Metamorphic Joke???

I was posting a joke in the olde clean jokes gallery earlier today, but was unable to post it without tweaking it slightly, adjusting it in a way that I thought improved it a little. Subjective judgement I know, but I went on to wonder what would happen to a joke if it were repeatedly adjusted by a series of people.

So an idea I would like to try out is to slowly metamorphize the joke in a chinese whispers like way. The principle is that you take the last posted version of the joke I have included here ( previously posted by me in clean jokes), and tweak it somehow. It should remain funny, and the tweak should not be too major in a single step. The version I display here below the line is one I tweaked already, and in red I print some of the original replaced lines for comparison, and to give an idea of the principle.

Will the joke evolve to be completely different, or just a flavour change? Will it rapidly disintegrate, or might it improve? Please think carefully before you make a change, and try to be sensible.
I would suggest that once this post appears, you do not all jump in at once, but wait a few hours, or you will all be modifying the same joke version. Wait a while, so we get a chain of mods rather than a fan.

If you think it a daft idea, then please ignore the post rather than ruin it. It might work, but my guess is that it most probably will have fallen flat after a few posts.

Original extract:

No, no, just name anyone else," Dave says. “President Bush,” his boss quickly retorts.
“Yup,” Dave says, “Old buddies, let’s fly out to Washington.” And off they go. At the White House, Bush spots Dave on the tour and motions him and his boss over, saying, “Dave, what a surprise, I was just on my way to a meeting, but you and your friend come on in and let’s have a cup of coffee first and catch up.”

Well, the boss is very shaken by now but still not totally convinced. After they leave the White House grounds he expresses his doubts to Dave, who again implores him to name anyone else.


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Modified version, whole Joke

Dave was chatting to his boss one day, and mentioned that he had been in the pub with the Duke of Edinburgh the previous night. “Sod off,” said the boss, “you mean you were IN the Duke of Edinburgh”. “No, No” said Dave, “me and Phil go back quite a few years. I move in these social circles and I know more or less everyone there is to know. You could Just name someone at random, anyone, and I probably know them.”

Tired of his boasting, his boss called his bluff, “OK, Dave, how about Tom Cruise?”

“No problem boss, Tom and I are old friends, and he is staying in the Hilton this week, Time I looked him up again .”

So Dave and his boss nip into London and knock on Tom Cruise’s door and Tom opens the door and shouts, “Dave! What’s happenin?!? Great to see you! Come on in for a beer!”

Although impressed, Dave’s boss is still sceptical. After they leave Cruise’s suite , he tells Dave that he thinks Dave’s knowing Cruise was just lucky. As they leave the hotel, they are asked to keep back as a cavalcade of big American cars is about to pass. Learning that President Bush is in the open topped armoured Cadillac, the boss says " Ok, I bet you don’t know President Bush". “Of course I do, regular golfing partner” says Dave , and as the car passes he waves and calls out “Hi George”. The car stops, and George shouts to Dave, “Sorry can’t stop to chat now Dave, got a meeting in Downing Street. You remember Tony from that party last year? I’ll give you a ring later.”

Well, the boss is very shaken by now but still not totally convinced. After they leave London he expresses his doubts to Dave, who again implores him to name anyone else. “The Pope,” his boss replies. “Sure!” says Dave. “My folks are from his village, and I’ve known the Pope a long time.” So, on a whim and determined to prove Dave wrong the boss buys tickets and off they fly to Rome.

Dave and his boss are assembled with the masses in Vatican Square when Dave says,

“This will never work. I can’t catch the Pope’s eye among all these people.
Tell you what, I know all the guards so let me just go upstairs and I’ll come out on the balcony with the Pope.”

With that he disappears into the crowd headed toward the Vatican. Sure enough, half an hour later Dave emerges with the Pope on the balcony, but by the time Dave returns, he finds that his boss has had a heart attack and is surrounded by paramedics.

Working his way to his boss’ side, Dave asks him, “What happened?”

His boss looks up and says, "I was doing fine until you and the Pope came out on the balcony and the man next to me said, “Who the hell is that on the balcony with Dave?”

Nao

Hopefully I won’t completely ruin this.

Dave was chatting to his boss one day, and mentioned that he had been in the pub with the Duke of Edinburgh the previous night. “Sod off,” said the boss, “you mean you were IN the Duke of Edinburgh”. “No, No” said Dave, “me and Phil go back quite a few years. I move in these social circles and I know more or less everyone there is to know. You could Just name someone at random, anyone, and I probably know them.”

Tired of his boasting, his boss called his bluff, “OK, Dave, how about Tom Cruise?”

“No problem boss, Tom and I are old friends, and he’s filming a new movie in London this week…I should drop in and see him .”

So Dave and his boss nip into London and find Tom’s trailer and Tom opens the door and shouts, “Dave! What’s happenin?!? Great to see you! Come on in for a beer!”

Although impressed, Dave’s boss is still sceptical. After they leave Cruise’s suite , he tells Dave that he thinks Dave’s knowing Cruise was just lucky. As they leave the hotel, they are asked to keep back as a cavalcade of big American cars is about to pass. Learning that President Bush is in the open topped armoured Cadillac, the boss says " Ok, I bet you don’t know President Bush". “Of course I do, regular golfing partner” says Dave , and as the car passes he waves and calls out “Hi George”. The car stops, and George shouts to Dave, “Sorry can’t stop to chat now Dave, got a meeting in Downing Street. You remember Tony from that party last year? I’ll give you a ring later.”

Well, the boss is very shaken by now but still not totally convinced. After they leave London he expresses his doubts to Dave, who again implores him to name anyone else. “The Pope,” his boss replies. “Sure!” says Dave. “My folks are from his village, and I’ve known the Pope a long time.” So, on a whim and determined to prove Dave wrong the boss buys tickets and off they fly to Rome.

Dave and his boss are assembled with the masses in Vatican Square when Dave says,

“This will never work. I can’t catch the Pope’s eye among all these people.
Tell you what, I know all the guards so let me just go upstairs and I’ll come out on the balcony with the Pope.”

With that he disappears into the crowd headed toward the Vatican. Sure enough, half an hour later Dave emerges with the Pope on the balcony, but by the time Dave returns, he finds that his boss has had a heart attack and is surrounded by paramedics.

Working his way to his boss’ side, Dave asks him, “What happened?”

His boss looks up and says, "I was doing fine until you and the Pope came out on the balcony and the man next to me said, “Who the hell is that on the balcony with Dave?”

I’m not sure if you did it right. But I’m not really sure how to do it either.

Not to be critical or anything, but for starters, you left the mandatory line out:


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Im really confused…

Yes MM, in general that was the idea. You merely missed out the “compulsory” line, whose purpose is only to give the next guy an explanation of what is going on, if he did not read the first post.

The intrigueing bit would be to see if anyone eventually manages to change the punchline significantly

Not many other people seem to be too into this…

Nice idea, Naomi. Trouble is, I think you may have suggested the wrong joke. The structure of the joke is this: Person A claims to know many famous people. Person B challenges that. Person A passes the test with a famous person, then with a very famous person. They go to the “most famous person in the world” and someone says, “Who is that with person A?”

We have two basic humorous structures here: the rule of three, and the reversal of the normal.

Any internal changes to the joke (substituting Nelson Mandella for Tom Cruise, and Queen Elizabeth II for Bush, for example) couldn’t change the structure, or the nature of the punchline. The punchline can’t be changed first as it relies on the premisses embedded in the narrative. The narrative can’t be changed first because that would lead away from the punchline.

So you’d need to change both the structure and the punchline - which immediately makes it a different joke, and that’s not the effect Naomi wanted.

Any changes would simply add humorous details and expand on what is effectively a shaggy dog story.

Nice idea, Naomi, and one to work on, but I really think this may be the wrong joke to do it with.

That may sound a bit po-faced and boringly rational. Unfortunately, that’s the way my mind works, and I’ve been “into” jokes all my life to the extent that 9 times out of 10, when I read the first paragraph, I can identify the “format” and predict the punchline. It’s no fun being me.:o

Crawls back into box.

Hey Mikefule, how’d the chicken cross the road?

That’s good, because that unstructured start gives smething that Naomi’s idea would work on. It could be amended lots of ways. Change “how’d” to “why did…” or “when did…”. All sorts of different answers to the question are possible. You could start the joke with, “Did you hear about the chicken who crossed the road?” or “Two chickens were crossing the road…” etc.

But in answer to your questionthe chicken only half crossed the road before being run over by a grain truck. Police are looking for a cereal killer.

:frowning:

Very cool! Are there any comedians or comnedy shows you nonetheless enjoy, and laugh at?

There was a chicken boasting to his hen one day, and mentioned that he just happened to have crossed a famous road just a few weeks ago. “Sod off,” the hen says, “you mean you scratched up an old paper with the road’s name on the front page.” “No, no,” said the chicken…

Friggin’ intellectuals… How do they always manage to get on the invite list? :wink:

ok can someone read all that outloud to me.

Fair comment Mike, I did foresee that any punchline change would be very difficult, and did feel that the “rule of three” made it fairly easy to change the rest. So no worries if the thread finds an early grave.

It’s even less fun being me: my memory for jokes is disastrous. I listen to the joke avidly, and only on reaching the punchline do I realise I have heard it before.

“Boringly rational”: I can understand that. I recently took part in a charity abseil down a high building. Watching a couple of terrified participants disappear over the edge of the building I wondered why the fright. They had all the safety gear, instructors, thick new ropes, so why were they scared? My turn came, and OK good view, no better than that from the roof, but because I had analysed the danger level in the situation there was no fear at all. On reaching the bottom my lack of extra adrenilin was apparent. Everyone else was bouncing with excitement. I missed out on that. I was boringly rational, and regretted it.

Nao

I know that feeling. I went to “Go Ape!” which involves swinging through the treetops and walking on narrow rope bridges 40 feet above the ground. I just thought, “But I have a safety harness.”

Worse still, a friend of mine used to be a climbing instructor, and was married to a climber who ran an outdoor equipment shop in the heart of the Lake District. After moving to Nottingham, she did a charity abseil. The people running it were most disgruntled when she just clipped on, jumped off, went down in one long glide, clipped off and walked away.

Back to BTM’s question. Yes, Billy, I do laugh at funny shows and funny writing - even when the punchline is predictable. I laugh if it’s done well and presented well. I laugh at topical humour, clever plays on words, and humour comng from character.

Back to the chicken:

“How’d the chicken! cross the road!”
“Not likely!” said Howard the chicken. “There’s a grain truck coming.”

You were boringly contained within a profound illusion of safety.

I hate to tell you, but danger is always an option, and you definitely increased yours by taking part in that activity.

Planes crash into buildings, guys in charge of rapelling ropes go crazy and slice off. Just yesterday, they arrested a guy in NYC who had been driving around all day shooting at people in RED vehicles. Killed one and injured several others.

Tomorrow someone like him may choose to shoot a people rapelling off a building. When psychologists “cure” someone of PTSD, they restore the illusion of safety, and help keep the person out of touch with the awful reality that we are not truly safe anywhere.

Billy

I think I would have put myself in more danger by crossing the road and watching from the coffee shop. :wink:

Nao

You’re on to something. I don’t mean to make you sweat! :smiley: