Learning Journal

The importance of this thread

One of the most important things about this thread is that it is a way of gauging the number of active learners to the sport of unicycling. In this way, we can get an idea of how the sport of Unicycling is growing. When I first started learning, I found my way to this forum and I suspect others will do so as well. I get the impression that it’s not really growing by leaps and bounds, but is more or less remaining static. Perhaps this is a good thing. None of us got into this because it was trendy. Still, it’s good to keep track of new unicyclists.

I don’t know how indicative it is. I read the entire thread before I got my learner. When I started learning, I didn’t feel that I had anything to add. So, at a minimum, you’d be missing my datapoint by using the thread as a metric. It is fairly safe to assume that I am not alone in that, and it is not safe to assume any particular percentage of participation or that it would remain constant over time. Your ultimate observation may be correct, but I don’t think the methodology is. Even if you could rigorously collect metrics from posts here, we are but a subset of unicyclists. I have a friend who is learning, and though I have pointed him to these forums (fora?), may not have actually read here, much less posted/commented.

FWIW, I started learning partway through December, had a month off due to illness (not unicycling-related), and am now riding multiple miles around my nontrivially hilly neighborhood and neighboring ones. Without the benefit of a tennis court or other such adequate practice space. You can learn on a bumpy, sloped driveway without a fence, rail, or wall, but it does steepen the learning curve.

As Jigywigy says…
I am one of those that have barged in on occasion. Thanks NSYO for starting this. It is a great resource for those learning as it is a one stop shop for new uni riders to get both ideas and support -even if NSYO didn’t mean for it to be. All those individual threads get lost and buried as the person stops posting and the info for a new learner who want to just lurk is lost.
:slight_smile: The support on here is just Great !

I’ve been riding for nearly 3 years now.:slight_smile: …Still learning.
A few weeks ago I mentioned that I might have another try on my 29’. It’s been unused for quite a while now. in fact the tyre was flat and it was covered in dust :frowning:
Anyways up, I’m off on my hols next week and I’m only gonna take one uni with me…and it’s gonna be my 29’’. I will have no choice then, I will have to make a go of it ;)…actually it’s the thought of the Haribo from jojoxie that is spurring me on Tee Hee.
I’m hoping to be riding along some quiet roads in the Scottish Highlands for two weeks, no muni. So the big apple tyre on it should be about right. I’m going to take 125/150 and 137/165 cranks and see how I get on…oooh hope I’m doing the right thing here…

Alucard

Alucard,
not sure what the 29er problem is but try dropping your seat 15 to 20 mm. I find that makes it easier to mount, don’t have a problem with feeling ‘up high’ but if you do it should help that too.

Cheers and have fun with the haggis and whatever

Hey Alucard…The Starmix are ready and waiting :D…you can do it!!!
The 29er is not much taller than the 26x3" you already ride…I would stick with the length of crank on the 29" that you are most comfortable with on your 26".

Enjoy the Highlands…remember to pack your snowboard :wink:

The learning curve is daunting.

And get ready for an explosion of hipsters in your scene; I smell them coming.

mounting a 36’r

After several weeks of practice, I’m starting to get the hang of mounting the 36’r. I’m still not real consistent, but getting there.
My friend (who is currently learning to ride) made this video today at noon and posted it on Youtube.

Hi LanceB…that mount looks very proficient.

Very stylish! It must feel amazing to do that.

I notice that you seem to give the wheel a little bit of a roll forward. It looks it’s just enough for it to stop when you put your left foot on. What’s the name for this type of freemount?

(Is there a good name/diagram reference somewhere for different freemount methods? I haven’t found one.)

Thanks for the positive feedback!
Terry “the Unigeezer” has posted several videos on Youtube on mounting technique, I suggest watching those, they are very helpful.
Yes, I have adopted kind of a “two-step” method that seems to work for me. The object is to keep the uni from going backwards. The wheel has so much circular momentum that it is hard to get it to change direction rapidly. The extra step provides a little forward momentum that helps get me up onto the seat, and helps keep the thing moving forward.
I still have a long ways to go, I’ve been working on it for a couple of weeks, and have had exactly 5 successful tries. But the last three were this afternoon, and they were almost 3-in-a-row, so it felt like I was finally getting the technique down.
And yes, it’s a GREAT feeling to get up there and get going without having to hang onto something first! (Besides Terry’s helpful advice, I found it very helpful to practice going very slowly for a while – getting down to where it was almost stopped, and then get going again. Because that’s what you have to do to make this happen, you start out from a standing stop, or almost a stop, once you get in the saddle.)

I’d seen the one with the paper dish and the egg, How to Free Mount a Unicycle - Secrets Revealed. I watched another one that I don’t recall seeing before, 36er - UniGeezer Coker Unicycle Guide & Mounting Tutorial, where he shows what he calls the three most common mounts. “static,” “step-up jump mount,” and “rolling step-up jump mount.” That was good. Seems very useful.

There are a lot of other ones though, or a lot of other names I’ve seen anyway. It seems like there ought to be a page somewhere with a list of free mount methods and a short description of each one. But maybe I’m being an old fogey about it. Maybe it doesn’t work that way any more. :slight_smile:

My latest update:

I didn’t get to ride last weekend, with the weather anything but ideal plus work to catch up on. On Wednesday I got out on the patio for an hour or so, just pedaling forward and backward along the wall. I understand that it’s not so great to keep depending on a support like that for too long, but I feel like I’m still getting a lot out of it, developing my fore-aft (pitch axis) equilibrium and finding out where in the pedal cycle I need to weight the pedals and where I shouldn’t be doing that.

On Thursday I didn’t try to ride, but I was excited to get the Maxxis Hookworm tire I’d ordered for my 26" muni. (Still nowhere near ready to try that one yet but it’s fun having it to look to forward to.) I also went ahead and switched the tire out on the 20" Avenir I’ve been riding.

Commenting in Uni Lateral’s journal topic, I mentioned that I thought the stock 1.75" wide tire might just not have enough air volume for a grown man riding on anything other than a perfectly smooth hard surface. It seemed like there was a very small range in pressure between enough to keep the rim off the ground and so much that every crack and bump just about stopped it.

I had a pair of 20" IRC Flatlander tires sitting in the shed that I’d bought for a bike project that wound up not happening and I gave some reasons why I hadn’t tried swapping one of those on yet. But in the process of writing I realized that it was probably as good a time as any to switch. And I’m glad I did. The 1.95" IRC tire is about 1/2" bigger in overall diameter and it measures out with the calipers at 1.85" actual width versus 1.60" for the stock Duro. (Photo below.) The profiles are pretty different but I’m guessing it’s about 25-30% more total volume. And it really does feel smoother and a lot less twitchy to ride, much better at handling the surfaces I’m trying to ride on.

(There’s some frosty white stuff on it that resulted from being stored through a couple of summers in a shed where it gets pretty warm. I believe it’s a kind of wax that’s compounded into the rubber, that’s supposed to migrate to the surface to protect it from UV sunlight damage. I scrubbed some of it off with citrus cleaner but it didn’t scrub very well. Nearly all of what was left came off when I rode it though, after taking the photo and re-installing the wheel.)

This evening (Friday) I rode for well over two hours and it went pretty well. After warming up on the familiar patio, I moved to the driveway, where I’d had no success at all on my first outing three weeks ago. This time I had many well controlled rides, some beyond 25 feet. I also found that getting mounted up had become much less of a touchy business. Basically I brace myself on whatever’s handy, get my feet on the pedals, push off, and sort it out once I’m rolling. It feels like I’m still a long way from free mounting but that’s gotta be a step in the right direction.

After that I went back to the patio and worked for a long time on riding off the edge and continuing across the lawn–now that I’m using a tire that’s wide enough to handle a little bit of rough terrain. I experienced some pretty spectacular wipe-outs but my pads and helmet did their job, and at best I was able to cover three or four full crank turns on the grass several times.

All in all, it was a good evening of practice and I’m really happy with the bigger tire. I’ll never know how much of the improvement was due to the tire and how much due to being a couple of days more experienced, but the tire seems to suit what I’m trying to do a lot better, and the switch-over never set back my progress at all. I’m definitely feeling the after-effects of a long hard practice session about now but I’m eager to get out and try it again some more this weekend.

Two more sessions to report on. Saturday I went to a city park, not the same one where I went to buy the 26" muni but the same kind of place. I had the rather wishful idea that since the weather was on the cool side, it might not be too crowded despite it being a holiday weekend. Wrong!

The place I wound up choosing to practice was in front of a log cabin-style utility building that has several wooden posts holding up a front porch. I spent around an hour working there but never really got it going. I guess adapting to new surroundings is something I need to keep working on.

I took yesterday off and hadn’t planned to work on it today either. I wanted to get out on the road on a bicycle for a while so I rode 15 miles or thereabouts, but when I got home I was feeling the itch to spend at least a few minutes on the uni. I took it out to the concrete driveway and spent about 40 minutes going up and down there. Shaky at first but I had some nice controlled rides toward the end. It’s humbling to reflect on the fact that I’ve been trying to do this for almost a month now, but one small step at a time I guess.

Two points of emphasis today: Head up with eyes on a distant point of reference, and ride out every attempt for as long as I possibly could. For the latter of the two, I had the thought that open two-dimensional areas might be better than linear paths, especially if they’re narrow. It helps to be able to swerve around as much as needed when trying to stay on top of the wheel. Anxiety about running out of pavement or crashing into some obstacle doesn’t help at all there.

Hi LargeEddie, It took me a good month before I could ride even a short distance…try to think of keeping the wheel under you rather than trying to stay on top of it…subtle difference I know but it helped me.

Good luck and have fun,
Joseph.

I would say to do the opposite, and bail out early! Don’t go down with the ship; that’s a good way to get hurt. As soon as you start to lose it, push the unicycle out from under you, or hop off it, or kick it away with one foot while the other food heads for the ground.

The unicycle won’t get hurt, and you aren’t learning much by desperately continuing to pedal when you’re out of control.

Hmmm… Yeah, I don’t think I can quite see the difference sitting here in my computer chair. I’ll make a point of giving it some thought next time I’m riding. It might be more apparent then. It’s an interesting idea.

Well that’s pretty much been my modus operandi. But here I was thinking more along the lines of “vary your mistakes,” that maybe I’ve been tending to give up too soon on rides that could have been saved if I’d stayed in the saddle and fought for it for another half a crank.

Oh, I’m actually trying to hurt it! I’m rather proud of the sueded texture the seat bumpers have acquired. You can’t buy one like that. You have to earn it. :slight_smile:

Mainly what I was trying to see was whether I could keep it under control even though it felt like it was out of control. It’s tricky though. We all have our tendencies, I think, some to be too reckless, some to be too careful. Most of the time, yeah, my sense of whether I could save it or not was probably pretty accurate. But even if I only saved it one time in ten, that one seems like a thing I ought to be learning.

Very good points though… I’ve got my helmet and pads and I’m definitely trying not to get hurt.

Hey LargeEddie

Sounds like you’re getting along really well. :). It took me about five months to be able to ride away from a wall. I’m still not much cop, but it’s fun :smiley:

Think BOS! ( bum on seat) I picture my bum weighing a ton :p. and pushing down on the saddle.

The main thing that helped me to get away from the fence was when I learned to fail differently :smiley: (Yes, F A I L )

If I was coming off to the left a lot, I’d concentrate on falling off to the right a few times. If I was going off the front, I’d try to step off the back. Each engineered failure obviously designed to take place after some pedal revolutions.

It may sound weird, but this taught my brain/body machine how to balance on my unicycle. It eventually found the middle way by knowing what all four ‘wrong’ directions felt like.

Try it sometime? :wink:

I’ve started doing this too. I keep finding myself giving up and dismounting rather than trying different things to recover. The downside is that it does lead to some painful UPDs. It’s amazing what petty things seem to make me stop…a stone on the path, a puddle and, tonight, a snail!

UL

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