Miyata Seat!

Hey everyone, recently I broke my Miyata seat doing a drop and I was
wondering if any of you people out there have any extras you’d perhaps like
to sell to me! I really want to get the new Velo when it comes out but I
need a seat now so I can go riding places and do stuff. Thanks for all your
help
Dustin Zupancic

Dustin,

I have the extra seatplate with the broken retaining clip that is destined for the trash. If you can do without the clip until the Velos come out, you’re more than welcome to it.

Contact me at yoopers at inwave.com or call me at 8155623876.

Bruce

oh jeeez all this broken miyata seat storys are scaring me!!!I just ordered one from all the way from canada 5 days ago and it got here and i tried it and now im paranoid that it will break. is there anyway i can prevent this?

you can strengthen a stock Miyata seat by taking it apart and reiforcing it with either a chunk of aluminum or some fiberglass or something. Aluminum is probibly the easest. just cut a peice that is about the right length, put a curve in the aluminum that is about the same as the curve of the seat, drill holes were the screws go (you might need to get some screws that are slightly longer) and put the seat back together with the aluminum between the plastic seat and the foam (or innertube).
It’s not as strong as a carbon fiber seat, but it is much better than just plastic.

peter

RE: Miyata Seat!

> I just ordered one from all the way from canada 5 days
> ago and it got here and i tried it and now im paranoid
> that it will break. is there anyway i can prevent this?

Don’t ride with it.

But seriously, you still have the best (non-custom) seat that’s currently
available. We all wait anxiously to see if this will still be true after the
Velo comes out, but for the moment it is. Adding a plate inside will
reinforce the middle part, but you have to completely disassemble the seat
to do it. Aren’t most of the current stories about bumpers breaking?

My solution, on my DMATU, was a custom seat post. This way you don’t have to
open up the seat (though I did anyway, to convert it to air). The new post
attaches at the seatpost bolts and at the front bumper bolts, with a
gusset in between to keep the seat from bending. This should prevent the
seat base from ever bending or breaking.

Curious as to where you are, that you had to order Miyata seats from Canada
where my assumption is that they’d be cheaper to most places, in the Western
Hemisphere, from the US.

Stay on top,
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
jfoss@unicycling.com

“If we are what we eat, then I’m easy, fast, and cheap!”

John,

Can you tell us who did the customized seat post for you? What
about price? It sounds like it would be spendy.

RE: Miyata Seat!

> Can you tell us who did the customized seat post for you? What
> about price? It sounds like it would be spendy.

It was done by my friend and local rider, Terrell Williams. I’m sure he
would be willing to do more of them, but I don’t know for how much. The
stuff he has done for me has been mostly as favors and for trades. We have
plans to try designing some other unicycle parts and possibly make them down
the road, but he’s saving up for equipment to do his own welding with
aluminum. Currently he’s limited to steel.

I’ll ask him about making more of those posts. I could use a few extras
myself.

John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
jfoss@unicycling.com
www.unicycling.com <http://www.unicycling.com>

“This unicycle is made all from lightweight materials. But it uses a lot of
them.” – Cliff Cordy, describing the very heavy new prototype unicycle he
brought on the Downieville Downhill

RE: Miyata Seat!

> > Can you tell us who did the customized seat post for you? What
> > about price? It sounds like it would be spendy.

I talked to Terrell Williams yesterday and asked him about making more of
those posts. The price, of course, would depend on how many were made. If he
starts with existing Miyata seat posts, he made a rough estimate of $40-$50
on a production run of half a dozen or so.

Does anyone else want one of these? Here are some pictures:

The post makes the seat absolutely rigid, so it will never break in the
middle like all my Miyata seats used to eventually do. It’s also responsive
for any form of riding where you push or pull on the seat (such as racing or
rough terrain), in that the seat doesn’t “give.” The original post is
chrome, and then it’s simply painted silver upward from the point of the
welding. It still looks good after nearly three years of use.

If a few others are interested, I think Terrell will make up a set. I’ll
keep one or two more for myself.

In the future, Terrell and I are planning to play around with some designs
for seat handle systems. These would effectively replace the front bumper on
a Miyata (or Velo) seat, but would attach at the post, not to the seat.
We’ll start by trying to figure out a good all-purpose handle that works
with either or both hands, then add ways to attach a brake lever, computer,
or other objects you might want to have up there. It will be based on the
general design of the Wyganowski bumper/handles that were used in the ride
across Europe last summer. I don’t know when we’ll be doing this though…

Stay on top,
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
jfoss@unicycling.com
www.unicycling.com <http://www.unicycling.com>

“This unicycle is made all from lightweight materials. But it uses a lot of
them.” – Cliff Cordy, describing the very heavy new prototype unicycle he
brought on the Downieville Downhill

RE: Miyata Seat!

CORRECTIONS (OOPS):

> If he starts with existing Miyata seat posts,

Or any type of post. Mine was done from the original DM post.

> he made a rough estimate of $40-$50 on a
> production run of half a dozen or so.

That’s apiece, for the people without realistic concepts of custom work…
:slight_smile:

JF

John,

My custom made Muni is nearly done and will be back in my lap after my vacation mid July. I was going to go with a railed seat post adapter mated to the standard Miyata seat. Other riders have recommended the railed seat post mainly to increase comfort. I am still looking for possible alternatives.

As a comparison question, I would like to ask does the Wilder railed seat post do anything for strengthening the seat base itself? I feel that over time, I may have the same problem you had with the original Miyata seat base cracking.

So, that’s why many riders replace there seat plates with the Roger Davie’s carbon Fiber seat base.

So, may I assume that the Williams altered seat post can do all the things a carbon fiber seat base can do?

Can you bolt on a reeder handle to the altered seat post?

Thanks

John,

the following link asked for sign up and stuff, do we really need
to go through that to get to the image?

RE: Miyata Seat!

> the following link asked for sign up and stuff, do we really need
> to go through that to get to the image?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/h8p

Sorry about that. I think Ofoto has changed its entry methods to look at
peoples’ pictures. You used to be able to set things up so that people could
go straight to the pictures. Now it seems to require the setting up an
account (just an email address and password), and it takes you straight to
the “buy” page. You can’t see larger versions of the pictures without
clicking on the “view albums” tab.

I will have to see if there’s a way to set up links that work better. I’ll
have to redo all the links to my many albums from my photo album page
(www.unicycling.com/ofoto).

In Ofoto’s favor, they have given me unlimited storage space, with no
apparent time limit. They do great prints. If you create an account, you get
a bunch of discounts on your first order(s).

Stay on top,
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
jfoss@unicycling.com
www.unicycling.com <http://www.unicycling.com>

“This unicycle is made all from lightweight materials. But it uses a lot of
them.” – Cliff Cordy, describing the very heavy new prototype unicycle he
brought on the Downieville Downhill