miyata bumpers

I don’t suppose anyone knows of anywhere one might find the Miyata seat bumpers
without buying the entire seat?

if not, do any other manufacturers make bumpers available without
purchasing the seat?

jeff lutkus


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Re: miyata bumpers

Jeff,

I’m sitting here with a cracked front bumper wondering the same thing, but
unfortunately these things are worth their weight in gold right now. I got some
from George Siegmon in Germany once, but that connection seems to have dried up
too. Unicycle.com will carry them next year but until then I’m not aware of
anywhere you can get them in North America.

-Kris.

— Jeff Lutkus <lutkus@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I don’t suppose anyone knows of anywhere one might find the Miyata seat
> bumpers without buying the entire seat?
>
> if not, do any other manufacturers make bumpers available without purchasing
> the seat?
>
> jeff lutkus
>


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RE: miyata bumpers

> I don’t suppose anyone knows of anywhere one might find the Miyata seat
> bumpers without buying the entire seat?

Have you and Kris called Tom Miller yet? Don’t forget he still sits on vast
inventories of some parts. Bumpers might be one, if people haven’t cleaned him
out already…

(765) 452-2692

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Re: miyata bumpers

It is really interesting that you can replace almost any part of a unicycle –
from a pedal to a hub to a spoke, but you can only buy seats fully assembled. A
while back, there was a discussion about the design of a new seat. I now think
the greatest feature would be to have detachable bumpers, and sell them
seperately.

Actually, when I think of it, if I want to buy a seat, I really only want a
metal (or carbon fiber) seat frame, and a front and rear bumper. Everything
else, though convenient if mass produced, I could easily enough make myself.

Well, here’s to John’s deal with Miyata. If all it does is make Miyata bumpers
available for a price lower than an assembled seat, I will be very happy.

jeff lutkus

>I’m sitting here with a cracked front bumper wondering the same thing, but
>unfortunately these things are worth their weight in gold right now. I got some
>from George Siegmon in Germany once, but that connection seems to have dried up
>too. Unicycle.com will carry them next year but until then I’m not aware of
>anywhere you can get them in North America.
>
>-Kris.
>
>
>— Jeff Lutkus <lutkus@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I don’t suppose anyone knows of anywhere one might find the Miyata seat
> > bumpers without buying the entire seat?
> >
> > if not, do any other manufacturers make bumpers available without purchasing
> > the seat?
> >
> > jeff lutkus
> >
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RE: miyata bumpers

> I’ve been wondering about fitting a handlebar grip (like on a BMX bike) to my
> unicycle. I’d rather be able to grab the handle with my hand, rather than just
> fingers.

There was a guy with such a handle at the first convention I went to, back in
1980. His name was Randy Barnes, and he had a Schwinn (which is what almost
everybody rode in those days) with a handle welded to the seat post. Two struts
came up from different points on the post to join at the middle of a piece of
cold rolled steel, about 1" in diameter and about 4" wide. This was just in
front of the seat.

Randy was into jumping ramps (you can see him in the video “Unicycle”), and used
the handle to help him pull up on his jumps. Though his handle was undoubtedly
heavy, the idea is good, and it takes the stress off the seat so you wouldn’t
get the common problem of seat posts or bases breaking from the stress.

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RE: miyata bumpers

> Did the pipe-shaped handle point front-to-back, side-to-side, or skewed at
> some angle?

Side to side, like a ‘T’.

> Since the pipe was supported at its middle, did you have to make the Vulcan
> sign with your fingers to use it?

The supports were only about 1/8" thick, but they did come up in the middle,
underneath. I think this would be pretty comfortable.

> Anybody got pictures of this? I don’t own the video “Unicycle.”

I don’t have anything scanned. I could look to see if I have any detail on
that seat.

I think there is a lot of room for design ideas in unicycle seat posts. If all
your “stuff” is being supported by the post instead of the seat, you don’t have
to worry about the seat breaking. Then you could make attachments for handles,
brakes, computers, water bottles, tool kits, lights, etc.

Another cycle I wish I had a picture of was one built by Michael Kirsch and
brought to UNICON VIII in 1996. He had a short “racing” giraffe with a 3:1 gear
ratio. If you’ve ever tried 2:1 on a giraffe, you know how hard this would be to
control. He had it set up with a seat that had kind of a triathlon bar center on
the front. Two little handles angled toward each other, forming sort of a point.
You could lean down on these handles, and pull up on them for torque. In the
space formed by this triangle he had a cycle computer. Very neat!

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Re: miyata bumpers

Hi,

Although this would necessitate left and right-handed versions, I think it would
be cool if the Miyata style bumper was simply assymetrical, with the handle on a
diagonal. This would make it more comfortable for the hand you typically grip
with while still being tolerable for the other hand as well. It would make using
the brake less awkward as well.

-Kris.

— Chris Reeder <reed8990@uidaho.edu> wrote:
> You’re right. You don’t want to violate the “straight wrist principle”, which
> the Miyata handle generally violates if you grab on tight. Ultimately, we will
> need it to be positioned at some angle in three-space to where our wrist can
> be perfectly straight when we use
> it. We’ll have to be creative to shield it so that we don’t lose future
> children during those nasty crashes when your feet come off the pedals
> and you’re still kind of on the seat.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Greg House wrote:
>
> > In article <3A06FFB9.A39892A1@uidaho.edu> you
> write:
> > >John,
> > >
> > >Did the pipe-shaped handle point front-to-back,
> side-to-side, or skewed
> > >at some angle?
> > >
> > >Since the pipe was supported at its middle, did
> you have to make the
> > >Vulcan sign with your fingers to use it?
> >
> > If you think in terms of ergonomics, it should
> point to the
> > front rather then side to side. That way you can
> get the strongest
> > grip on it with either hand and will be able to
> exert maximum
> > upward force with your arm.
> >
> > Plus, if it’s side to side there’s a good chance
> it’s going to
> > whack your leg on a forceable dismount, unless
> it’s really narrow
> > matching the shape of the seat (just further
> forward).
> >
> > Greg
> > –
> >
>


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RE: miyata bumpers

> Although this would necessitate left and right-handed versions, I think it
> would be cool if the Miyata style bumper was simply assymetrical, with the
> handle on a diagonal. This would make it more comfortable for the hand you
> typically grip with while still being tolerable for the other hand as well. It
> would make using the brake less awkward as well.

But I like to switch hands, and sometimes use both (not usually on trails).
Another possibility is a triangular handle, a little wider, that has space for
one hand on each side. Then you can hold with left, right, or both hands, which
would be real useful for long road rides.

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RE: miyata bumpers

Neil,

Good point- I think that John’s triangle version would be better. I don’t think
that a “ball” version would be as good because its nice to have a a lip to hook
your fingers over (although a more rounded one than the Miyata would be more
comfortable).

-Kris.

— Neil Dunlop <n.dunlop@kildrummy.co.uk> wrote:
> Being left handed I’m chucking my 2 pennies worth into this. Virtually
> everything that is designed for the right hand only ever makes an appearance
> for the lefties out there on rare occasions and, when they do, they’re
> invariably hard to get your hands on (hur hur). I’ll hazard a guess that any
> manufacturer wouldn’t take the hit for producing both varieties (given the
> number of units they’ll sell) so anyone who grips predominantly with *the
> wrong hand* is in for a hard time.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message----- From: danger_uni@yahoo.com
> [mailto:danger_uni@yahoo.com] Sent: 07 November 2000 17:19 To:
> reed8990@uidaho.edu
> Cc: unicycling@winternet.com Subject: Re: miyata bumpers Importance: Low
>
> Hi,
>
> Although this would necessitate left and right-handed versions, I think it
> would be cool if the Miyata style bumper was simply assymetrical, with the
> handle on a diagonal. This would make it more comfortable for the hand you
> typically grip with while still being tolerable for the other hand as well. It
> would make using the brake less awkward as well.
>
> -Kris.
>
> — Chris Reeder <reed8990@uidaho.edu> wrote:
> >> You’re right. You don’t want to violate the “straight wrist principle”,
> >> which the Miyata handle generally violates if you grab on tight.
> >> Ultimately, we will need it to be
> positioned
> >> at some angle in three-space to where our wrist can be perfectly straight
> >> when we use
> >> it. We’ll have to be creative to shield it so
> that
> >> we don’t lose future children during those nasty crashes when your
> feet
> >> come off the pedals and you’re still kind of on the seat.
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Greg House wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <3A06FFB9.A39892A1@uidaho.edu> you
> >> write:
> >> > >John,
> >> > >
> >> > >Did the pipe-shaped handle point
> front-to-back,
> >> side-to-side, or skewed
> >> > >at some angle?
> >> > >
> >> > >Since the pipe was supported at its middle,
> did
> >> you have to make the
> >> > >Vulcan sign with your fingers to use it?
> >> >
> >> > If you think in terms of ergonomics, it should
> >> point to the
> >> > front rather then side to side. That way you
> can
> >> get the strongest
> >> > grip on it with either hand and will be able to
> >> exert maximum
> >> > upward force with your arm.
> >> >
> >> > Plus, if it’s side to side there’s a good
> chance
> >> it’s going to
> >> > whack your leg on a forceable dismount, unless
> >> it’s really narrow
> >> > matching the shape of the seat (just further
> >> forward).
> >> >
> >> > Greg
> >> > –
> >> >
> >>
>
>
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RE: miyata bumpers

Hey, I’m definitely right handed, but I tend to hold the saddle with my
left…so maybe other righties do the same and save their good hand for
balance? I do sometimes use my right hand and both hands on the handle for long
rides. -Mark

> — Neil Dunlop <n.dunlop@kildrummy.co.uk> wrote:
> > Being left handed I’m chucking my 2 pennies worth into this. Virtually
> > everything that is designed for the right hand
> only
> > ever makes an appearance for the lefties out there on rare occasions and,
> > when they do, they’re invariably hard to get your hands on (hur hur).
> I’ll
> > hazard a guess that any manufacturer wouldn’t take the hit for producing
> > both varieties (given the number of units they’ll sell) so anyone who grips
> > predominantly with the wrong hand is in for a hard time.
> >
> > Neil


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RE: miyata bumpers

> How about a solid aluminium ice cream scoop ??

Ow. Can you say sliced off fingers? :slight_smile:

jf

Re: miyata bumpers

I recently bought 2 pairs of Blue :slight_smile: Miyata end caps (front handel and back)
from Tom Miller. I’m not sure if he has any more, but he has a lot of stuff in
stock. I’m sure he would like to move some of it.

Now that the Unicycle Source is the US distributer for Miyata I’m sure John
Drummond will try to order spare parts as weell as just entire seats.

BTW I do not profit in any way from sales made by either Tom Miller or the
Unicycle Source.

All the best,

John Hooten

Kris Holm wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> I’m sitting here with a cracked front bumper wondering the same thing, but
> unfortunately these things are worth their weight in gold right now. I got
> some from George Siegmon in Germany once, but that connection seems to have
> dried up too. Unicycle.com will carry them next year but until then I’m not
> aware of anywhere you can get them in North America.
>
> -Kris.
>
> — Jeff Lutkus <lutkus@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I don’t suppose anyone knows of anywhere one might find the Miyata seat
> > bumpers without buying the entire seat?
> >
> > if not, do any other manufacturers make bumpers available without purchasing
> > the seat?
> >
> > jeff lutkus
> >
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Re: miyata bumpers

>if not, do any other manufacturers make bumpers available without purchasing
>the seat?
Could you use the Semcycle XL bumpers? Then try (I think) www.semcycle.com or
www.semcycle.nl (Dutch). My impression is that they are quite flexible to
customer wishes.

Klaas

Re: miyata bumpers

Greetings

In message “RE: miyata bumpers”, John Foss wrote…
>> I don’t suppose anyone knows of anywhere one might find the Miyata seat
>> bumpers without buying the entire seat?
>
>Have you and Kris called Tom Miller yet? Don’t forget he still sits on vast
>inventories of some parts. Bumpers might be one, if people haven’t cleaned him
>out already…
>
>(765) 452-2692

I may be able to help. The JUA will soon start selling these things through a
website. I’ll check and let you know.

>John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone http://www.unicycling.com
>
>“Sometimes there just aren’t enough rocks.” – Forrest Gump
>

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Re: miyata bumpers

Is it possible we could convince someone else to make a similar part. Given that
there’s some demand, supply of the genuine Miyata part is limited, most people
don’t like the seafoam green color all that much, and they are at least somewhat
expendable, it seems like someone has the potential to sell something.

Unfortunately, I know next to nothing about plastics, so I wouldn’t even know
where to start. It seems like it’d have to be some sort of plastic (like the
original) to work, since metal would scrape up and cut your hands.

Greg

On Thu, 02 Nov 2000, Kris Holm wrote:
>Jeff,
>
>I’m sitting here with a cracked front bumper wondering the same thing, but
>unfortunately these things are worth their weight in gold right now. I got some
>from George Siegmon in Germany once, but that connection seems to have dried up
>too. Unicycle.com will carry them next year but until then I’m not aware of
>anywhere you can get them in North America.
>
>-Kris.
>
>
>— Jeff Lutkus <lutkus@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I don’t suppose anyone knows of anywhere one might find the Miyata seat
>> bumpers without buying the entire seat?
>>
>> if not, do any other manufacturers make bumpers available without purchasing
>> the seat?
>>
>> jeff lutkus
>>
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Re: miyata bumpers

John,

Did the pipe-shaped handle point front-to-back, side-to-side, or skewed at
some angle?

Since the pipe was supported at its middle, did you have to make the Vulcan sign
with your fingers to use it?

Anybody got pictures of this? I don’t own the video “Unicycle.”

Thanks,

Chris Reeder

p.s. Hey, maybe a brake could be fitted to one of these “handlebars.”

John Foss wrote:
>
> > I’ve been wondering about fitting a handlebar grip (like on a BMX bike) to
> > my unicycle. I’d rather be able to grab the handle with my hand, rather than
> > just fingers.
>
> There was a guy with such a handle at the first convention I went to, back in
> 1980. His name was Randy Barnes, and he had a Schwinn (which is what almost
> everybody rode in those days) with a handle welded to the seat post. Two
> struts came up from different points on the post to join at the middle of a
> piece of cold rolled steel, about 1" in diameter and about 4" wide. This was
> just in front of the seat.
>
> Randy was into jumping ramps (you can see him in the video “Unicycle”), and
> used the handle to help him pull up on his jumps. Though his handle was
> undoubtedly heavy, the idea is good, and it takes the stress off the seat
> so you wouldn’t get the common problem of seat posts or bases breaking from
> the stress.
>
> Stay on top, John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone http://www.unicycling.com
>
> “Sometimes there just aren’t enough rocks.” – Forrest Gump


Chris Reeder reed8990@uidaho.edu

Re: miyata bumpers

How about a ball shaped grip - a bit like a tow ball off a car. If mounted so it
were facing on a downward angle it could be gripped from anywhere and still
maintain the same feel. It also has no sharp bits protruding which give peace of
mind and comfort of …

Wayne van Wijk wayne@jester.com.au


O—( >–|-o

Ouch! I just fell off my unicycle.


> But I like to switch hands, and sometimes use both (not usually on
trails).
> Another possibility is a triangular handle, a little wider, that has space for
> one hand on each side. Then you can hold with left, right, or both hands,
> which would be real useful for long road rides.

Re: miyata bumpers

Not really - the type I was thinking of looks like a smooth hollowed out
towball.

Leo White

John Foss <john_foss@asinet.com> wrote in message
news:631B3F1D150FD3118E4D00A0C9EC1BDA481359@SERVER
> > How about a solid aluminium ice cream scoop ??
>
> Ow. Can you say sliced off fingers? :slight_smile:
>
> jf

Re: miyata bumpers

I’ve been wondering about fitting a handlebar grip (like on a BMX bike) to my
unicycle. I’d rather be able to grab the handle with my hand, rather than
just fingers.

Chris

Greg House wrote:
>
> Is it possible we could convince someone else to make a similar part. Given
> that there’s some demand, supply of the genuine Miyata part is limited, most
> people don’t like the seafoam green color all that much, and they are at least
> somewhat expendable, it seems like someone has the potential to sell
> something.
>
> Unfortunately, I know next to nothing about plastics, so I wouldn’t even know
> where to start. It seems like it’d have to be some sort of plastic (like the
> original) to work, since metal would scrape up and cut your hands.
>
> Greg
>
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2000, Kris Holm wrote:
> >Jeff,
> >
> >I’m sitting here with a cracked front bumper wondering the same thing, but
> >unfortunately these things are worth their weight in gold right now. I got
> >some from George Siegmon in Germany once, but that connection seems to have
> >dried up too. Unicycle.com will carry them next year but until then I’m not
> >aware of anywhere you can get them in North America.
> >
> >-Kris.
> >
> >
> >— Jeff Lutkus <lutkus@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> I don’t suppose anyone knows of anywhere one might find the Miyata seat
> >> bumpers without buying the entire seat?
> >>
> >> if not, do any other manufacturers make bumpers available without
> >> purchasing the seat?
> >>
> >> jeff lutkus
> >>
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Re: miyata bumpers

How about a solid aluminium ice cream scoop ??

Leo White

Wayne van Wijk <jester2@gil.com.au> wrote in message
news:004001c04901$13228c00$25302fca@pavilion
> How about a ball shaped grip - a bit like a tow ball off a car. If mounted so
> it were facing on a downward angle it could be gripped from anywhere
and
> still maintain the same feel. It also has no sharp bits protruding which give
> peace of mind and comfort of …