need a bit of help...

Can anyone here point me to some resource site you are familiar with that
describes why web-hosters-that-disallow-telnet is such a crap. I’m working
on web project with a local company who mistakenly chose a
no-telnet-allowed hosting provider. The self-proclaimed techies at this
hoster are saying that they cannot allow telnet and cgi-bin access. Duh?
I’ve already given both my client and the clueless-hoster a very detailed
message indicating why telnet or SSH and cgi-bin access are very
important. I just want to find a web site or two to use as a 3rd party
reference for these cavemen to look at - to strengthen my position.

Again, any/all help is highly appreciated.


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“Peter N. Go” <peter@icthus.net> wrote in message
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> Can anyone here point me to some resource site you are familiar with
> that describes why web-hosters-that-disallow-telnet is such a crap. I’m
> working on web project with a local company who mistakenly chose a
> no-telnet-allowed hosting provider. The self-proclaimed techies at this
> hoster are saying that they cannot allow telnet and cgi-bin access. Duh?
> I’ve already given both my client and the clueless-hoster a very
> detailed message indicating why telnet or SSH and cgi-bin access are
> very important. I just want to find a web site or two to use as a 3rd
> party reference for these cavemen to look at - to strengthen my
> position.
>
> Again, any/all help is highly appreciated.

http://www.awtrey.com/support/webhost/ftpcgi.php3 - something like this?

Leonid S. Knyshov

“Leonid S. Knyshov at Home” wrote:
>
> http://www.awtrey.com/support/webhost/ftpcgi.php3 - something like this?

Not quite - I was hoping more of a bash-the-telnetless-hoster type of
write-up. Thanks, btw.


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On Sat, 07 Jul 2001 10:27:26 +0800 Peter N. Go said…

> Can anyone here point me to some resource site you are familiar with
> that describes why web-hosters-that-disallow-telnet is such a crap. I’m
> working on web project with a local company who mistakenly chose a
> no-telnet-allowed hosting provider. The self-proclaimed techies at this
> hoster are saying that they cannot allow telnet and cgi-bin access. Duh?
> I’ve already given both my client and the clueless-hoster a very
> detailed message indicating why telnet or SSH and cgi-bin access are
> very important. I just want to find a web site or two to use as a 3rd
> party reference for these cavemen to look at - to strengthen my
> position.

Personally, I would just tell the client they will have to get a new host.
Its likely to be a whole bunch easier then changing the host’s mind.


John R. Marshall JRM Studios.com - http://www.jrmstudios.com The
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“John R. Marshall” wrote:
>
> Personally, I would just tell the client they will have to get a
> new host. Its likely to be a whole bunch easier then changing the
> host’s mind.

Done that already at the beginning. I’ve given them my bottomline - if
they don’t give me a server with MY minimum requireed features, I’m out.
Thing is - this hoster is a political choice made by the company hiring me
(long story).


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“John R. Marshall” wrote:
>
> Its likely to be a whole bunch easier then changing the host’s mind.

BTW, I’m not trying to change the hoster’s mind. I’m trying to point out
how ludicrous the no-telnet and no-cgi-bin-access policies are. Just FYI

  • they (hoster) charged my client about 4 times more than what JD charges
    for an e-commerce site.


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Oooooh, time to raise my rent!!!


JD

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Peter N. Go wrote in message <3B46CCB4.2F6E98CE@icthus.net>…
>“John R. Marshall” wrote:
>>
>> Its likely to be a whole bunch easier then changing the host’s mind.
>
>BTW, I’m not trying to change the hoster’s mind. I’m trying to point out
>how ludicrous the no-telnet and no-cgi-bin-access policies are. Just FYI
>- they (hoster) charged my client about 4 times more than what JD charges
> for an e-commerce site.
>
>–
>Peter N. Go - mailto:peter@icthus.net

>http://CGI-City.net http://BannerBuild.com http://BudgetWebHost.com
>http://NewsCuts.com http://RegisterGuy.com http://ZenSearch.com
>http://FreeMailWeb.com

> Accept Credit Cards Online. Run An Affiliate Program.
> http://www.icthus.net/cgi-city/clickbank.html

“Peter N. Go” <peter@icthus.net> wrote in message
news:3B46CCB4.2F6E98CE@icthus.net
> “John R. Marshall” wrote:
> >
> > Its likely to be a whole bunch easier then changing the host’s mind.
>
> BTW, I’m not trying to change the hoster’s mind. I’m trying to point out
> how ludicrous the no-telnet and no-cgi-bin-access policies are. Just FYI
> - they (hoster) charged my client about 4 times more than what JD
> charges for an e-commerce site.

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