Hey Ken... what's up with the thread breakoffs with rsu??

Hey Ken;

Did you notice that all the replies made from rsu start a new thread,
breaking off from the thread that they were meant to continue?

It’s confusing. :-7

Christopher

“Be Bold and mighty forces will come to your aid.” -Basil King (Anyone who
can give me more info on THIS Basil King please email
me.)

My short story at: http://www.rosedog.com/manuscript.asp?m=9389256&manusc-
ript=6862016&t=The+Determination+of+Jeffery&fn=Christopher&ln=Grove&srdt=-
9%2F27%2F01+5%3A32%3A05+AM&fs=2&ff=Arial%2C+Helvetica%2C+Verdana&ps=4000&-
s=735143750&folder=Search+Results

I agree. I can’t make heads or tails out of some of the conversations. Can
it be fixed?

Bruce

Christopher Grove wrote:
>
> Hey Ken;
>
> Did you notice that all the replies made from rsu start a new thread,
> breaking off from the thread that they were meant to continue?
>
> It’s confusing. :-7
>
> Christopher
> –
> “Be Bold and mighty forces will come to your aid.” -Basil King (Anyone
> who can give me more info on THIS Basil King please email
> me.)
>
> My short story at: http://www.rosedog.com/manuscript.asp?m=9389256&manu-
> script=6862016&t=The+Determination+of+Jeffery&fn=Christopher&ln=Grove&s-
> rdt=9%2F27%2F01+5%3A32%3A05+AM&fs=2&ff=Arial%2C+Helvetica%2C+Verdana&ps-
> =4000&s=735143750&folder=Search+Results

It seems to be because of the automatic addition of to the subject line.

Christopher

Bruce & Mary Edwards wrote:
>
> I agree. I can’t make heads or tails out of some of the conversations.
> Can it be fixed?
>
> Bruce

Try sorting by Subject in your mail reader.

Lowell

> It seems to be because of the automatic addition of to the subject line.
>
> Christopher
>
>
>
>
> Bruce & Mary Edwards wrote:
> >
> > I agree. I can’t make heads or tails out of some of the conversations.
> > Can it be fixed?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> _______________________________________________
> rsu mailing list rsu@unicycling.org
> http://www.unicycling.org/mailman/listinfo/rsu

I’m sorting by thread in Netscape which is the same I suppose as by
subject. I still have extraneous posts appearing out of nowhere.

Lowell Terry wrote:
>
> Try sorting by Subject in your mail reader.
>
> Lowell
>
> > It seems to be because of the automatic addition of to the
> > subject line.
> >
> > Christopher
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruce & Mary Edwards wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree. I can’t make heads or tails out of some of the
> > > conversations. Can it be fixed?
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > rsu mailing list rsu@unicycling.org
> > http://www.unicycling.org/mailman/listinfo/rsu

The problem is that the inconsistent subject headers are breaking the
threads in the news group. The people who read everything on the news
group are going to be hating all of us who post from the mailing list.

I feel a civil war looming. News group posters vs. email posters. :wink:

john_childs

>From: “Lowell Terry” <yoda@socket.net>
>
>
>Try sorting by Subject in your mail reader.
>
>Lowell
>
> > It seems to be because of the automatic addition of to the
> > subject line.
> >
> > Christopher
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruce & Mary Edwards wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree. I can’t make heads or tails out of some of the > >
>conversations.
> > > Can it be fixed?
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >


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John Childs wrote:

> The problem is that the inconsistent subject headers are breaking the
> threads in the news group. The people who read everything on the news
> group are going to be hating all of us who post from the mailing list.

The real problem is that not all email programs use the proper
“references” headers in messages to specify the message id that the
message is a response to. For example, a reply directly to the first
message of this thread should have a line containing “References:
<3BE1E8BC.59453FF9@yahoo.com>” in the email. Newsreaders are better at
this than email clients, and since a lot email clients do this
incorrectly or don’t do it (to name a few: John Foss, John Childs,
Nicholas Price, jeff d tuttle). Email clients and newsreaders use the
subject line as a secondary way of threading, so with the posts coming
from the mailing list having [rsu] put in them, this causes that secondary way
to not work.

The best solution would be to remove the from appearing on the mailing
list messages, AND for those with email clients that don’t use the
“References” to switch to another email client that does.

  • Gilby

Damn Hotmail.

john_childs

>From: Gilby <mail@gilby.com>
>
> The real problem is that not all email programs use the proper
> “references” headers in messages to specify the message id that the
> message is a response to. For example, a reply directly to the first
> message of this thread should have a line containing "References:
> <3BE1E8BC.59453FF9@yahoo.com>" in the email.

[snip]


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I guess I’m used to reading the Email version. I follow the threads in my
mind. A personal thing I suppose.

Lowell

> The problem is that the inconsistent subject headers are breaking the
> threads in the news group. The people who read everything on the news
> group are going to be hating all of us who post from the mailing list.
>
> I feel a civil war looming. News group posters vs. email posters.
>
> john_childs
>
>
> >From: “Lowell Terry” <yoda@socket.net>
> >
> >
> >Try sorting by Subject in your mail reader.
> >
> >Lowell
> >
> > > It seems to be because of the automatic addition of to the subject
> > > line.
> > >
> > > Christopher
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bruce & Mary Edwards wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I agree. I can’t make heads or tails out of some of the > >
> >conversations.
> > > > Can it be fixed?
> > > >
> > > > Bruce
> > > >
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
> http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
>
> _______________________________________________
> rsu mailing list rsu@unicycling.org
> http://www.unicycling.org/mailman/listinfo/rsu

> this than email clients, and since a lot email clients do this
> incorrectly or don’t do it (to name a few: John Foss, John Childs,
> Nicholas Price, jeff d tuttle).

Call me Microsoft. Unfortunately I don’t have a choice about the product
we use at work, Outlook. Outlook is the great testbed for viruses, worms,
trojan horses and most other computer diseases. Sorry about what it does
to the messages.

John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone jfoss@unicycling.com www.unicycling.com

“Freedom is not free”

John Foss wrote:

> Call me Microsoft. Unfortunately I don’t have a choice about the product
> we use at work, Outlook. Outlook is the great testbed for viruses,
> worms, trojan horses and most other computer diseases. Sorry about what
> it does to the messages.

I know Outlook Express does the headers properly, I am not sure about what
you’re using though. According to the email headers, you’re using
“Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)” which might be a special version of
Outlook or maybe it’s the email server which changes all the headers.