LASIK eye procedure

Well, I’m sorry I intruded in your little thread. I did actually post information that I thought was relevant, and got called an ‘immature brat’ for it. If you’re like this to everyone, your eye surgeon will probably gouge your eyes out.

There is a great Simpsons episode that flashes 20 years into the future, and you see the outcome of LASIX on Ned FLanders 20 years later.

I have a buddy whose doctor did not calibrate the machine correctly, so his vision is a bit worse in his best eye.

I think it’s important to check out the specific doctor, not just the doctor’s own web page. I have a feeling you dont want any bargain basement docs, and you may want to travel to a bigger city, instead of having it done in your own po-dunk town. Why take chances with a doctor who is in lala land?

If by linking to three great sites, the first one probably the best on the issue, with tons of info that would answer all your questions, and things you probably haven’t even thought or knew aobut it before, is being a little punk, then I am damn proud to be a ‘little punk’.

  1. You were born blind.

I was born with astigmatism.

  1. You had to live with getting new glasses every 2 years for 46 years since the age of 4.

This one applies to me somewhat, except since I was 7, and for 10 years.

  1. You had save forever to afford the surgery.

Yeah, I probably would have to.

Too many people see it as a cure all. Certainly it can change the effective lens shape, and hence focusable distances, but I don’t think it can compensate for other ageing problems.
I read there is a tendency to go long sighted at about 40-45, and I guess this possibly can be fixed. But also I understand the ability to change focus is reduced at about the same age, and as this, I believe, is a muscular problem, you will never regain the sight you had as an eighteen year old.

However generally speaking I think most who have the process are happy.

Nao

Ok why such the harsh reaction? :thinking:
The ignor list is there and waiting :wink:

He can’t see that there is an ignore list, that’s why he’s getting the surgery I presume.

I would put a lol but If he is being serious it would be rude :wink:

Speak for yourself. Don’t you know anybody who wears glasses, who has worn them from a young age? If you don’t know as many people in their forties, maybe you should give them the benefit of the doubt?

I have “aging” eyes, and got reading glasses last year. My distance vision is still fine, though not quite what it once was. But I’m the only one in my family that didn’t have glasses since the 1970s.

My wife Jacquie has had glasses since she was six months old. You know that had to be a pretty serious vision problem to be obvious before she could talk. When she was little, if her mom wanted her to be quiet, she’d take off her glasses. I don’t think she realized at the time that it cut her off from the rest of the world. When she was in first grade she almost ended up going to a school for the blind, but her teacher asked to give her a chance. That was a great teacher, as she remained in regular school and did fine.

So recently she went to see about getting lasik for herself. Unfortunately her vision situation is one that would not get her any meaningful benefits from the procedure; not enough to outweigh the minor risks. So instead she found herself a really cool designer glasses store and got some really cool looking frames!

I think Jacquie’s advice for you would be to research your doctors. Don’t go by simply whoever’s done the most procedures. Though this is a good metric, it’s meaningless if it doesn’t have a high success/satisfaction rate. Probably the best way to find a good doctor is with a combination of research and personal recommendations from people who have had the procedure.

Its supposed to be painless, but hearing it explained makes it sound really painful (to me anyway)

the normal operation is not suposed to be that painful were they cut the surface of the eye and pell it back but one of my friends is going into the air force and has to get it done were instead of the normal procedure the acually scrape off the top layer of your eye and then do the surgery and then the next for days are very painful as the surface grows back.

How was your results?

ME TOO! lose’m or break’m

Sweet.:smiley:

I’m getting one eye for distance and the other for reading or close up.

Sorry Brah, that’s tough.
I had 20/15 or better all my life. I didn’t take it for granted. I’m glad I never had glasses or contacts. 8 years ago the lenses in my eyes gradually starting to get stiff and don’t focus like they use too. I would buy drug store reading glasses. I found as my reading glass power would go up(1.25 to 2.25) the weak glasses(1.25) started working for distance.
That means I need bifocals. :astonished: So I saw an eye doctor for the 1st time two years ago. He said that I have all ready figured out my own prescription. But now what do I do? I wore contacts for the 1st time couple months ago only to give me a trial look into the future. The future is Lasik in two weeks, Friday.

That’s Great! How are they doing?

scary, I keep an eye on that.

Good one. That’s me.
But I believe the lens isn’t as pliable as it was. And that why I have to get one eye for close sight and one for far sight.

Far sight is anything farther than a outreached arm(>3 feet or 1 meter).
My reading eye will be a little fuzzy for distance.
I’m not an eighteen year old.:wink:

Save your weak ones(glasses) for TV later. Or are you doing that yet?

I feel good about my Doc and her latest up-to-date equipment.

Hopefully, another happy customer.

Update: My puppy ate my original, prescription reading glasses. He didn’t really eat them, but he ruined them. So I got a pair of inexpensive reading glasses at a store and they’ve been fine. Only problem is not bringing them to dim restaurants. Vision is still fine at distance, and I can still read (most) things at arm’s length.

Let us know how your Lasik goes!

John,

Did you ever get around to reading the book another thread (where I accidentally wrote an essay in response to a spammer).

Don’t waste money going to the Dr. Unless you want designer frames.

I have about 10 pairs of cheap glasses from places like sav-a-lot or Dollar stores. Power ranges from 1.25 to 3.0
I need no glasses for Muni or outdoors activities. (unless my uni breaks and I have to look at small parts).
1.25 for Tv, around the house, or to the store.
2.0 to 2.25 computer, newspaper
3.0 bathroom mirror, medicine labels.

Anybody have success with the ‘‘relearning to see’’ booK?

I don’t think it works for:

Presbyopia (Greek word “presbus” (πρέσβυς), meaning “old person”) describes the condition where the eye exhibits a progressively diminished ability to focus on near objects with age. Presbyopia’s exact mechanisms are not known with certainty, however, the research evidence most strongly supports a loss of elasticity of the crystalline lens although changes in the lens’s curvature from continual growth and loss of power of the ciliary muscles (the muscles that bend and straighten the lens) have also been postulated as its cause.

I get lasik on the 1st day of moab muni fest…13 days!

This made me laugh. Guy needs a pen name.

Relearning to See: Improve Your Eyesight – Naturally! (Paperback)
by Thomas R. "Quack"enbush (Author)

Well, the man Dr. William Bates himself is listed on QuackWatch, so he’s in good company!

Yes, Bates got some things wrong. Including how the eye accomodates (focuses). And he goes against the establishment. But I’ve seen a friend use the techniques and create a huge improvement in his vision. It was temporary, but had he stuck with it for more than 15 minutes, who knows where it would have led. I don’t know why he didn’t persist. That should have been a huge motivator.

The extrinsic eye muscles squeezing the eye out of shape is the only reasonable explanation for how my eye continues to deform (get longer – I have myopia). Even my angle of astigmatism changes. Why is my prescription getting stronger and stronger? In other words, how is my eye getting longer and longer well into adulthood? If someone could explain that to me AND give a plausible explanation how my friend could suddenly read the eye chart several lines down from where he previously could, maybe I’ll consider that the Bates Method is quackery. But for now, I’m convinced. The Relearning to See book updates the Bates book with improved terminology and other corrections to the techniques (such as DON’T stare into the sun with open eyes).

Your error of refraction is NOT fixed. I read books without my glasses and my vision improves slightly. But when I put my glasses back on and read that same book, I feel a significant strain in my eyes (which isn’t there if I read the book with my glasses on the whole time). Corrective lenses lock in your problem and prevent improvement. In fact, improvement is rewarded with blurry vision. Being prescribed corrective lenses is like being told, after spraining your ankle, that you will have to walk with crutches for the rest of your life. The former is never questioned, but the latter would be met with hostility.

Just to be clear. I wasn’t judging his ideas one way or the other. It was just the idea of a natural medicine guy going by the name quack… was funny to me.

Oh I know that! I’m sorry. When I proofread my post, I thought about making it clear that I understood you were just refering to his unfortunate name, but I ended up pressing Submit without adding that comment. I started off just making the connection to the QuackWatch site, but ended up going much further. Thanks! Actually, I think it’s funny too, except that I cringe every time I tell someone about Tom Quackenbush, because I know what must be flashing through the other person’s mind. He is nonetheless the world’s leading authority on the work of the “quack” Dr. William Bates of New York.

UPDATE: My eyes are doing great and I can see just as good now as I could after the surgery! Good luck critter! Does that mean you won’t be at MOAB?! :frowning: