Miyata seat on a Schwinn/ standstills

Hey all, I have thought about a monty conversion with my current 24" Schwinn. I
have seen pictures with a Miyata seat (maybe it was Dan Heaton?), but how would
I do that? The miyata seat won’t fit the Schwinn post, right? Also, what is
considered an “average” standstill? I have seen a guy on a coker(Jimothy the
Fool? I can’t remember his real name) in our city, but I haven’t met him yet.
Anyway, this is the only place for help on learning.

Thanks everyone! Jeff

Re: Miyata seat on a Schwinn/ standstills

I recently bought a Sem/Monty conversion ($379) and my friend David Stone got a
United/Monty ($269) from Unicycle.com. They’re both great. The Sem seems
indestructible, though the United is probably virtually indestructible too. It
has a big advantage in the adjustable seat post clamp. I’d probably get the
United if I did it over again.

From what I read on Unicycle.com, John Drummond will convert your Schwinn to
a Monty for $189, but you keep your original Viscount style seat. Learn from
my experience. You don’t want the Viscount seat on a trials uni. After a
week of hopping and grabtbing the seat, your fingers will feel like you’ve
been beating them with a mallet! I had John assemble a Miyata seat ($48)
plus carbon fibre base ($56). The base was drilled for the Schwinn style
seat post. The carbon fibre base is really solid. It doesn’t bend the way
the Miyata seats do.

But seems to me you would spend $189 for the wheelset plus around $104 for a
seat, and possibly $10 to $24 for a decent pair of pedals. So you’re up to
$303 now? Maybe you have access to welding equipment and you can weld a
Miyata seat base to a Schwinn seat post. You’ve still spent $237. Why not
just buy a brand new United for $269 and keep your Schwinn?

Just curious, what kind of standstill can Jimothy the fool do?

Just my 2 cents.

Re: Miyata seat on a Schwinn/ standstills

I some of a Miyata seat on my schwinn –

I took a schwinn seat, and removed the cover and all, leaving just a steel plate
with 4 bolts. I took my Miyata bumpers, and drilled holes in the steel plate to
acomodate them. I then stiched together a replacement seat cover (I couldn’t
figure an easy way to put the Miyata seat back on, and the Roach seat covers
were on backorder at the time)

Unfortunately, since I don’t know of anywhere you can buy just seat parts, this
cost quite a bit – $50 or so for a complete Miyata seat, even though I just
used the bumpers, and a schwinn seat which sells these days for around $50 (this
was the same style seat used by semcycle – viscount should work just as well,
it just makes for a lot more work if you want an air seat)

Has anyone out there tried just drilling holes in a Miyata seat post? I’ve
wondered how well that would hold up, but didn’t want to deal with that plus a
seat post extention.

jeff lutkus

— jeff d tuttle <moosebreath1@juno.com>
> wrote: Hey all, I have thought about a monty conversion with my current 24"
> Schwinn. I have seen pictures with a Miyata seat (maybe it was Dan Heaton?),
> but how would I do that? The miyata seat won’t fit the Schwinn post, right?
> Also, what is considered an “average” standstill? I have seen a guy on a
> coker(Jimothy the Fool? I can’t remember his real name) in our city, but I
> haven’t met him yet. Anyway, this is the only place for help on learning.
>
>Thanks everyone! Jeff
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To get a Miyata seat to fit on the Schwinn frame, you’ll need to drill a hole through the Miyata seat post at the correct height for you. The seat posts for the Miyatas and Schwinns are the same diameter so the Miyata seat post will fit in the Schwinn frame. Make sure that the hole is square with the seat as you aren’t able to easily straighten it once it’s drilled.

Re: Miyata seat on a Schwinn/ standstills

It would be great if a Schwinn/Sem Deluxe seat post were available with a Miyata
seat post mount. Set up costs for a custom job would make it prohibitively
expensive. I wonder if there would be enough demand for it to be profitable for
someplace like the Unicycle Source to manufacture and sell.

John Hooten

Nycjoe@aol.com wrote:

> I recently bought a Sem/Monty conversion ($379) and my friend David Stone got
> a United/Monty ($269) from Unicycle.com. They’re both great. The Sem seems
> indestructible, though the United is probably virtually indestructible too. It
> has a big advantage in the adjustable seat post clamp. I’d probably get the
> United if I did it over again.
>
> From what I read on Unicycle.com, John Drummond will convert your Schwinn to a
> Monty for $189, but you keep your original Viscount style seat. Learn from my
> experience. You don’t want the Viscount seat on a trials uni. After a week of
> hopping and grabtbing the seat, your fingers will feel like you’ve been
> beating them with a mallet! I had John assemble a Miyata seat ($48) plus
> carbon fibre base ($56). The base was drilled for the Schwinn style seat post.
> The carbon fibre base is really solid. It doesn’t bend the way the Miyata
> seats do.
>
> But seems to me you would spend $189 for the wheelset plus around $104 for a
> seat, and possibly $10 to $24 for a decent pair of pedals. So you’re up to
> $303 now? Maybe you have access to welding equipment and you can weld a Miyata
> seat base to a Schwinn seat post. You’ve still spent $237. Why not just buy a
> brand new United for $269 and keep your Schwinn?
>
> Just curious, what kind of standstill can Jimothy the fool do?
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> In a message dated 4/5/2001 1:19:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> moosebreath1@juno.com writes:
>
>
>
>> Hey all, I have thought about a monty conversion with my current 24" Schwinn.
>> I have seen pictures with a Miyata seat (maybe it was Dan Heaton?), but how
>> would I do that? The miyata seat won’t fit the Schwinn post, right? Also,
>> what is considered an “average” standstill? I have seen a guy on a
>> coker(Jimothy the Fool? I can’t remember his real name) in our city, but I
>> haven’t met him yet. Anyway, this is the only place for help on learning.
>>
>> Thanks everyone! Jeff
>
>
>

Re: Miyata seat on a Schwinn- this can be done

Hi,

— John Hooten <jhooten@rcsis.com> wrote:
> It would be great if a Schwinn/Sem Deluxe seat post were available with a
> Miyata seat post mount.

This is already possible, as long as you can find a bike seatpost of the
appropriate diameter. Just order the Wilder Seatpost rails attachment from
unicycle.com, which fits a Miyata seat and allows the use of bike
seatposts. With the appropriate bike seatpost diameter you can put a Miyata
seat on any unicycle.

-Kris.

Re: Miyata seat on a Schwinn- this can be done

It can be done, but you would still need to drill holes in the post, and cut it
to the right size. I would only want to attempt the drilling with a drill press.
I guess one advantage of the Wilder rail would be that you could adjust the seat
angle, and the front to back position. I wonder if it would be much heavier than
a standard post?

Isn’t the Wilder post 27mm? Thicker than Sem and Schwinn posts? Joe

In a message dated 4/6/2001 12:40:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
danger_uni@yahoo.com writes:

> Hi,
>
> — John Hooten <jhooten@rcsis.com> wrote:
> > It would be great if a Schwinn/Sem Deluxe seat post were available with a
> > Miyata seat post mount.
>
> This is already possible, as long as you can find a bike seatpost of the
> appropriate diameter. Just order the Wilder Seatpost rails attachment from
> unicycle.com, which fits a Miyata seat and allows the use of bike seatposts.
> With the appropriate bike seatpost diameter you can put a Miyata seat on any
> unicycle.
>
> -Kris.
>

Re: Miyata seat on a Schwinn/ standstills

Oh, sorry about that. My paragraph was not very well written. All I meant was
that I have seen him(Jimothy) on a coker, but never in a still stand. My dad
has seen the same guy riding down a busy street while playing a banjo. He is
a porfessional clown,and claims to be the world’s only banjo-unicyclist; see
his website: www.dafoo.com Catchy isn’t it! He has some unicycling pictures
if you look.

Jeff

Re: Miyata seat on a Schwinn- this can be done

Nycjoe@aol.com wrote:
> It can be done, but you would still need to drill holes in the post, and cut
> it to the right size. I would only want to attempt the drilling with a drill
> press. I guess one advantage of the Wilder rail would be that you could adjust
> the seat angle, and the front to back position. I wonder if it would be much
> heavier than a standard post?
>
> Isn’t the Wilder post 27mm? Thicker than Sem and Schwinn posts? Joe
>

There isn’t any “Wilder Post”; you use any seatpost diameter you want. I’ve
drilled holes for the Semcycle system by just putting the post in the frame
first, and then drilling the hole in the post by inserting the drill bit into
the hole in the frame. Not as “proper” as using a drill press but it worked.

Weight is probably fairly similar with the Wilder because the attachment unit is
heavier but you’re using a ligher aluminum post.

Being able to adjust seat angle with the wilder system definately improves
seat comfort.

-Kris.

> In a message dated 4/6/2001 12:40:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> danger_uni@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > — John Hooten <jhooten@rcsis.com> wrote:
> > > It would be great if a Schwinn/Sem Deluxe seat post were available with a
> > > Miyata seat post mount.
> >
> > This is already possible, as long as you can find a bike seatpost of the
> > appropriate diameter. Just order the Wilder Seatpost rails attachment from
> > unicycle.com, which fits a Miyata seat and allows the use of bike seatposts.
> > With the appropriate bike seatpost diameter you can put a Miyata seat on any
> > unicycle.
> >
> > -Kris.
> >
>
>
>


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Re: Miyata seat on a Schwinn- this can be done

Does the Wilder seatbase rails attachment still fit the plastic Miyata seatbase?

I recently got a Wilder seatbase attachment for my carbon fiber seat. Just for
kicks I tried putting it on a plastic Miyata seatbase and it didn’t fit. The
holes are in the right place, but the Wilder attachment is just a tad too long
to fit in the recessed area in the plastic Miyata seatbase. It could be made to
fit by griding a little bit of the platic in the Miyata seatbase away and/or by
griding a little bit of metal off the Wilder attachment. But with everything
stock, it will not fit.

Maybe I just got an odd-sized batch.

john_childs

>From: Kris Holm <danger_uni@yahoo.com>
>
>
>Hi,
>
>— John Hooten <jhooten@rcsis.com> wrote:
> > It would be great if a Schwinn/Sem Deluxe seat post were available with a
> > Miyata seat post mount.
>
>This is already possible, as long as you can find a bike seatpost of the
>appropriate diameter. Just order the Wilder Seatpost rails attachment from
>unicycle.com, which fits a Miyata seat and allows the use of bike seatposts.
>With the appropriate bike seatpost diameter you can put a Miyata seat on any
>unicycle.
>
>-Kris.
>
> >
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> Set up costs for a custom job would make it
> > prohibitively expensive. I wonder if there would be enough demand for it
> > to be profitable for someplace like the Unicycle Source to manufacture
> > and sell.
> >
> > John Hooten
> >
> > Nycjoe@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I recently bought a Sem/Monty conversion ($379) and my friend David Stone
> > > got a United/Monty ($269) from Unicycle.com. They’re both great. The Sem
> > > seems indestructible, though the United is probably virtually
> > > indestructible too. It has a big advantage in the adjustable seat post
> > > clamp. I’d probably get the United if I did it over again.
> > >
> > > From what I read on Unicycle.com, John Drummond will convert your Schwinn
> > > to a Monty for $189, but you keep your original Viscount style seat. Learn
> > > from my experience. You don’t want the Viscount seat on a trials uni.
> > > After a week of hopping and grabtbing the seat, your fingers will feel
> > > like you’ve been beating them with a mallet! I had John assemble a Miyata
> > > seat ($48) plus carbon fibre base ($56). The base was drilled for the
> > > Schwinn style seat post. The carbon fibre base is really solid. It doesn’t
> > > bend the way the Miyata seats do.
> > >
> > > But seems to me you would spend $189 for the wheelset plus around $104 for
> > > a seat, and possibly $10 to $24 for a decent pair of pedals. So you’re up
> > > to $303 now? Maybe you have access to welding equipment and you can weld a
> > > Miyata seat base to a Schwinn seat post. You’ve still spent $237. Why not
> > > just buy a brand new United for $269 and keep your Schwinn?
> > >
> > > Just curious, what kind of standstill can Jimothy the fool do?
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents.
> > >
> > > In a message dated 4/5/2001 1:19:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > moosebreath1@juno.com writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hey all, I have thought about a monty conversion with my current 24"
> > >> Schwinn. I have seen pictures with a Miyata seat (maybe it was Dan
> > >> Heaton?), but how would I do that? The miyata seat won’t fit the Schwinn
> > >> post, right? Also, what is considered an “average” standstill? I have
> > >> seen a guy on a coker(Jimothy the Fool? I can’t remember his real name)
> > >> in our city, but I haven’t met him yet. Anyway, this is the only place
> > >> for help on learning.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks everyone! Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > standstill can Jimothy the fool do?</font></font>
> > <p><font face=“arial,helvetica”><font size=-1>Just my 2
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> > <p><font face=“arial,helvetica”><font size=-1>In a message dated
>4/5/2001
> > 1:19:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,</font></font> <br><font
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> > <p><font face=“arial,helvetica”><font size=-1>Thanks
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Re(2): Miyata seat on a Schwinn/ standstills

moosebreath1@juno.com writes:
>Oh, sorry about that. My paragraph was not very well written. All I meant was
>that I have seen him(Jimothy) on a coker, but never in a still stand. My dad
>has seen the same guy riding down a busy street while playing a banjo. He is
>a porfessional clown,and claims to be the world’s only banjo-unicyclist; see
>his website: www.dafoo.com Catchy isn’t it! He has some unicycling pictures
>if you look.
>
I took cello lessons from an early age, so the switch to banjo was fairly easy.
I had a banjo (even took lessons for a year) when I was in my teens. I took up
banjo specifically so I could play while riiding. But I gave it away and haven’t
played an instrument on a uni in a long time. Cello on a unicycle? That would be
interesting!

David

Re: Miyata seat on a Schwinn- this can be done

— John Childs <john_childs@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I recently got a Wilder seatbase attachment for my carbon fiber seat. Just for
> kicks I tried putting it on a plastic Miyata seatbase and it didn’t fit.

This was a design flaw on the original design and has since been corrected.

-Kris


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