My girlfriend has a Viscount saddle that she would like to replace by a
Miyata. Will the Miyata saddle fit on the same seatpost or should we buy
the model with seatpost. Visount model has a 4-bolts fitting.
Thanks a lot !
Christian.
Christian
You need to order a post as well. Miyata does have 4 bolt mounting but it
is spaced different than most others. unicycle.com has them avalable.
Darren
Christian St-Pierre wrote:
> My girlfriend has a Viscount saddle that she would like to replace by a
> Miyata. Will the Miyata saddle fit on the same seatpost or should we buy
> the model with seatpost. Visount model has a 4-bolts fitting.
>
> Thanks a lot !
>
> Christian.
Christian St-Pierre wrote:
> My girlfriend has a Viscount saddle that she would like to replace by a
> Miyata. Will the Miyata saddle fit on the same seatpost or should we buy
> the model with seatpost. Visount model has a 4-bolts fitting.
Viscount and SemCycle bolt patterns are the same - but, alas, Miyata is
different. Time for a new seat post.
Presumably people buying the carbon fibre base for their Miyata seat could
just drill it out for the Viscount/SemCycle bolt pattern…
> Thanks a lot !
>
> Christian.
Regards, Mark.
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Thanks a lot !
Then… will the Miyata seatpost fit with her unicycle ? I saw Miyata seat
post at unicycle.com and they say “22.2-mm in diameter, fits only on
Miyata unicycles”. Other seatpost seem to be 22mm in diameter. Will it fit
anyway ? I bought a seatpost extension for my own uni and I’m having a
hardtime with
it… Can the 0.2mm difference cause such problems ?
Thanks again,
Christ.
Mark Wiggins wrote:
> Christian St-Pierre wrote:
> > My girlfriend has a Viscount saddle that she would like to replace by
> > a Miyata. Will the Miyata saddle fit on the same seatpost or should we
> > buy the model with seatpost. Visount model has a 4-bolts fitting.
>
> Viscount and SemCycle bolt patterns are the same - but, alas, Miyata is
> different. Time for a new seat post.
>
> Presumably people buying the carbon fibre base for their Miyata seat
> could just drill it out for the Viscount/SemCycle bolt pattern…
>
> > Thanks a lot !
> >
> > Christian.
>
> Regards, Mark.
>
> –
> Fujitsu Telecom Europe Ltd,| o Solihull Parkway, | In the land of the
> pedestrian, /|\ Birmingham Business Park, | the one-wheeled man is king.
> << Birmingham, ENGLAND. | O
Good question…I’d like to stick one on the Coker.
Aside from the handle, is the difference between a Miyata and a Viscount with air seats all that different?
Christopher LeFay
It fits with no problem. I used my Miyata seat (which is the COOL GREEN
seat) on my Cycledesign 20" until I got my 26" Semcycle, and now I use the
Miyata seat on the Semcycle. I had to get a good clamp to keep it from
turning to the side a little on rough dismounts, for about 4 bucks at a
local bike shop. Quick-release clamps are a little more money.
John
Christian St-Pierre wrote:
> Thanks a lot !
>
> Then… will the Miyata seatpost fit with her unicycle ? I saw Miyata
> seat post at unicycle.com and they say "22.2-mm in diameter, fits only
> on Miyata unicycles". Other seatpost seem to be 22mm in diameter. Will
> it fit anyway ? I bought a seatpost extension for my own uni and I’m
> having a hardtime with
> it… Can the 0.2mm difference cause such problems ?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Christ.
>
> Mark Wiggins wrote:
>
> > Christian St-Pierre wrote:
> > > My girlfriend has a Viscount saddle that she would like to replace
> > > by a Miyata. Will the Miyata saddle fit on the same seatpost or
> > > should we buy the model with seatpost. Visount model has a 4-bolts
> > > fitting.
> >
> > Viscount and SemCycle bolt patterns are the same - but, alas, Miyata
> > is different. Time for a new seat post.
> >
> > Presumably people buying the carbon fibre base for their Miyata seat
> > could just drill it out for the Viscount/SemCycle bolt pattern…
> >
> > > Thanks a lot !
> > >
> > > Christian.
> >
> > Regards, Mark.
> >
> > –
> > Fujitsu Telecom Europe Ltd,| o Solihull Parkway, | In the land of the
> > pedestrian, /|\ Birmingham Business Park, | the one-wheeled man is
> > king. << Birmingham, ENGLAND. | O
I have a miyata seatpost and seat on my Sem XLW. That frame is really a wide Torker Frame. It fits fine. I don’t know if it was designed that way on purpose, but it fits.
I just bought a alloy seat clamp from Unicycle.com that is $8.00 to fit my 20"united. It isn’t in the catalogue. It is the same clamp that comes with the SEM XLW. It has an allen head bolt on it and tightens up the seat real nice.
>
> Aside from the handle, is the difference between a Miyata and a Viscount
> with air seats all that different?
>
Hmmm… Good question too. I have a simple Viscount and I like it though
I’d like to try it with an air pillow. People tend to sat that Miyata with
air seat is really worth the price. My girlfriend can’t sit on the
Viscount 5 seconds. She finds it uncomfortable…
Christ.
Hi,
Maybe I’ve said this way too much but I think that the most important
thing for increasing seat comfort, aside from padding, is the ability to
adjust seat angle to your own personal preference. Personally I find that
the best comfort is when the rear, wide part of the seat is flat (meaning
that both the Viscount and Miyata seats are overly angled downwards at
the front). Although you can achieve a bit of adjustment by re-drilling
the holes in a carbonfibre seat frame further towards the back of the
seat, unlike the wilder bracket this also affects the forward-rear
position of the seat.
Does anyone know whether you can get 22 or 22.2 mm seatposts with a
standard bike rails attachment? This would enable the use of the
Wilder bracket on a Miyata seat with a Coker, and the ability to
adjust seat angle.
Cheers,
Kris.
— rhysling <forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote:
>
>
> Good question…I’d like to stick one on the Coker.
>
> Aside from the handle, is the difference between a Miyata and a Viscount
> with air seats all that different?
>
> Christopher LeFay
>
>
> Christian St-Pierre wrote:
> > Thanks a lot ! Then… will the Miyata seatpost fit with her
> > unicycle ? I saw Miyata seat post at unicycle.com and they say
> > “22.2-mm in diameter, fits only on Miyata unicycles”. Other seatpost
> > seem to be 22mm in diameter. Will it fit anyway ? I bought a
> > seatpost extension for my own uni and I’m having a hardtime with
> > it… Can the 0.2mm difference cause such problems ? Thanks again,
> > Christ.
>
>
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Seat Angle
I presumed the funky seat angle was from pullng up on the handle all the time! 
Does this angle work any better on asents or desents? Anything to keep that seat from from squishing my groin into oblivion would be great.
Aside from the handle and side seat grabs, after adding an air pillow, do you think there would be a significant difference between a Viscount or Miyata, as far as comfort is concerned?
Christopher LeFay
I forget the name off hand, but I found a bmx seat post that is 22.2 mm. I
have it set up with a wilder seat bracket and a carbon seat. After taking
a 12 mile ride on it the other day, I definitely prefer it to my carbon
only setup. Putting the wide part flat really helps comfort.
-Bronson
“Kris Holm” <danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mailman.1005240673.32523.rsu@unicycling.org…
> Hi,
>
> Maybe I’ve said this way too much but I think that the most important
thing for increasing seat
> comfort, aside from padding, is the ability to adjust seat angle to your
own personal preference.
> Personally I find that the best comfort is when the rear, wide
> part of the
seat is flat (meaning
> that both the Viscount and Miyata seats are overly angled
> downwards at the
front). Although you
> can achieve a bit of adjustment by re-drilling the holes in a
> carbonfibre
seat frame further
> towards the back of the seat, unlike the wilder bracket this also
> affects
the forward-rear
> position of the seat.
>
> Does anyone know whether you can get 22 or 22.2 mm seatposts with a
standard bike rails
> attachment? This would enable the use of the Wilder bracket on a Miyata
seat with a Coker, and
> the ability to adjust seat angle.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kris.
>
> — rhysling <forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Good question…I’d like to stick one on the Coker.
> >
> > Aside from the handle, is the difference between a Miyata and a
> > Viscount with air seats all that different?
> >
> > Christopher LeFay
> >
> >
> > Christian St-Pierre wrote:
> > > Thanks a lot ! Then… will the Miyata seatpost fit with her
> > > unicycle ? I saw
Miyata
> > > seat post at unicycle.com and they say "22.2-mm in diameter, fits
only
> > > on Miyata unicycles". Other seatpost seem to be 22mm in diameter.
Will
> > > it fit anyway ? I bought a seatpost extension for my own uni and
> > > I’m having a hardtime with
> > > it… Can the 0.2mm difference cause such problems ? Thanks again,
> > > Christ.
> >
> >
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Hi Kris.
We now stock the Kore B’atch 22.2-mm seat posts with rail mounting
hardware. They’ll be listed in our catalog in a few days, but we can take
phone orders now.
Best regards, John www.Unicycle.com 1-800-Unicycle
----- Original Message ----- From: “Kris Holm” <danger_uni@yahoo.com> To:
<rsu@unicycling.org> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:34 PM Subject:
Re: Miyata saddle
> Hi,
>
> Maybe I’ve said this way too much but I think that the most important
thing for increasing seat
> comfort, aside from padding, is the ability to adjust seat angle to your
own personal preference.
> Personally I find that the best comfort is when the rear, wide
> part of the
seat is flat (meaning
> that both the Viscount and Miyata seats are overly angled
> downwards at the
front). Although you
> can achieve a bit of adjustment by re-drilling the holes in a
> carbonfibre
seat frame further
> towards the back of the seat, unlike the wilder bracket this also
> affects
the forward-rear
> position of the seat.
>
> Does anyone know whether you can get 22 or 22.2 mm seatposts with a
standard bike rails
> attachment? This would enable the use of the Wilder bracket on a Miyata
seat with a Coker, and
> the ability to adjust seat angle.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kris.
>
> — rhysling <forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Good question…I’d like to stick one on the Coker.
> >
> > Aside from the handle, is the difference between a Miyata and a
> > Viscount with air seats all that different?
> >
> > Christopher LeFay
> >
> >
> > Christian St-Pierre wrote:
> > > Thanks a lot ! Then… will the Miyata seatpost fit with her
> > > unicycle ? I saw
Miyata
> > > seat post at unicycle.com and they say "22.2-mm in diameter, fits
only
> > > on Miyata unicycles". Other seatpost seem to be 22mm in diameter.
Will
> > > it fit anyway ? I bought a seatpost extension for my own uni and
> > > I’m having a hardtime with
> > > it… Can the 0.2mm difference cause such problems ? Thanks again,
> > > Christ.
> >
> >
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Any specs on how tall these posts are? (Or when you folks will be getting
more wilder rails in stock?)
> We now stock the Kore B’atch 22.2-mm seat posts with rail mounting
> hardware. They’ll be listed in our catalog in a few days, but we can
> take phone orders now.
>
> Best regards, John www.Unicycle.com 1-800-Unicycle
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One thing to note about the Kore B’atch seatpost is that it is a fixed
position design. You cannot adjust the tilt of the seat. This means that
it will never slip. But it also means that if the angle doesn’t happen to
be correct you won’t be able to adjust it.
One advantage though is that the rail attachment isn’t bulky and doesn’t
have bolts and other parts sticking out that you can catch your fingers in
when jumping with the seat out front. I’ve caught my finger under a bolt
on my post when holding the seat out front. Slimmer rail attachment
designs that won’t catch your fingers is a big plus.
A general word of warning about Kore customer service. I tried the Kore
platform pedals last winter. They were good for winter riding in the wet
and in the mud. They are very grippy. My feet did not slip even when my
shoes were muddy. But… The pedals lasted about 2 months before I
managed to destroy the needle bearings in one of them. I was unable to
contact a live person at Kore in customer service to find out how to
replace the needle bearings. The bike shop that I purchased the pedals at
also could not get in contact with a live person at Kore. The bike shop
eventually gave up and replaced the pedals out of their own stock. That
sucked for them. Warranty service and customer service from Kore seems to
be nonexistent. Considering that they were $80-$90 (USD) pedals I expected
a little more.
john_childs
>From: “Jeff Lutkus” <lutkus@unicyclist.com>
>
>Any specs on how tall these posts are? (Or when you folks will be getting
>more wilder rails in stock?)
>
> > We now stock the Kore B’atch 22.2-mm seat posts with rail mounting
> > hardware. They’ll be listed in our catalog in a few days, but we can
> > take phone orders now.
> >
> > Best regards, John www.Unicycle.com 1-800-Unicycle
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The 0.2mm difference can cause a problem on some unicycles. If the Miyata
post is real tight you can do some light scouring on the inside of the
seat tube to make things fit better. If you have to pound on the seat to
get the seat post in then the fit is too tight. When I put a Miyata seat
post on my Coker the fit was too tight. I got a round wire brush that is
used for deburring the inside of a 3/4" (or maybe it was 1") pipe and
scoured the inside of the seat tube on the Coker. It didn’t take much,
just a little bit of scouring. After that the Miyata seat post was a
better fit and all is good.
john_childs
>From: John <gianniz80@yahoo.com>
>
> It fits with no problem. I used my Miyata seat (which is the COOL
> GREEN seat) on my Cycledesign 20" until I got my 26" Semcycle, and now
> I use the Miyata seat on the Semcycle. I had to get a good clamp to
> keep it from turning to the side a little on rough dismounts, for
> about 4 bucks at a local bike shop. Quick-release clamps are a little
> more money.
>
>John
>
>
>Christian St-Pierre wrote:
>
> > Thanks a lot !
> >
> > Then… will the Miyata seatpost fit with her unicycle ? I saw >
> > Miyata
>seat post at unicycle.com and they say "22.2-mm in diameter, > fits only
>on Miyata unicycles". Other seatpost seem to be 22mm in > diameter. Will
>it fit anyway ? I bought a seatpost extension for my > own uni and I’m
>having a hardtime with
> > it… Can the 0.2mm difference cause such problems ?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Christ.
> >
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I don’t know about the rest of you but I find two “standards” that are 0.2mm (0.008") or one part in 100 different from each other to be VERY annoying. I am going to buy a Miyata seat and seat post extension soon (maybe after the blues come back) and the first thing I plan to do to it is chuck it up on a lathe and turn 8 mils off of the diameter. Then it will fit my Coker, my Zephyr, and practically any other unicycle I plan to buy.
Kris, Look in a BMX catalog (or somewhere like www.danscomp.com).
They should have a pretty large variety of seatposts that are listed
as 22.2mm or
7/8", which is the same size.
Jeff
On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:34:13 -0800 (PST) Kris Holm
<danger_uni@yahoo.com> writes:
> Does anyone know whether you can get 22 or 22.2 mm seatposts with a
> standard bike rails attachment? This would enable the use of the
> Wilder bracket on a Miyata seat with a Coker, and the ability to
> adjust seat angle.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kris.
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