Hello,
I am still in the working progress of building a website…
It’s not that great, or useful, but I’m proud of myself since I made it with raw HTML code…
If you want to visit it:
www.angelfire.com/ny5/unicycle
Bye for now.
Email me you thoughts on how I could make it better at
-Bye
Hello again…
I’m replying to get this post back at the top.
I want people to go to my site at:
www.angelfire.com/ny5/unicycle
-bye
it’s coming along well, I’m not much a fan of the black background but other than that it is nice. Try to get some buttons or gifs to make it look more professional. and fix this typo:
UNICON XII (2004)
To be held July 24th through August 2nd. It might be held somewhere near Tokyo, Japan. Possibly even in the same facicities as the olympics!
I know the feeling of wanting people to respond to posts, I’m just doing my part.
-Jonathan Ware-
are you going to Moab?
Nope,
It’s too far away from me…
Thanks for the feedback
Joe, a couple of things. Blue text on black? I can’t read it without straining.
But unreadable text is a relatively minor thing compared to copyright violation. I’m pretty sure I did not give permission for you to use my images without a photo credit or at least a link to my Web site.
Always get permission first before using someone else’s intellectual property. Please take those images down until you’ve contacted me to request permission for their use.
I like the Gallery image from Unicycle.com with all the unicycles. Is that from ther paper catalog, or off the Web site? Did you ask permission to use their images?
john, you realy take copyright seriously don’t you?
if he starts calling himself
joe the unicyclone
then you can start to worry
Re: My Website
In article <evilewan.gi47a@timelimit.unicyclist.com>,
evilewan <evilewan.gi47a@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote:
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)john, you realy take copyright seriously don’t you?
Anyone who is serious about their artistic work has to take copyright
violations seriously.
)if he starts calling himself
)joe the unicyclone
)then you can start to worry
“unicyclone” would be more of a trademark violation than a copyright one.
-Tom
It’s not just the copyright issues, but he could have at least looked into the origins of the picture. What’s with the lousy caption?
“Some people near some unicycles in some town at some convention, eating lunch.”
The only way it could have been more vague is if he’d said “eating some food.”
-Jon
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i don’t take copyright seriously, however i don’t steal other peoples work either. apart from anything else its rude.
if i don’t want my material reproduced then i don’t make it available.
if i do make my “intelectual property” available, then it is in the public domain.
it doesent make me any less serious about my artistic work.
“copyright” is wrong as far as i’m concerned
its like turning up on an island planting a flag in it and saying “mine”
you can do it its just a bit greedy.
copyright is bad for free speech and free exchange of ideas,
and i don’t like the way that multinational comanies pay the governments in western countries to addopt adgendas that do not serve the people they are supposed to represent. (don’t understand? then search for “DMCA” on the web)
rudeness is one thing but i shall not invoke the tools of the corrupt to enforce my veiwpoint
Re: My Website
In article <evilewan.gi5tn@timelimit.unicyclist.com>,
evilewan <evilewan.gi5tn@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote:
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)if i do make my “intelectual property” available, then it is in the
)public domain.
This speaks for itself.
-Tom
Re: My Website
I’ll say that’s a lame caption! It’s not just Some people, it’s me and my
friends. It’s not Some town, it’s Santa Cruz. It’s not Some convention, it’s
California Muni Weekend '99. Why the old pictures? Why these? Why without
permission? I’d much rather see YOUR photos.
I see no reason to go to the trouble to put up a website like this without
some infomation (pictures, whatever) that you have to communicate. Sorry to
sound harsh, but I see none here. You asked for suggestions to make it
better - I’d say put up some unique content that has a chance of interesting
other people.
Good luck,
Nathan
“JonM” <JonM.gi4wa@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote in message
news:JonM.gi4wa@timelimit.unicyclist.com…
>
> It’s not just the copyright issues, but he could have at least looked
> into the origins of the picture. What’s with the lousy caption?
>
> “Some people near some unicycles in some town at some convention, eating
> lunch.”
>
> The only way it could have been more vague is if he’d said “eating some
> food.”
>
> -Jon
Re: Re: My Website
if something is in the public domain it cannot be held as prior art in a copyright claim.
the meaning of public domain with regards to copyright is that no-one is exercising copyright over it. it is free to be used.
if you want i’ll start releasing my work under the gnu fdl.
any objections other than pedantry?
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Make up your mind.
If someone has copyrighted their work, it is not in the public domain, it is copyrighted.
It’s nice that you’re so polite about it, but there are plenty of people who don’t give a rat’s butt about the “rudeness” of theft. Regardless of your opinions about “public domain” and “freedom of speech”, people have a right to expect proper credit for their work, as well as payment if they choose to demand it. You have the right to not buy their work, and go make your own. You also have the right to give it away for free, but that doesn’t give you the right to deny others charging for their work. If I “find” your unicycle outside your house, is it in the public domain, and so mine for the taking, however “rude” that may be?
Why do you hold the value of intellectual property so far beneath that of physical property?
Now evilewan, if you know what the GNU FDL is, you should know better than to equate it with a work being in the public domain. You should also know that by default, any work created in the US (or most countries, for that matter), is automatically copyrighted. Like it or not, that’s the way our society is set up.
This means that you should always assume that any work you come across that does not specify terms for redistribution is not freely redistributable. You may say you’ve placed all of your works in the public domain, but that’s a choice you can only make for yourself.
But even then, the issue is less about copyright violation, and more about tasteless appropriation and misrepresentation of someone else’s work. In a polite society, we ask before taking, unless notice is given that things are free for the taking. As Mr. Foss stated:
He’s indicating that he’s willing to let others use his works, provided that he is asked beforehand, and provided that he is attributed as the creator of said works. Those are the terms of his license. Respect them.
</rant mode off>
-Jon
Wow!!
I didn’t even think about copyrights.
Sorry JohnFoss
I’ll take those pictures off right away!!!
I’ll try to get some of me with a digital camera
Just please dont sue me:)
If anyone has any other comments BESIDES copyrights.
Please post.
-Joe
<<But unreadable text is a relatively minor thing compared to copyright violation. I’m pretty sure I did not give permission for you to use my images without a photo credit or at least a link to my Web site.
Always get permission first before using someone else’s intellectual property. Please take those images down until you’ve contacted me to request permission for their use. >>
Sheesh!!! I would have hoped that somebody I respected as much as John would have the heart in him to share his material!! I mean c’mon!! It was just a few pictures. Why be so harsh about it! If anything I’d be GLAD to see pictures of me or of anything I’ve done get around the internet. Man… that makes me so angry. Its not like hes taking credit or getting paid! I’m sure his only interest was informational.
GET OVER IT. Serious.
Re: My Website
In article <uniryder777.gjupa@timelimit.unicyclist.com>,
uniryder777 <uniryder777.gjupa@timelimit.unicyclist.com> wrote:
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)<<But unreadable text is a relatively minor thing compared to copyright
)violation. I’m pretty sure I did not give permission for you to use my
)images without a photo credit or at least a link to my Web site.
)
)Always get permission first before using someone else’s intellectual
)property. Please take those images down until you’ve contacted me to
)request permission for their use. >>
)
)Sheesh!!! I would have hoped that somebody I respected as much as John
)would have the heart in him to share his material!!
He has shared his material; it’s on the net, anyone can look at it.
What he is not doing is allowing someone to steal his material and post
it as if it were their own.
-Tom
but MUNI didn’t say it was his own! He didn’t say anything!
Which part was harsh? Joe put up some pictures on his site. I assumed he found them in the albums section of my site (hosted on Ofoto but only reached through my site, which contains copyright info). He asked for comments on his site. So I was letting him know he had some of my photos on there. As they were being used without permission, I asked him to take them down until he contacted me asking for permission. He so far has not chosen to do this.
Nothing on my Web site says I don’t share my material. I do all the time. My pictures have appeared in magazines, unicycling and juggling newsletters, and Web sites all over the world. With permission. This usually boils down to a photo credit in the form of my name and/or a link to my Web site.
This is not the first time my images have turned up on other peoples’ Web sites. Usually the users of the images were not aware of where they came from, or didn’t realize you aren’t supposed to just copy stuff onto your own site, and they either took them down or got permission from me right away.
You’re angry. I’m supposed to get over it. No, you get over it. I’m not angry. I’m offering Joe some feedback on his site, and what I hope will be a useful learning experience. By not giving credit on my images, he is indeed taking credit for my work. Those pictures are mine. If I sell them to Sports Illustrated next week (I wish), I don’t want Joe and his lawyer dad coming after me for getting paid for using an image off his Web site.
I do occasionally get paid for my unicycling images. I also invest lots of time, effort, and money in producing them. Joe wants to learn about making Web sites. Shouldn’t he learn about his aspect as well?
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Not the same thing. I am not claiming someone else’s island. Nor am I claiming a non-owned island that should be free for everyone to use.
Instead, I am claiming ownership of my image, created by me. This does not extend to your image, if you were standing next to me with your own camera. That would be your image. This would require that you were in the same location, purchased and brought your own camera, knew where to stand at the appropriate moment, how to operate your camera and set it for best results, how to compose an artistically pleasing image, and then perhaps to edit it in Photoshop to make it look better. Anyone is free to do this.
Since not everyone can be everywhere, I have thought of it as a purpose in my life to record the unicycling activities around me. I started doing this in 1980 for the USA Newsletter, and have spend a great deal of time, money, and effort over the years doing it.
Occasionally those images are published outside the unicycling community, in magazines and books. When this happens, I deserve any payment they choose to give me. Please explain why I don’t.
Without copyright, I would hoard all my images to myself, and not share them as openly as I do. The purpose of copyright law (basically, not including loopholes and other issues) is to protect the owner/creator of the work, so others don’t profit from it wrongly. Without copyright protection, artists wouldn’t be able to make a living doing what they do.
If you have issues with certain aspects of copyright law, I may agree with you there. But not on such sweeping statements.
To some degree yes. In that not everything can, or should in today’s world, be free. Movies aren’t free to produce, the big ones cost millions of dollars. They expect you to pay some kind of fee to see them, or else why make them?
I know you have larger issues with copyright concepts, but what we’re talking about here is at a very basic level. There are no corporations involved, just one person and his images. I don’t sell very many of them. But this should be my choice, not someone else’s. They are all mine to do with as I please.
I choose to make it easy for people to see my images. Well, as easy as the Ofoto site allows, which could be better. Go to this page for an expanation of my whys and hows of Ofoto:
http://www.unicycling.com/ofoto/browsing.htm
But making my pictures accessible and giving them away are not the same thing. I give them away all the time, but I ask for permission when they are republished.