My CEO makes more than I do, but I work hard

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Originally posted by Gilby
At least the opportunity is there at Wal-Mart for those that can’t type sentences which need to be read more than once to figure out what was intended to be said. (now I wonder if my sntence makes sense.)

Dear Abby: My CEO makes more than I do, but I work hard. Do I have a right to complain?

Billy

Re: My CEO makes more than I do, but I work hard

Dear Billy,

I work half as much as you, if that, but make nearly as much as your CEO. Why in the name of Christ are you asking me?

Abby

No. Wal-mart can pay you as much or as little as it likes, and can pay it’s CEO as much or as little as it likes. If you don’t like that, get a job some place else.

Just before I told Jerry: Shut up and drink your beer,
my Wal-Mart manager Jerry gave me this quote:

"The mark of your ignorance
is the depth of your belief in injustice and tragedy.

What the caterpillar calls the end of the world,
the master calls a butterfly."
–Richard Bach’s Illusions

Harper says I lost my right to complain about Wal-Mart when the Patriot Act came out.

Dear Billy:

Your CEO is in charge of a multinational corporation and has probably worked his ass off his entire life to get to that position and is rewarded for his hard work, and his fantastic strategies to lower costs and increase output.

Although you may very well have a high school diploma, you probably don’t even need one for the position you are filling.

you do the math.

Abby

I think there may be some contextual issues here but I still like the outcome. I think an airport security “service” should search you for complaints and complacency, certainly not conspiracy.

Dear Blabby-

I met a tall employee at WalMart riding around the store on a 20" unicycle with two Miyata seatpost extensions juggling three clubs. He paused briefly in the condom aisle and wrote, with spray paint, “Harper was here.” Should I report him to Jerry who is wise in these matters or just let it go?

-Trying to care in Seattle
-Almost making it
-Oops…missed it again

Where? Wal-mart put all the other stores out of business.

I used to have this knee-jerk reaction to complaints of salary and budget, but I had an enlightening conversation with a long-time employee of a large and well-established corporation that changed my tune:

Long-time employees at corporations develop skills that are specialized to that corporation, i.e. a Wal-mart employee after many years is trained to work at Wal-mart and nowhere else. Over those years these employees become vested in the company, earning raises, benefits, etc. that are only available to long-time employees. If such employees jumped back into the job market, they’d have to take a pay cut, lose their benefits, and have to compete against an ever-younger and ever-growing crowd of job applicants, including those fresh out of school with degree in hand.

The older employees have an immediate need to return to their salaries and benefits (i.e. caring for family, paying off mortgage, etc.), while the fresh young’uns don’t require as much of their new employers. This makes the “get a job some place else” creed quite unbearable. Most corporations will chose the young, independent applicant as they will cost much less (esp. in the short term) to employ, even if they’ve less specalized skills. The “older” applicant from a previous corporation will have to be re-trained into their job (old dog, new tricks) while being paid a higher salary (commensurate with experience is the usu. lingo).

When one enters the job market, they’re most likely to get an “entry level” job. Then, as time goes on, they move up in position and salary, until they realize they’re in such a muck: they’re being paid much less than people in similar positions at other companies, their bosses are being paid much more than they are, and they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place… so what choice do they have?

Where, then, is this “somewhere else” you recommend one becomes employed? Unless one is lucky enough to have an “in” at a “good” corporation, or a specialized degree or skill w/ comparable experience, there is not much choice for the common American entry-level worker looking for a lifetime career. Even for the “specialized” worker, the job pool is becoming further diluted with workers imported from overseas/borders and jobs being pushed off the continent.

There are plenty of jobs out there. The hard part is finding them, and getting hired. If one has worked at Wal-Mart to the point of being unable to function anywhere else, I still can’t figure out how that’s the fault of Wal-Mart. The same is true in many other industries. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and take the plunge. The big question is who’s going to control your life, you or someone else?

I can well understand where family and other committments make one unable to stand being without the salary for any period of time. The same was true for me in 1994 when I quit my (unimportant) job and moved to California. How could I do such a thing? I saved up first.

Sounds like the complainant needs to take night classes to learn to be a CEO, then run their own company and learn what it’s like to have employees! You’re trying to run a successful (and profitable) business, while your own people try to sue you for the strangest things!

By the way, we lose 40% of our employees every year. That’s called turnover. So there’s not that many OLD employees who have worked their way up.

I have more than one underemployed unicycle friends who have their CEO degree and are slinging tacos. That makes me think maybe that’s not the path for me.

Billy

Wal-Mart is a poor example to illustrate the point that was related to me, the employee I talked to has been working in a specialized scientific laboratory for 20+ years and I believe he really is locked into his position.

A good counterexample would be a food service worker. Whether you’re a waiter/waitress at Denny’s or TGI Friday’s, the work is the same. However there are a good number of industries (service, manufacturing, transportation to name a few) where the work is quite specialized and the developed skills are nontransferrable.

A good number of US Citizens are dependent on “the man” (in one manifestation or another) for their food and shelter, and not everyone is capable of running off and starting their own business (unless it’s something simple like washing car windows at stop lights or collecting soda cans from the side of the highway :stuck_out_tongue: ).

Think about the scores of people who haven’t more than a high school degree; my grandfather didn’t even finish high school, but through diligence he worked his way up to senior technician at a manufacturing plant. Had he lost his job there would be no way he could have been hired elsewhere, his skill set was developed almost entirely on the job. Granted, there are a lot of bone-head entry-level jobs out there but how many can be turned into a life-sustaining career?

The town I grew up in had two major factories, two strip malls, and a lot of coffee shops… your job options were labor or retail service, and if you were lucky, middle management. A good percentage of families were poor as dirt and no one had the option to search for a better place to work, heck, they’d never be able to afford moving out of town for that matter; it was up to the corporations that ran the factories to determine the wages, hence, the quality of life, of their employees.

I used to drive pizzas for Dominos. Ever see a Dominos Pizza place that didn’t have a Drivers Wanted sign in the window? That’s called serious turnover. They leave for a reason, but generally it’s not to be unemployed. The turnover jobs generally aren’t very specialized, and leave the person open to do similar work at many other places, if they can find it.

Very true. The CEO job is not only very hard, it’s also highly risky! No one to complain to if things don’t go your way, either…

Though not having the high school diploma would be a serious detriment, a smart employer would recognize his many years of experience, and they would count for something.

Certainly not driving for Dominos, or making McDonalds fries. But thousands upon thousands of people pass through those jobs every year, and manage to find better jobs down the line. They, or many of the low-level jobs at Wal Mart, are not necessarily intended to be careers.

Not really. How is it that thousands of people come to this country every year, with nothing, and many manage to make something of themselves? The first essential ingredient is taking the chance.

How did people survive during America’s great depression? Everyone was poor. No work in your town? Time to find a different town. The key element is choice. Do you want to let your local corporations make your choices, or are you willing to accept the consequences of taking a risk at improving your chances?

I am not tied down with a family and big debts, but twice in my life I have packed up my things and moved cross-country, to arrive in new places with no job, and very little money. Mine is a fairly weak example, but it was worth it both times.