After seeing a large selection of John Foss’ “Sea Otter” pictures, and
reading the write up, I felt inspired enough to hop sideways off the 3’9"
stage at my juggling club. No damage to myself or Uni, so I did it again. Has
anyone else had their inhibitions decreased ? If so - have they broken
anything in the process?
Leo White, Cheltenham
P.S. What length cranks did the “Trialists” use on their 20" and 26" unis?
RE: Inspired?
> After seeing a large selection of John Foss’ “Sea Otter” pictures, and reading
> the write up, I felt inspired enough to hop sideways off the 3’9" stage at my
> juggling club. No damage to myself or Uni, so I did it again. Has anyone else
> had their inhibitions decreased ? If so - have they broken anything in the
> process?
The first time I rode off a high stage was in a demonstration at my college in
1982 or so. I managed to stay on the unicycle, but bent a crank in the process.
And as far as having inhibitions decreased, if you get that much from looking at
still pictures, imagine what you get by being there!
Since everyone can’t be there, we will look forward to the video being assembled
by Dan Heaton and Adam Ryznar. May they complete it soon…
> P.S. What length cranks did the “Trialists” use on their 20" and 26" unis?
I think Adam and Dan had 4.5" (102mm) on their 20". This is probably not the
optimum size for them, and I think they are still experimenting. Short cranks
give you less leverage, but long cranks lead to lots of pedals hitting the
ground. It’s a fine line on a 20".
Kris Holm was riding a DM ATU for his trials stuff. These come stock with 150mm
cranks, but I’m not sure if he had added longer ones. I think he would prefer
170 or 180.
Stay on top, John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone http://www.unicycling.com
“Oh dear! I think I broke something.” - Kris Holm, talking not about his body
parts, but about the edge of a bar-b-que grill he had just been riding on
RE: Inspired?
> The 20" “Smontys” had 140s and Kris uses 175s on his 26" (if
I rode Adam’s, and it was definitely not 140s. I think they were shorter than
the cranks on my own 20" (125), but I’m not sure.
Whatever size they were though, I think they wanted longer ones and 140 might be
the right size for Trials. But that would mean a lot of pedals hitting the
ground…
jf
RE: Inspired?
Oops, retract that last one… I should read my inbox before replying!
jf
> > The 20" “Smontys” had 140s and Kris uses 175s on his 26" (if
>
> I rode Adam’s, and it was definitely not 140s. I think they were shorter than
> the cranks on my own 20" (125), but I’m not sure.
>
> Whatever size they were though, I think they wanted longer ones and 140 might
> be the right size for Trials. But that would mean a lot of pedals hitting the
> ground…
>
> jf
RE: Inspired?
— Kris Holm <danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > P.S. What length cranks did the “Trialists” use
> on
> > their 20"
> > > and 26" unis?
> >
> >
> > Kris Holm was riding a DM ATU for his trials
> stuff.
> > These come stock with 150mm cranks, but I’m not sure if he had added longer
> > ones. I think he would prefer 170 or 180.
>
-I’ve been using 175mm cranks. I find that this length gives good control for
steep uphill grinds and hopping on slanted surfaces, as well as drops. I did
find however that 170’s were better for forward riding hops due to increased
speed potential (while still being long enough for good leverage).
-Kris.
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RE: Inspired?
After seeing John Foss’ “things not to do” page, I was inspired to ride being
pulled behind a car.
I get out of the hospital next tuesday…
<g>Hugh in SC
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“Leo White” <Leo.White@tesco.net> writes:
> After seeing a large selection of John Foss’ “Sea Otter” pictures, and reading
> the write up, I felt inspired enough to hop sideways off the 3’9" stage at my
> juggling club.
Maybe it’s a good thing I haven’t seen those pictures yet…
RE: Inspired?
> After seeing John Foss’ “things not to do” page, I was inspired to ride being
> pulled behind a car.
> I get out of the hospital next tuesday…
Knowing the kind of people who imitate such things, you were doing it on a dry
road, weren’t you? 
In any case, I’m glad I put that disclaimer on the page…
John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone http://www.unicycling.com
“Oh dear! I think I broke something.” - Kris Holm, talking not about his body
parts, but about the edge of a bar-b-que grill he had just been riding on
RE: Inspired?
>Knowing the kind of people who imitate such things, you were doing >it on
adry road, weren’t you?
>In any case, I’m glad I put that disclaimer on the page…
>John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
Yes it was a dry road… heck, the whole county is dry! (But, you see, I know
these guys who bootleg…)
<g>Hugh
RE: Inspired?
Almost always, I don’t use the brake for this, partly because I spend so much
time hopping with the seat out in front. With the seat out in front it’s
necessary to hinge the frame back and forth a bit over the axle, which wouldn’t
be possible if the brake was locked.
If I’m forced to hop up a steep ramp while facing directly up hill, that is the
only time I use the brake.
-Kris.
— Chris Reeder <reed8990@uidaho.edu> wrote:
> Kris, When you’re hopping up steep grinds, are you relying totally on the
> torque from your cranks to hold you on the hill, or do you lock up your tire
> with the brake?
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Kris Holm wrote:
>
> > — Kris Holm <danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > P.S. What length cranks did the “Trialists”
> use
> > > on
> > > > their 20"
> > > > > and 26" unis?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kris Holm was riding a DM ATU for his trials
> > > stuff.
> > > > These come stock with 150mm cranks, but I’m not sure if he had added
> > > > longer ones. I think he would prefer 170 or 180.
> > >
> > -I’ve been using 175mm cranks. I find that this length gives good control
> > for steep uphill grinds and hopping on slanted surfaces, as well as drops. I
> > did find however that 170’s were better for forward riding hops due to
> > increased speed potential (while still being long enough for good leverage).
> >
> > -Kris.
> >
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> >
>
>
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Re: Inspired?
Leo White <Leo.White@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:8bobot$qcs$1@barcode.tesco.net…
> After seeing a large selection of John Foss’ “Sea Otter” pictures, and reading
> the write up, I felt inspired enough to hop sideways off the 3’9" stage at my
> juggling club. No damage to myself or Uni, so I did it again. Has anyone else
> had their inhibitions decreased ? If so - have they broken anything in the
> process?
>
> Leo White, Cheltenham
>
> P.S. What length cranks did the “Trialists” use on their 20" and 26" unis?
The 20" “Smontys” had 140s and Kris uses 175s on his 26" (if I remember right).
—Nathan
Re: Inspired?
“Leo White” <Leo.White@tesco.net> writes:
> After seeing a large selection of John Foss’ “Sea Otter” pictures, and reading
> the write up, I felt inspired enough to hop sideways off the 3’9" stage at my
> juggling club.
Maybe it’s a good thing I haven’t seen those pictures yet…
Re: Inspired?
Hugh Allison wrote:
>
> After seeing John Foss’ “things not to do” page, I was inspired to ride being
> pulled behind a car.
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Kris, When you’re hopping up steep grinds, are you relying totally on the
torque from your cranks to hold you on the hill, or do you lock up your tire
with the brake?
Chris
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Kris Holm wrote:
> — Kris Holm <danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > P.S. What length cranks did the “Trialists” use
> > on
> > > their 20"
> > > > and 26" unis?
> > >
> > >
> > > Kris Holm was riding a DM ATU for his trials
> > stuff.
> > > These come stock with 150mm cranks, but I’m not sure if he had added
> > > longer ones. I think he would prefer 170 or 180.
> >
> -I’ve been using 175mm cranks. I find that this length gives good control for
> steep uphill grinds and hopping on slanted surfaces, as well as drops. I did
> find however that 170’s were better for forward riding hops due to increased
> speed potential (while still being long enough for good leverage).
>
> -Kris.
>
> __________________
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> http://im.yahoo.com
Re: Inspired?
In article <20000330161039.24725.qmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com>, Kris Holm
<danger_uni@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Almost always, I don’t use the brake for this, partly because I spend so much
>time hopping with the seat out in front. With the seat out in front it’s
>necessary to hinge the frame back and forth a bit over the axle, which wouldn’t
>be possible if the brake was locked.
>
>If I’m forced to hop up a steep ramp while facing directly up hill, that is the
>only time I use the brake.
>
>-Kris.
>
>— Chris Reeder <reed8990@uidaho.edu> wrote:
>> Kris, When you’re hopping up steep grinds, are you relying totally on the
>> torque from your cranks to hold you on the hill, or do you lock up your tire
>> with the brake?
Brake? On a unicycle? That sounds like something that can only end badly!
–
“We aim to please. So you aim, too, please.”
Re: Inspired?
Gregory L. Hansen <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:8c06dh$uf8$6@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu…
> Brake? On a unicycle? That sounds like something that can only end badly!
Actaully, a brake is useful in many situations:
Long road rides that have significant downhill. Some people have fitted brakes
on their Cokers - I wish I had one. My first long downhill was at NUC’98 - 4400’
down over 9 miles. That was the day before the convention, and I was still sore
at the end! If only I had had a brake.
Ultra-steep Muni: actually a brake here feels almost like cheating. It can
change a long descent from a leg burning challenge into a simple ride. And this
is with one finger on the brake lever! It can also make sections rideable that
weren’t without. This shows that one finger can actually be stronger than both
of your legs - better living through hydraulics.
There are a number of others, such as Kris mentioned, where a brake is
definitely a good thing. You’re usually not locking up the wheel though! That
could be a bad thing.
—Nathan
Re: Inspired?
Some say a brake alows for GREATER speeds downhill then without “Nathan Hoover”
<nathan@paper2net.com> wrote in message news:se7dopnmni734@corp.supernews.com…
> Gregory L. Hansen <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
> news:8c06dh$uf8$6@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu…
>
> > Brake? On a unicycle? That sounds like something that can only end badly!
>
> Actaully, a brake is useful in many situations:
>
> Long road rides that have significant downhill. Some people have fitted brakes
> on their Cokers - I wish I had one. My first long downhill was at NUC’98 -
> 4400’ down over 9 miles. That was the day before the convention, and I was
> still sore at the end! If only I had had a brake.
>
> Ultra-steep Muni: actually a brake here feels almost like cheating. It can
> change a long descent from a leg burning challenge into a simple ride. And
> this is with one finger on the brake lever! It can also make sections rideable
> that weren’t without. This shows that one finger can actually be stronger than
> both of your legs - better living through hydraulics.
>
> There are a number of others, such as Kris mentioned, where a brake is
> definitely a good thing. You’re usually not locking up the wheel though! That
> could be a bad thing.
>
> —Nathan
Re: Inspired?
In article <se7dopnmni734@corp.supernews.com>, Nathan Hoover
<nathan@paper2net.com> wrote:
>Gregory L. Hansen <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
>news:8c06dh$uf8$6@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu…
>
>> Brake? On a unicycle? That sounds like something that can only end badly!
>
>Actaully, a brake is useful in many situations:
>
>Long road rides that have significant downhill. Some people have fitted brakes
>on their Cokers - I wish I had one. My first long downhill was at NUC’98 -
>4400’ down over 9 miles. That was the day before the convention, and I was
>still sore at the end! If only I had had a brake.
>
>Ultra-steep Muni: actually a brake here feels almost like cheating. It can
>change a long descent from a leg burning challenge into a simple ride. And this
>is with one finger on the brake lever! It can also make sections rideable that
>weren’t without. This shows that one finger can actually be stronger than both
>of your legs - better living through hydraulics.
>
>There are a number of others, such as Kris mentioned, where a brake is
>definitely a good thing. You’re usually not locking up the wheel though! That
>could be a bad thing.
It must take a lot of practice to use a brake effectively. And that really
sounds dumb – who would need to practice applying the brakes? But if I used it,
I’m sure I’d wind up face first in the street.
–
“We aim to please. So you aim, too, please.”
Re: Inspired?
Is this how you mean it?
We aim to please. So you aim too. Please?
Re: Inspired?
In article <8pSE4.13744$3g5.1259302@tw11.nn.bcandid.com>, Kip Koski
<ki@sopris.net> wrote:
>Is this how you mean it?
>
>We aim to please. So you aim too. Please?
It’s a request for guys to keep the restroom floor and toilets clean.
–
“We aim to please. So you aim, too, please.”
Re: Inspired?
It could be a good slogan for a gun store. “Gregory L. Hansen”
<glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:8c11ks$2gp$6@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu…
> In article <8pSE4.13744$3g5.1259302@tw11.nn.bcandid.com>, Kip Koski
> <ki@sopris.net> wrote:
> >Is this how you mean it?
> >
> >We aim to please. So you aim too. Please?
>
> It’s a request for guys to keep the restroom floor and toilets clean.
>
> –
> “We aim to please. So you aim, too, please.”