We need your comments on some questions that come up during our discussions on the USA, Inc. Skills Development Committee.
Here’s the first one:
In talking about hops or jumps, how often do riders want to know whether the hop or jump was done seat-in versus seat-out?
Riders often refer to “hops” as seat-in and “jumps” as seat-out. But this isn’t always true. Sometimes they use the terms interchangeably, or they specify “hop, seat-out.”
So, if a rider says to you, “I hopped up 10 inches to a platform,” do you immediately want to know whether that was done seat-in or seat-out? Or do you not really care most of the time how it was done?
This same question applies to drops and gaps, too. Do riders generally want to know whether these are done seat-in or seat-out?
I think whenever someone says that they’ve done a hop or jump that’s their personal best I’ll want to know whether it’s in or out. When it’s above 60cm I just assume that they’ve done it seat out. Likewise for drops and gaps, however with them I don’t assume it was seat out so I’m always pretty curious. Actually I’m particularly interested whether it’s seat in or out for gaps.
I always refer to ‘ups’ as hops and never say jumps. If someone says they’ve done a ‘jump’ I don’t assume that they’ve done it seat out. Actually, come to think of it, I do say jumps but only when I’m referring to dirt jumps as in on a BMX (or UMX :)) track.
Why specify seat in or out for skill levels at all?
If a rider can hop jump whatever 10", 20, 30" high seat in or seat out does it really matter how they did it? the skill itself is being able to move your unicycle vertically. Seat out is simply a technique that some people use to jump higher.
If someone is jumping 20" or any height, seat in is that any less as a feat than if he did it seat out?
for hops i dont think it matters. most likely if its more than 20 inches its seat out. i think it would be better to say prehop and no prehop instead of seat in and seat out. but for drops and gaps i think it would be good to say. for drops especially its completely different whether its seat in or seat out.
The transitions from seat drag can be used as mounts. In particular #159, pick up seat in front/back with free foot.
If you are allowed to catch the seat with your hand i’d give it a score of 2.8 (the same as kick up mount). Freehanded I think it is a good deal harder than a kick up mount.
My friend invented a mount that’s pretty darned cool. It’s sort of like a backwards jump mount, but it’s really easy.
What you do is put the seat under you, and the wheel behind you. Then you jump, and the wheel rolls forwards and your feet land on the pedals.
The easiest way to get the pedals in the right position is start hopping before the mount, then jump forwards off of the unicycle, so the tire rolls backwards. That way, when it comes forwards again, the pedals will be in hopping position.
Hopping onto things is a Trials skill. BMX is primarily rolling, around a relatively small track.
For jumping/hopping onto things, the only other word I hear is “up.” But it might be better just to keep things specified, so people don’t need to check a glossary to know what the skill levels are saying. There is jump to a certain height, jump over a bar, and jump onto something, all of which require different levels of skill.
The difference between hop and jump is not clear either. To me a hop is something small and a jump is big, but there is no hard definition in any “official” unicycling lexicon. We have our High Jump competition event, which is obviously jumping as high as you can (big jump). In that one you have to clear a bar, in case anyone was wondering.
I hear “sidehop” used all the time, but not “sidejump.” So if you’re trying to clear some distance, it’s either a sidehop or a long jump (as in the Long Jump competition). A long jump is generally done going forward, while a sidehop is obviously done to the side.
i can hop 24" but i can only hop seat in, cos i dont ride seat out, i can make the wheel get about 6" higher up by pulling the seat forward AFTER the initial hop and tucking the wheel upwards (before pulling the seat back in to land), but theres no way i could land on anything in that position.
as for bmx…
you “jump” out of or off something, like using a ramp to kick you up. you (bunny) hop onto things. but you cant really apply the same principals… cos you cant freewheel on a unicycle… yet!