bucks for one of your black trails uni frames,I must know how the Norco could be “slightly” better?

No disrespect to Unicycle.com but will there be any Canadian distributors?

Re: New KH unicycle?

In article <Ysm29.3533$wh1.881@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
gbuchana@gromit.dhs.org (Gardner) writes:

> They still owe me another e-mail…
>

Okay, I got an E-Mail from Norco today. It goes like this:

> Re the Kris Holm unicycles - these are in production
> now and should be available by September. They will be
> the new 2003 model with the new frame , new saddle and
> some other new parts.
>
> We will update our website with details when they arrive.

No real news except the “September” date. Also no
indication of price. I will buy one of these. I just
hope my old uni manages to hold out until then.

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Drewincycle:

Norco is a Canadian Company so I’m sure they will distribute it themselves in Canada. I know what you mean about cross-border ordering.

I’m excited about this one.
I bought my United/Monty trials uni back in in June 2001. I’ve barely been able to ride it recently because of weak cranks. It came with Lascos, well we know about them, and last November I was able to order some 127mm steel cranks for $12 CDN from my LBS. I bought two pairs, but the problem is that they last only for like one three foot drop or a weeks worth of stairs. Not being able to ride is so frustrating. I was waiting for some cranks that are in between el cheapo and profile, but there isn’t anything available. I recently went to UNICON for a couple days, and had to bring my unicycle with really bent cranks. Argh! No fun at all!

As this comes from Norco, I’m sure it will be reasonably priced. I’d like a 20 and a 24 but that might be wishful thinking…

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Re: Re: New KH unicycle?

Kris,

I thought the Duro is only a 2" tire. Do they now have a 3" or is that a typo? And as for the Gazz, I know they were “supposed” to go away but I thought that was no longer a problem?

If it is the case that you meant 2.0" Duro … well, what about that Cheng Shin 2.25" tire they sell under the name “Nimbus II Tyre” over on the UK unicycle.com?

Oh well, thanks for answering any questions.

Lewis

Re: Re: Re: New KH unicycle?

Awww… come on Jagur- I’m sure you can see how it would be slightly better if the frame cost $100 less…:wink:

Christopher

Re: Re: Re: New KH unicycle?

Duro 24x3

or

Ask Mr. Google

-C

Re: Re: Re: Re: New KH unicycle?

Ah, OK. I mistakenly presumed that the Duro was the street model, when really Duro is the base label and Metro is the street model, and Kris was talking about a downhill tire.

As for Mr. Googol (heh), censored.

Lewis

Re: Re: Re: Re: New KH unicycle?

[QUOTE]
Originally posted by rhysling
Awww… come on Jagur- I’m sure you can see how it would be slightly better if the frame cost $100 less…;)QUOTE]

yeah that better be the reason…i was just wondering if “slightly” meant i wasted my money and sould have waited…

i’m still waiting for an answer from on-high… :thinking:

Are you saying you can’t find good cranks or you can’t find good cranks in your price range. I’ve heard good things about Monty and Kooka cranks (well beyond the $12 CDN range, though). What are your thoughts about those?