music sets the tone

I’ve noticed while watching many many unicycling videos on the internet that the music can say many different things about the video. for instance. If it’s heavy metal and people are screaming into the microphone it makes it seem like the rider is just showing off. But if it’s a song that’s… somewhat happy? then the movie can change just like that. It could make a movie that you’re cranking out just to get on the internet, into a movie that started off as a ride around town when you discovered you just happened to have a video camera and turned into a masterpiece. My best example would be this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2811493868702093576&q=zack+baldwin&hl=en
sorry the link is pretty long, but if the music were different, the movie wouldn’t be the same.

Wow, I had never seen that video before. That was amazing. I can imagine some REALLY nasty falls on those first rocks. Anyway, I can se how the music helped the movie and riding flow.

That is Zacks part from Defect.

Defect? What’s Defect? Never heard of that one before.

It’s a dvd. supposed to be really good but I’ve never seen it.

Buy it. Now.

And if Zack Baldwin didn’t convince you to buy it, check out this section that I uploaded:

So now there are 3 sections of Defect on the internet…Xavier, Zack and Kaori. Soon there will be no need for anyone to buy it :roll_eyes:

ya… seeing all these scenes from defect is making me lean more towards getting universe 2. oh well.

Did Dan Heaton / Syko Productions give you permission to freely distribute their copyrighted content on your web page? If so, you need to include a note somewhere on your page that Syko owns the copyright to that video. If not, you’re breaking copyright law, violating section 6.2 of Myspace’s Terms of Service, and making Dan unhappy. Fess up, son!

I have permission on two accounts. First, Dan Heaton did give me permission to have the video uploaded, and I did give him credit for it on the site. Second, Kaori wanted me to upload so that she could put it on her myspace. I don’t have any inolvement with Zack’s section though.

I see that we’ve sort of gone off topic a little, partially because of me, so I apologize. But you are in fact correct, music largely affects the mood of the video. Whenever I get movie ideas, sometimes the hardest part is deciding the best music to use. It is under my assumption that when people make a video, they use their favorite songs by their favorite artists. Though it’s understandable that they would use it, sometimes the music they choose isn’t the best decision for the video’s sake. I have a few ideas for some videos I want to make, but the songs I choose isn’t the music I like to listen to all the time, but the music that fits the best for the unicycling situation. Now I’m not saying that I’m picking bad music, but rather picking music that hopefully everyone can enjoy, not just the people that like the type of song. Even though I do like some heavy metal screaming music, I most likely wouldn’t use in a video with Kaori’s style of unicycling, unless I’m some genius at making film, or Kaori’s style turns into some hardcore extreme downhill fast-paced Muni.

When I decide to actually put effort into editing (and not just throw clips together with music) I try to find songs that are good to edit to, like if there are drastic changes in the music or things that pop out.
I have tried to not use my favorite stuff because whenever I use a song in a video I tend to hate it afterwards. I can’t listen to any song that I have used in a vid the same way afterwards.

I know what you mean, especialy when you spend a while working on timings for things. I was working on a video a while ago (which I later abandoned because I grew to hate the clips and the the whole thing in general), and the song I was working with at first just got on my nerves so quickly, something about listening to the same 5 seconds of it like 30 times just killed it.

I find the best videos though are ones that don’t necesarily have the best song but the ones where the riding is coreographed to the music. Many skateboarding videos now are doing that, and you can tell that the editors have put hours of time into making them so flawless. I was actualy watching some skate videos the other day trying to pick up some techniques and ideas for doing that. I loved how they took completely off the wall songs and made the video around that song perfectly, clip timing, sound timing (the pop of the olley, the volume of the rider, etc.), simply amazing.

That’s what I’ve tried to do with my two videos…the riding wasn’t extraordinary or anything, but I think they were good videos because they fit the music fairly well in some parts.

You don’t necessarily need good riding for a good video. One example could be fouramforever. The video with the music is fantastic, though it’s not the most amazing, innovative riding. Also, depending on your video skills, you can make someone look to be more skilled than they actually are. Could you imagine Dan Heaton riding to a very shaky video with bad angles and some awful circus music? Someone with half as much style and skills with good cinematography might appear to be a better rider (to a certain extent).

another great example is mUNIac.

I totally agree that music has a huge impact on the effect of a video. When I make little home videos for friends I spend more time selecting the music, so that it sets the tone I want for the action, than in the actual editing of the film footage. The music can make or break a video.

I don’t know about heavy metal meaning “showing off”. I am just a metal fan and that’s what I’d play. But when my movie does come out (if ever:( ) I’m gonna lighten things up and do somthing like “up on cripple creek” by the band.

You know, a fun game might be to pick a song for someone else to use in a video, then they try to make a good video with that song. Don’t pick a song you would consider to be good for a video though, but rather pick the worst thing you could think of. Might be funny to see what some of the results are.