I’m against picketing, but I don’t know how to show it
Two and a half reasons to tip:
1: If you never tip, you have no way of expressing dissatisfaction with bad service. Sure you can leave two-cents to show that you didn’t forget to tip, but then the servers know that if they treat you poorly next time they will have an easier job and will get more money from you.
2: Have you ever noticed that the coffee from people who know you don’t tip tastes different from the coffee from people who think you do tip? You may think it’s your imagination, but it’snot.
3(ish): You’re at a restaurant with some friends, the attractive waitress (who thinks you’re hot) is listening to your conversation while she waits the tables. She makes a mental note as you gripe about unoriginal unicycling comments you’ve heard. Finally, as you leave, she heads over to ask for your number, but sees that you left no tip and turns away. Instead of a storybook romance ending in “and they lived happily ever after…” she goes to the National Waiter and Waitress Convention and spreads the word. Because of you, no unicyclist can get a cup of coffee anywhere without hearing “Where’s your other wheel?” and “More coffee for the clown!”
The server never breaks their back for a customer, they do their job. They are paid to take my order and then bring it to me. I shouldn’t have to pay for their wages, it’s like paying taxes for things that don’t benefit me directly.
Besides, waiters have to pay taxes on their tips, so I’m saving them money.
All right Pope, I’ve made the mistake of peeking into Just Conversation again, and I just can’t stay out.
You are still young. You have a choice about whether you grow up as an uncultured boor or not (even if you don’t have to look those words up you can still be an uncultured boor).
You can try to change the multi-billion (trillion?) dollar restaurant and service industry, but it may take most of your lifetime. Good luck, and I will definitely vote with you. But in the meantime…
In Japan, you don’t tip. The business/service/wage environment is not set up that way. No tips and generally very good to excellent service (I was there 18 days). The workers in Japan are paid on a structure that doesn’t include tips, and it’s kind of an insult for you to give them (I’m explaining this for the people who might feel guilty). By tipping you are suggesting their service isn’t up to par at all times. That’s the Japanese way.
You have no idea how much back-breaking the server does. Ever worked in a restaurant, or fast food? I already know you haven’t, because you have no idea. I have worked in ice cream, which isn’t as hard, but I have plenty of friends who tell me what hard work food service is. Try it for a few months (if you can last that long) and see if you have the same opinion.
You do not live in Japan. The pay structure for people in tip-oriented jobs includes an assumption of tips. That is the American way. Like it or not, you live here. Don’t tip, and you will embarrass the people you dine with. They may not say anything to you, but they’ll sure talk to each other.
You already do (or will) pay taxes for things that don’t benefit you directly. When you tip, it’s for the person right in front of you. When at a restaurant, it also usually goes to the people you don’t necessarily see, like the bussers, hostess, etc.
As for the guy in the bathroom, I have to agree with Bugman. Please don’t help me, and get a job in a better environment! Usually I only see these guys in Casino bathrooms, where the cigarette smoke is intense.
Other jobs are built on tips as well. I used to be a pizza driver. Dominos pays you on a structure that assumes you will get tips, and basically assumes your car costs nothing to operate. This is why their stores invariably have “Drivers Wanted” signs out front. Regular customers who don’t tip don’t get their pizzas as fast, believe me. And they don’t deserve them. Who wants to go to a house where you know they don’t tip? You I guess. Try that job.
Or you can avoid all jobs that involve living off tips. Not a bad idea career-wise, but they can be great starter jobs, to teach you the value of work, which you seem relatively new to. But in any case, you still live in a culture where tipping is the accepted norm.
No, you missed the explanation. They pay tax on an estimated amount of tips, not what they actually get. They pay the same regardless of you.
We have been regulars at a local Friendly’s since before our daughter was born. For the past 5 years we’ve sat in the section of the same waitress who also works cleaning houses. She’s a single mother with a deadbeat ex-husband. She’s always been terrific to us.
When we bought our most recent car we gave her our used one.
Are you calling me a boring middle age, middle class, suburban, family man who maybe eats a few too many french (yes, FRENCH) fries (with HEINZ ketchup on them) or something? Why I oughta!
very wise,
very wise indeed
u don’t want to go back to a restaurant where u’ve become known as a non-tipper
watch ‘CHEATERS’ and simmilar surveilance footage shows if u don’t want to believe me
whatever u do, don’t go back to a restaurant where u’re known as a non-tipper
and don’t be served by a waitron u haven’t tipped in the past
(waitrons may forget the odd drink or side-order, but when it comes to non-tippers, they have elephantine memories)
even when he/she changes job and is now working at a restaurant where u haven’t not-tipped before, don’t be served by a waitron u did not tip in past
if u can’t afford to tip, u can’t afford to eat out
if/when u go to a restaurant where a 10% service charge is included in your bill (mostly continental europe i think), are u going to demand that they remove the service item from the bill?
i’ll pay money to watch u explain your position in a Paris cafe
get over yourself
start tipping
(go google the word ‘tithing’, tipping, u’ll see, is good for your soul)
I’ve considered the arguments and have decided that, until the laws change, I will tip the usual 15-20 percent. 15 for regular, 20 for above expectations, 5 for sub-par.
Next time I go out and pay, rest assured, I’ll do it.
I saw one where the bartender was relieving himself in someone’s drink. Right there at the bar. He just turned to face the wall, made like he was stirring. There are sickos out there, people!!