mount Q for level 3

Some of the members of my unicycle gang were testing for level 3. Neither
passed, but one question came up: Can seat-in-front substitute for
stomach-on-seat? I’d say yes since the stomach-on-seat appears to be a
skill that leads to seat-in-front and has no other special value to a
unicyclist (except that it’s sorta cute).

David Stone
Co-founder, Unatics of NY
1st Sunday / 3rd Saturday
@ Central Park Bandshell
1:30 start time after 11/1/01

It must be seat on stomach. Seat in front and stomach on seat are different skills.

David-

Did these riders happen to fail the stomach on seat part? You didn’t specify. Having done both recently I would say that stomach on seat is much easier to learn and to do but it is neither practical nor comfortable to do. It is goofy looking which, in and of itself, is an important attribute. Other than that, it seems useful only as a lead-in to seat in front.

harper writes:
>David-
>
>Did these riders happen to fail the stomach on seat part?
>You didn’t specify. Having done both recently I would say that stomach
>on seat is much easier to learn and to do but it is neither practical
>nor comfortable to do. It is goofy looking which, in and of itself, is
>an important attribute. Other than that, it seems useful only as a
>lead-in to seat in front.
The answer is YES, they couldn’t manage the stomach variety. Amazingly,
the she of the two was able to get seat-in-front really well, tho the he
of the two never managed. Anyhoo, I’'ll make sure both of them get their
tummies on the seat in order to pass level 3.

David
>

Co-founder, Unatics of NY
1st Sunday / 3rd Saturday
@ Central Park Bandshell
1:30 start time after 11/1/01

Can I get a little clarification on stomach on seat? I can place my stomach on the seat in basically an extreme crouch and ride like that, that count?

I can’t manage it yet- suppose from lack of trying. I suppose it might be usefull for transitioning to hand wheel walk or hands on pedals.

For level testing persposes, is seat hight adjustment allowed, or must you perform all of the level without altering the ride?

Christopher

My understanding is that for level testing the same unicycle must be used throughout the test. The height of the seat may be adjusted as much and as many times as desired.

A new restriction may soon be added that the rider’s tounge must not ever touch his limbs during testing. This seems like nitpicking to me.

Why is the deck always stacked against me?

Christopher

> Can I get a little clarification on stomach on seat? I can place my
> stomach on the seat in basically an extreme crouch and ride like that,
> that count?

When it comes to “seat out skills” there is variance between the USA and IUF
versions of the levels. The first problem (with both sets of levels) is it’s
unclear what is and what is not a seat out skill. The USA levels are the
easier version, in which you’re allowed to hold the seat with 0, 1, or 2
hands. Crouching with your stomach on the seat is how it’s done. The body
should be bent forward at the waist, with your back sort of horizontal.

I ride stomach on seat with my lower abdomen on the back part of the seat.
The front of the seat doesn’t actually touch my chest, so the seat can pivot
on that single area and the unicycle is easy to steer.

In the IUF levels, skills like seat in front, back, or on stomach must
follow their descriptions in the IUF Standard Skills List. This means that
only one hand may hold the seat for seat in front or back, and the seat (and
hand holding it) may not touch the body. For stomach on seat the seat
touches your body, but your hands must be extended to the sides.

Stay on top,
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
jfoss@unicycling.com
www.unicycling.com

“You’re not supposed to wash your Roach armor” - Nathan Hoover, on safety
equipment cleaning methods

> I can’t manage it yet- suppose from lack of trying. I suppose it
> might be usefull for transitioning to hand wheel walk or hands on
> pedals.

I would consider it a useful base skill, but not necessarily closely related
to either of those skills.

> For level testing persposes, is seat hight adjustment
> allowed, or must you perform all of the level without altering the
> ride?

You must use the same unicycle, but it doesn’t say anything about adjusting
seat height. Your goal is to not have to adjust the height, so you should
shoot for learning those skills with the seat at your normal height. Outside
the scope of the levels, you should not consider them “learned” until you
can do them this way.

Stay on top,
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
jfoss@unicycling.com
www.unicycling.com

“You’re not supposed to wash your Roach armor” - Nathan Hoover, on safety
equipment cleaning methods

That sounds like it might work. Is there anybody out there who can do a hand
wheel walk who thinks this might work? I realize that some heavy spotting
and practise will be necessary when first trying this, but once you get the
knack, is it possible to go from stomach on seat to hand ww?

Joe Merrill

In a message dated 1/29/02 10:18:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
forum.member@unicyclist.com writes:

> I suppose it might be usefull for transitioning to hand wheel walk or hands
on
> pedals.