MAC-Win98 NEtwork

Ok, now beofre I even start, I’d love to get some real expensive server
and upgrade to Win2000, but that’s out of the question. My aunt just moved
in with us and she has a MAC G4(not my decision) while we’ve got a Win98
SE PC. Now we’d like to network the two computers. Will we need to get
some software to network them or can we do it with that crappy MS stuff on
this PC? I remember someone mentioning an inexpensive product from Seagate
or some other S. Also is it possible to just connect NIC to NIC? Or is
anyone aware of a cheaper but good USB appliance that will work. Thought I
remeber seeing some USb hub or something, though they are probably not
very good. Speed is not a nessesity here, we would just like some
flexibility. Thanks


Brian Wilmot http://www.jumpnow.net/ http://www.uglybillboards.com/ “You
can die but you’re never dead” - Red Hot Chili Peppers

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:56:00 -0400, Brian Wilmot wrote (in message
<9c2c61$shn$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com>):

> Ok, now beofre I even start, I’d love to get some real expensive server
> and upgrade to Win2000, but that’s out of the question. My aunt just
> moved in with us and she has a MAC G4(not my decision) while we’ve got a
> Win98 SE PC. Now we’d like to network the two computers. Will we need to
> get some software to network them or can we do it with that crappy MS
> stuff on this PC? I remember someone mentioning an inexpensive product
> from Seagate or some other S. Also is it possible to just connect NIC to
> NIC? Or is anyone aware of a cheaper but good USB appliance that will
> work. Thought I remeber seeing some USb hub or something, though they
> are probably not very good. Speed is not a nessesity here, we would just
> like some flexibility. Thanks

You have several choices on doing this:

You can get PCMacLan and run it on the PC side, it gives AppleTalk
services to the PC (I have never used this, but we have it at work and
they would like me to get it working for them).

I’m almost sure that you can just use a crossover cable and some FTP
(NetPresenz http://www.stairways.com/netpresenz/) software on the Mac side
to allow FTP transfers back and forth.

I use a combination of IPNetRouter (http://www.sustainworks.com) and DAVE
(http://www.thursby.com). IPNetrouter allows the Mac to use the
multi-homing abilities built into TCP/IP on the Mac, much nicer than
having to switch between Ethernet and PPP all the time. DAVE allows the
Mac to be seen as a PC on a PC network and also allows the Mac access to
any shared resources on the PC. I use it with our computers here and this
combination works flawlessly for us. The Mac has a dial-up connection and
one PC has a dial-up connection, our other PC/Linux machine share the
dial-up connect from the Mac via IPNetRouter, both PCs see the Mac as just
another PC on a LAN. For us this has been by far the most flexible option,
but far from being the least expensive option though (IPNetRouter, DAVE, 5
port 10/100 Switch, Cat 5 cables).

Thursby also has a newer less expensive product called Mac SOHO.

Some additional sites: http://wcic.cioe.com/~galanti/
http://www.macwindows.com/ http://www.rugebregt.com/rudy/MacPCLan.html
http://www.threemacs.com/network/index.html

Side note: It is spelled Mac and not MAC. Mac = Apple Macintosh Computer
MAC = Media Access Control :wink:


Scott

Dohmation - Clay Animation and Flash Fun http://www.dohmation.com/

All these things should work though if we only have two computers
connected to each other through nics right?


Brian Wilmot http://www.jumpnow.net/ http://www.uglybillboards.com/ “You
can die but you’re never dead” - Red Hot Chili Peppers “Scott S”
<Scott@_lessSpam_dohmation.com> wrote in message
news:01HW.B70A7757000267FF0DCAF970@news.worldwebserver.com
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:56:00 -0400, Brian Wilmot wrote (in message
> <9c2c61$shn$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com>):
>
> > Ok, now beofre I even start, I’d love to get some real expensive
> > server
and
> > upgrade to Win2000, but that’s out of the question. My aunt just moved
in
> > with us and she has a MAC G4(not my decision) while we’ve got a
> > Win98 SE
PC.
> > Now we’d like to network the two computers. Will we need to get some
> > software to network them or can we do it with that crappy MS stuff on
this
> > PC? I remember someone mentioning an inexpensive product from Seagate
> > or some other S. Also is it possible to just connect NIC to NIC? Or is
anyone
> > aware of a cheaper but good USB appliance that will work. Thought I
remeber
> > seeing some USb hub or something, though they are probably not very
good.
> > Speed is not a nessesity here, we would just like some flexibility.
Thanks
>
>
> You have several choices on doing this:
>
> You can get PCMacLan and run it on the PC side, it gives AppleTalk
services
> to the PC (I have never used this, but we have it at work and they would
like
> me to get it working for them).
>
> I’m almost sure that you can just use a crossover cable and some FTP
> (NetPresenz http://www.stairways.com/netpresenz/) software on the
> Mac side
to
> allow FTP transfers back and forth.
>
> I use a combination of IPNetRouter (http://www.sustainworks.com) and
> DAVE (http://www.thursby.com). IPNetrouter allows the Mac to use the
multi-homing
> abilities built into TCP/IP on the Mac, much nicer than having to
> switch between Ethernet and PPP all the time. DAVE allows the Mac to be
> seen as a
PC
> on a PC network and also allows the Mac access to any shared
> resources on
the
> PC. I use it with our computers here and this combination works
> flawlessly for us. The Mac has a dial-up connection and one PC has
> a dial-up
connection,
> our other PC/Linux machine share the dial-up connect from the Mac via
> IPNetRouter, both PCs see the Mac as just another PC on a LAN. For us
> this has been by far the most flexible option, but far from being
the
> least expensive option though (IPNetRouter, DAVE, 5 port 10/100 Switch,
Cat 5
> cables).
>
> Thursby also has a newer less expensive product called Mac SOHO.
>
> Some additional sites: http://wcic.cioe.com/~galanti/
> http://www.macwindows.com/ http://www.rugebregt.com/rudy/MacPCLan.html
> http://www.threemacs.com/network/index.html
>
>
> Side note: It is spelled Mac and not MAC. Mac = Apple Macintosh
> Computer MAC = Media Access Control
>
> –
> Scott
>
> Dohmation - Clay Animation and Flash Fun http://www.dohmation.com/

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:09:28 -0400, Brian Wilmot wrote (in message
<9c54rg$tqp$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com>):

> All these things should work though if we only have two computers
> connected to each other through nics right?

Yes, but you will find out that the Mac will have to be turned on last
with this type of setup. It becomes a pain after a while, having to
remember to turn the Mac on last. I would suggest that you spend the
$30-$50 and get a small hub, life will be much easier then.


Scott

Dohmation - Clay Animation and Flash Fun http://www.dohmation.com/