Kh20fl discontinued?

I was looking on the kris holm website and the kh20fl looks to be perfect for me. I’m looking to buy a uni that will last and not need replacing. And this seems strong enough to start doing tricks and with the option to use a trails wheel it covers most bases. And the flatland wheel will be faster and smoother for going places.
But I emailed municycle and he says it’s discontinued. If so, why was it?
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I assume it was discontinued because very few people bought it. You can still build up a custom one yourself though. You’ll have to select a wheel but the other parts can be the same.

Ok. So I guess a regular kh20 is the choice then.

The long neck looks best, am I tall enough at 5,9"? I’m a 30 in pant size. So I guess about 34 crotch to floor.

Yeah you’re tall enough, I ride one at 5’7" with long cranks.

Like mentioned I assume because there’s not enough market for it. I am surprised it was designed and built in the first place. I originally had it, but soon realized I wanted a fatter tire and wanted to do some trials too, so it turned out that a trials wheel set was more versatile. Most flatlanders use trials wheels and maybe shorter cranks. I would have kept the flatland wheel but I needed the money so I sold it on the trading post and just bought the trials wheelset from UDC.

Once in a while I feel like I want a freestyle uni, which I’ll probably pick up used one of these days when I have some extra $.

Although come to think of it I do have a 24" freestyle uni, my first uni of my own–the 24" Sem, but I’d want a true 20.

I was looking for one too for similar reasons – basically wanting a robust and versatile ride for learning the basic skills. I’ve got the trials version and it’s brilliant, but when I rode a true freestyle machine (narrow, high pressure tire, shorter cranks) there was a fun-factor that was really appealing (at least on a smooth surface). I don’t claim to even know what flatland is, but the flatland KH seemed like the ideal machine for what I wanted.

I chose to piece one together from parts, but my understanding is they still have a several of them available at the latin america store (http://unicycle-la.com). I don’t know if the shipping cost is prohibitive or not. And the site is in spanish, but you can use the Chrome browser to auto-translate it english or whatever.

Ok. Thinking about it the longer cranks would be better for getting around the town and stuff. I can always get a 20" wheel later.
Or just run the 19 at higher pressure for riding longer distance.

Hey crunchies. So you mentioned getting around town – are you sure you want a 20"? Take this with a grain of salt since I’m one of the least experienced riders on here, but if you want to get somewhere then you might want something larger.

At my riding level (which is novice), and assuming I wanted a single uni for learning, skills, getting across town, etc. (basically everything except jumping off picnic tables or doing long-distance), then I’d be looking at a 24 or 26. Others?

Hey crunchies. So you mentioned getting around town – are you sure you want a 20"? Take this with a grain of salt since I’m one of the least experienced riders on here, but if you want to get somewhere then you might want something larger.

At my riding level (which is novice), and assuming I wanted a single uni for learning, skills, getting across town, etc. (basically everything except jumping off picnic tables or doing long-distance), then I’d be looking at a 24 or 26. Others?

When I say getting around. I mean quick blasts to the store. From the train to classes around uni etc. nothing more than a couple of km at a time. I think a 20 will be more versatile, and easier to learn on.

It’s a tough call if you can only afford one. Maybe a 24…you could learn some tricks on it and you could use it for muni and even some trials.

How tall are you? Unless you are really big a 26 would be a bit much for learning tricks, esp for a beginner. Even a 24 can be pushing it.

If I could only have one unicycle it would probably be a 24 with dual hole cranks. Probably 110/137s. But that’s a sad thought only having one.

The problem with the 24, of course, is tire selection. But there are enough street tires out there along with the duro that it could be versatile enough, esp with dual holes, or two sets of cranks.

i’m 5’9" or so… wear a 30 inseam in pants, so around 34 from crotch to floor.

Actually I take that back about a lot of 24" street tires. I was thinking about for my sem, which has a narrower rim. I am not sure about muni rims. There used to be the hookworm, but I think it’s not sold anymore.

You could always sand the knobs off a 24" mountain tire.

Given your size, I’d think about a 24" muni, which would be OK for some trials type riding, street riding, and with the right tire, some scooting around town.

Or, get a 20" to learn and keep for learning tricks, then when you can afford it and/or feel you need it, get a 26 or 29".

I think a 20 will be my first choice because then friends and family can have a go too. A 24 would be nice one day.

Back to the original discussion.

If you want a KH 20fl I figured out how to get one. It’ll have to be new and it’ll cost $700, you could probably do it for a bit less if you were careful. municycle.ca has one of the rims in stock and you’ll have to get them to build it up with other parts.

They offered to build it up for me for the same price as the regular kh20. I’m guessing they’d just swap the rim and tyre. Which could be good as I’d get the trials cranks and pedals with a true 20" rim.

But now I’m unsure which way to go! I like the longer cranks and stuff of the trials one. But I do like the versatility of a true 20" wheel. I’d probably get a trials rim and tyre too at some point.
I am thinking the 20" would be good for learning on. And the longer cranks will be good for cruising.

No, shorter cranks are better for cruising.
Either one would make a great learning unicycle.

but longer are better for hills etc right?

anyway i guess whichever i choose it would have the trails cranks, as it would only be the rim and tyre thats changed.

Longer gives more control and torque for hill climbing.

There’s another path to a KH flatland. UDC currently has an Impact 20" Muni on their front page that’s built with a KH Hub and the true 20" KH flatland rim. You could start with that, then swap out the tire, cranks & frame as you see fit (the 110 moment cranks are even on sale). I don’t think it’s cheaper than a new KH20FL, but you could upgrade as necessary and you’d have some nice spares and config options as well. That’s what I did.