Itunes, napster SUCKS!

I can’t convert Itunes to mp3s so I can import them to moviemaker! Same story with napster; there stuff IS already mp3-the format that works with moviemaker, but their stuff is copy-protected too! So I guess I just have to buy WHOLE cds where I’m lucky if 1 or 2 songs are good and the rest is crap-olla! Sucks!

Can’t you burn the songs to a cd then rip them off?

p.s. did you mean to put this in RSU?

Hmmm. I didn’t think of that. That’s sure a lot to have to go through though!

No, you can’t.
I don’t know about Napster, but iTunes are protected so that they can’t be in more than one place at once…to explain.

If you buy song A on the iTunes Music Store, you can do a few things with it…burn it to a cd, put it on your iPod, whatever. However, part of the software is a protection thing that “locks” song A in iTunes after you burn it/put in on your iPod. Meaning after you burn it to a CD, that’s the only place the song can go, aside from your iPod. If you put it on your iPod, you can’t burn it to a CD.

If you do end up putting in on a CD, you can’t rip it to another computer.

Now, everything I just said could possibly be wrong, as I heard it from my dad, and haven;t tried for myself, but my dad works for Philips, and works with things like this, so I;m pretty sure he’s right.

There’s no way to copy protect sound. They just force you to do some extra work. I’m pretty sure you can find the software to remeove the copy protection. Burning and ripping should work, but if all else fails you can re-record with minimal loss of quality with a line-in cable to another computer.

if you have a mac then just use audio hijack to get whatever song you want, duhhhhh,
thats one more reason to buy a mac

I have bought songs from itunes (I didnt put them on an ipod because I don’t have one.) Once it was in the library thing I clicked the burn cd button and I ripped it back off with a different computer, it works. Thats how I got the music and edited my last movie.

Actually, you’re mistaken. Once you burn music to a true audio CD in itunes, the copy protection is gone, and the music can be re-ripped on any computer.

Unfortunately, since AAC and MP3 are both “lossy” formats, re-ripping an iTunes-burned CD to mp3 is like making a photocopy of a photocopy - some audio quality will be lost.

Like others have said in this thread, there are (illegal in the United States) ways to directly strip the copy protection from the files, making it easy to convert between formats without losing any more audio quality. I’ll go out on a limb and suggest that jHymn ( http://hymn-project.org/jhymndoc/ ) will strip the copy protection from files for any iTunes version prior to 6.0. They’re currently working on breaking the newest protection layer, and hopefully 6.0 will be included soon.

Using the music in a home-video is legal and falls under the “fair-use” category. Unfortunately, the actual act of removing the copy protection violates the DMCA (google for more info). That’s what you get when corporate greed buys congress.

Theres a program called Virtuosa that can copy songs from mp3-wav, wav-mp3 etc (many more options). It also lets you burn copy protected mp3s into non protected versions. But you only get a 30 day trial for free. So DL everything you want for free off itunes or napster then copy them. Or search bittorrent sites, you can often DL albums or artist discographies as one big folder. This is what I do.

Edit: http://www.virtuosa.com/

You can’t burn music that is copy protected to CDs.

Yeah but he’s trying to get music for FREE.

Another alternative is the p2p sharing networks (Limewire, WinMX, Bearshare, Kazaa etc). Just download the songs and they are yours (no copy protection)

Hmmm…I think you can with iTunes.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/burn/

Last I heard, iTunes will let you burn or copy your “protected” songs five times, within their allowed methods. That means you can burn it five times, but you only need to do it once. Once you’ve burned it, you can re-rip it to MP3, effectively bypassing the copy protection.

As mentioned above, this takes a lossy file and makes it even more lossy though. For best results, buy CDs rather than lossy copies of the same music for almost the same amount of money (albums at least)…

Wow, that sucks, thats why I keep to winMX, illegally downloading music, so I can burn, transfer it, do anything with that file that I please.

Yep, I do it all the time.

terrybigwheel: Here’s the path- Open itunes, click on “iTunes” in the toolbar, then preferences, then advanced, then burning, and you’ll see a “disk format” selection. Click on “mp3”. Burn your music to cd thataway.
Or, under “advanced” in the toolbar, there is a “convert selection to mp3” option. Simply highlight the items you would like to convert, and proceed. Drag and drop the converted items into whatever other file you would like them in.

I haven’t found the itunes store drm limit yet. And I’m trying. I’ve purchased a song through itunes that I already have on cd; and that copy is currently on our computer, a friend’s computer, four ipods, and three burned cd’s. Nine copies so far, no problem!