Miyata U.S.A. Web Site

Check out the Miyata U.S.A. web site at: http://www.miyatausa.com/

They have Miyata unicycles for sale there. I think they are the distributers of
Miyata unicycles in the US and Canada.

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RE: Miyata U.S.A. Web Site

>I Checked out the miyata site and noticed they have a 5 foot model. How does
>this one compare to the Sem and Tom Miller giraffe. I just noticed the up tube
>on my 5 foot bike store model (cheap) is bent to the left so it may be time to
>replace it. Is it better than the bike store models… Will it stand up to a
>few tricks… Just curious.

The main differences between the Miyata “Sky Cycle” and the ones from TUF and
Semcycle are weight, size and chrome. The Miyata is painted, so it’s whatever
color it is, and that’s what you get. Paint does not hold up as well as chrome,
especially if you’re tossing it in the car all the time with other unicyles.
From Tom Miller chrome is optional and the Semcycles are all chrome.

The lighter weight makes it more responsive, but may take away from it in the
strength department. I don’t have any experience with frame strength on the
Miyata, but the A-frame shape and shorter length are advantages in the design.
Any comments from Miyata giraffe owners? If you plan to do running mounts or
other frame-stressing tricks, you might want to get one that’s built for
adults (the Japanese unicycle market is probably 90% elementary to middle
school-aged kids).

It’s a nominal 5 footer. If you want a 6 footer, you’ll have to look elsewhere.
Of course the people at the parade will all tell their friends you were on a 10
footer no matter what…

You mentioned bike store models. What can you get at a bike store? It’s been
years since I’ve seen a giraffe in a store.

John Foss

Re: Miyata U.S.A. Web Site

I have a Savage 6’, and though I haven’t had the time yet to really give it a
good work out, the frame does seems quite solid. Though, the SUCKS, SUCKS,
SUCKS. … and did I mention the seat sucks.

                     jimhahn@juno.com

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Re: Miyata U.S.A. Web Site

I have a Savage 6’, and though I haven’t had the time yet to really give it a
good work out, the frame does seems quite solid. Though, the SUCKS, SUCKS,
SUCKS. … and did I mention the seat sucks.

                     jimhahn@juno.com

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U.S.A. Web Site {Date: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 1:53PM { { {> {> You mentioned
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It felt much sturdier than my 70’s era {Pro unicycle, which bends from normal
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Re: Miyata U.S.A. Web Site

I too, have a Savage 6 footer. I must agree the seat does suck. Mine also has a
frame flex problem, as well as an irratating chain slipping problem. I’ve tried
to solve some of these problems but am slowly giving up on the thing all
together. Unfortunatly, it lacks in quality. Am now looking at a DM double
chain model. Much better quality. Does anybody have any experience with one of
these? How does it compare in weight? My Schwinn is heavy but at least you can
ride it! Mike

RE: Miyata U.S.A. Web Site

Mike wrote:
>also has a frame flex problem, as well as an irratating chain slipping problem.
>I’ve tried to solve some of these problems but am slowly up

Beware of that chain slippage. It’s probably due to a bottom sprocket that’s
screwed on. This works fine on bicycles that are pedaled in only one direction,
but should be considered retarded engineering on any unicycle. Schwinn realized
this and changed it in the second model year of their giraffe.

I recommend having the parts disassembled, cleaned really well and
re-assembled with red (permanent) Loctite. I don’t know about trusting the
bike shop to do this either. I had a batch of six old Schwinns from an
elementary school once, asked the bike shop to do it and I got them back with
green Loctite and not tight!

>Am now looking at a DM double chain model. Much better quality. Does anybody
>have any experience with one of these? How does it compare in weight? My
>Schwinn is heavy but at least you can ride it! Mike

I will always prefer a heavy unicycle that won’t break. A light unicycle that
won’t break is nice, but hard to come by (and expensive if found). I have a
lightweight “track” unicycle for racing, but it’s only good for riding on level
ground and not for tricks. I ride it to work sometimes.

Comparing a DM double-chain with a cheap Taiwan giraffe (there is a range of
quality in the Taiwans) is like comparing a bike from Toys R Us to a much more
expensive name brand from a bike shop. The DM is beautiful, elegant and strong.

John Foss

Re: Miyata U.S.A. Web Site

Kevin Gilbertson wrote:
>
> Check out the Miyata U.S.A. web site at: http://www.miyatausa.com/
>
> They have Miyata unicycles for sale there. I think they are the distributers
> of Miyata unicycles in the US and Canada.
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> -Kevin Gilbertson- gilby@isd.net _ ///,___/ / Coming Soon! -
> http://www.isd.net/gilby/ // /__________/ IUF Webmaster:
> http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/ __/ ICQ#12611076
> ============================================


I Checked out the miyata site and noticed they have a 5 foot model. How does
this one compare to the Sem and Tom Miller giraffe. I just noticed the up tube
on my 5 foot bike store model (cheap) is bent to the left so it may be time to
replace it. Is it better than the bike store models… Will it stand up to a
few tricks… Just curious.

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address. This is supposed to help reduce spam since the “reply to” is where the
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Re: Miyata U.S.A. Web Site

Our juggling club has two giraffes: a five foot taiwanese one (chrome frame,
single chain, cottered cranks) and a six foot DM (lovely love ly lovely)

The DM probably weighs about twice as much, and because of the double chain,
doesn’t matter as much when it’s not fully set up right. The smaller one has
frame flex problems, and also has a very silly design: the bottom cog is welded
onto the wheel making spoke replacment impossible.

As for practicality, it is very hard to transport the DM. It only just fits in
my Holden Nova with both rear seats down, and won’t fit in many boots even with
the seat off. The five footer doesn’t have this problem.

As for mounting, it’s pretty near impossible to mount the DM from the pedal (you
have to use the tyre).

I think the most functional giraffe would probably be a 5’ DM for strength,
practicality and reliability.

Having said all this, i have no experience other than with Semcycles, DMs and
the crappy taiwanese job.

Nic

Mike Payne wrote:
>
> I too, have a Savage 6 footer. I must agree the seat does suck. Mine also has
> a frame flex problem, as well as an irratating chain slipping problem. I’ve
> tried to solve some of these problems but am slowly giving up on the thing all
> together. Unfortunatly, it lacks in quality. Am now looking at a DM double
> chain model. Much better quality. Does anybody have any experience with one of
> these? How does it compare in weight? My Schwinn is heavy but at least you can
> ride it! Mike
>

Re: Miyata U.S.A. Web Site

>
> You mentioned bike store models. What can you get at a bike store? It’s been
> years since I’ve seen a giraffe in a store.
>
> John Foss
>

The one I see in the bike shops is the Savage. I haven’t heard good things about
the standard Savages, but the giraffe looks pretty solid, and costs $189-$200.
One of the families in my club here just bought one, and I rode it briefly this
last Saturday. It felt good, although the seat happened to be to low for me
(I’ll fix that next time). It felt much sturdier than my 70’s era Pro unicycle,
which bends from normal use.

Beirne