enjoyed the track, but there is a larger thread for freerider in JC. Could you post your track over there and let this thread die?
thanks:D
Really nice and really hard too, i cant do it!
how are you supposed to get the last 2 star thingys?
If you want something challenging. Try finishing this with the unicycle. 
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that’s impossible!
bump
I made a fun mountain bike trails-ish track
-18 26 -18 1i,-a 4m k 4m 4m 4m 84 4m b8 4m fk 4m ku 4m ku 5k pa 5k pa 4m 106 4m 12c 4m 12c 2g 130 2g 15g 2g 15g a0,50 u 50 1i 50 26 7g 26,7g u 50 u,26 1i 26 26,-18 26 26 26,26 1i -18 1i,1s 26 1s 4c 5a 4c 5a 26,b8 4c b8 2q au 2q au 1s do 1s do 2q de 2q de 4c fk 4c,b8 2q de 2q,kk 4c ka 4c fk 4c,kk 4c ku 4c,pa 4c 106 4c 106 42 10g 42 10g 3o 10q 3o 10q 3e 114 3e 114 34 11e 34 11e 2q 11o 2q 11o 2g 122 2g 122 26 12c 26 130 26,-u 26 -u 4m -a 4m,7g u 84 u 84 26 7g 26,b8 4c 84 4c 7q 4c 7q 26,pa 4c p0 4c p0 5a l8 5a l8 4c ku 4c,18k 8e 19s a0 1b4 au 1d0 bi 1f6 bs 1ik bs 1l4 bi 1n0 au 1oi a0 1pg 8o 1q4 76 1qe 76 1qe b8 1qe bs 1sa bs,1da c6 1qe c6,1da c6 15g c6 15g a0,1ti -k 1ti -1i 20c -1i 20c 18 1ti 18 20c 42 1ti 42 20c 6i 1ti 6i 20c 92 1ti 92,1ti -1i 20c 18 20c bs 21a bs 2ba bs 2dg bs 2fm 9m 2gu 9m 2k2 84 2lu 7g 2oo 5u 2oo 5k 2rs 3o 2va 3o 30i 3o 358 18 366 18 35s k 35i k 39a -18 3bq -3o 3dc -5u 3dc -5a 3h4 -5a 3ps -5a 3sc -5k 3ui -68 40o -7g 42a -92 438 -au 43i -cg 43i -e2 438 -fa 42k -gi,1ti -k 1ti 26 1ti bs 1sa bs,21a c6 1qe c6,1ti bi 20c bi 1ti 92,21a c6 2ba c6 2dg c6 2va 42 30i 42 358 1i 36g 1i 366 k 39a -u 3bq -3e 3dc -50 3h4 -50 40o -50 454 -au 446 -gs 42k -gi,446 -gs 4ae -g8 4ae -fu 454 -au,4ae -g8 4c0 -fk 4c0 -fa 4ae -fu,4c0 -fk 4h0 -fk 4ii -fu 4ii -fk 4h0 -fa 4h0 -fk,4ii -fk 4j6 -fk 4j6 -k0 4ii -k0 4ii -fu,26a 18 2b0 18,26a 18 2b0 5u 2b0 18,2b0 5u 26a 5u 26a 18,18k 8e 15q 26 130 26,3mo -k0 3ou -gs 3me -k0 3ou -gi 3sc -g8 3us -gs 3sc -fu 3us -gi 3sc -g8,3ou -gs 3sc -g8,3sc -fu 3ou -gs,3ou -gi 3mo -k0 3me -k0,3sc -fu 3sc -g8,3us -gi 3us -gs,3ou -gi 3ou -gs,3ou -gi 3sc -fu,4h0 -fa 4c0 -fa#3sc -fu 3sc -5k,3sc -fa 3ou -fa 3sc -cg 3ou -cg 3sc -a0 3ou -a0 3sc -7g 3ou -7g 3sc -5k,3ou -a0 3me -k0,3ou -gi 3sc -fa,3us -gi 3sc -a0,3ou -gi 3ou -5a#T 4eg -gi
for the mountain bike, also my record is 25 seconds.
wow, great track. I can’t make it past the tower thing though.
[QUOTE=mornish;936010]
hey, does anyone know if there is a downloadable version of this game, or if it is on another site too?
my school blocks onemorelevel.
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Yeah, just go on http://google.com and type in “free rider 2”
You have to hit the brakes and edge over the hill and start going, and lean back going up the jump.
here’s another mountain bike track
-18 1i 18 1i 42 u 6i -u 7g -a bi -6s cg -68 de -68 ec -6s h6 -50 h6 -4m hg -4m hg -4c hq -4c hq -42 hq -3o ie -3o ie -34 j2 -34 j2 -2g jc -k n4 18 se 18 vi 18 10g 18 11e 26,cg -68 cg -7q de -7q de -68,16o c2s 16o c4o,-18 1i -18 26 vi 26 18u 26 1du 26 1es 26 1fg 26,vi 26 v8 26,1fg 5k 1lo 5k 1l4 5a 1ei 5a 1f6 5k 1fg 5k,1lo 5k 1lo 34,10g 18 10g a 14i a 156 a 18k a 19i 18,156 a 156 -k 164 a 164 18 10g 18,156 -k 18k -k 19i a 19i 26,18k -k 18k a 18k 18 164 18 164 26,18k a 164 a,164 18 11e 18 10g a,11e 18 11e 26,164 18 156 a 156 18,11e 18 10g a,19i a 18k a,18k 18 19i 26,1cc 0 1go 0 1go u 1go 18 1cc 18 18k 18,1go 0 1hc k 1hm u 1hm 26 1f6 26,1hm u 1da u 1cc 0 1cc 18 1da 26 1da u,1go 18 1hm 26,1f6 34 1ei 2q 1ei 50 1ei 5a,1l4 2q 1lo 34,1l4 5a 1l4 2q,1f6 34 1f6 5k,1lo 3o 1oi 50 1q4 4m 1ti 76 1sa 7q 1uq ak 228 cg 24o cg 286 cg 27s c6 27s bs 286 bi 29e bi 29o bs 29o c6 29e cg 2bu de 2bk d4 2bk cq 2bu cg 2d6 cg 2cs cq 2cs d4 2d6 de 2e4 de,29e bi 294 bs 294 c6 29e cg 286 cg,2d6 de 2dg d4 2dg cq 2d6 cg,2d6 de 2bu de,2dq de 2dq c6 2eo c6 2eo de 2i6 de 2ig e2 2o4 e2 2oe de 2pm de 2pm ec,2ee de 2e4 de,2eo de 2ee de,2g0 c6 2gu c6 2gu de,2g0 c6 2g0 de,1lo 42 1oi 5a 1sa 84 1uq au 228 cq 29e cq 2ci ec 2i6 ec 2pm ec#cg -7q c6 -8e cg -84 cg -8o cq -84 cq -9c d4 -84 de -8o de -84 do -8e de -7q,cg -7g de -7g,cg -6i de -6i,cg -76 de -76,cg -6s de -6s,1ei 2q 1l4 2q,1lo 34 1f6 34,28g cg 286 c6 286 bs 28g bi,28q cg 28g c6 28g bs 28q bi,294 cg 28q c6 28q bs 294 bi,29e c6 29e bs,2c8 cg 2bu cq 2bu d4 2c8 de,2ci de 2c8 d4 2c8 cq 2ci cg,2cs cg 2ci cq 2ci d4 2cs de,2dq d4 2ee d4 2eo d4,2eo cq 2dq cq,2dq cg 2eo cg,2g0 cg 2gu cg,2gu cq 2g0 cq,2g0 d4 2gu d4#T 2la de
at the beginning you can just go forward with out leaning and make it to the top.
I’m stuck on the third. Great job Danni.
Haha 16 set on unicycle:D
Private.
What about this tack for a mountain bike.
-18 1i 18 1i 42 1i 6i 1i 6i 18 6s 18 6s u 76 u 76 k 7g k 7g a 7q a 7q 0 84 0 84 -a 8e -a 8e -k 8o -k 8o -u 92 -u 92 -18 9c -18 9c -1i 9m -1i 9m -1s a0 -1s a0 -26 aa -26 aa -2g ak -2g ak -2q hg -2q hg -2g hq -2g hq -26 i4 -26 i4 -1s ie -1s ie -1i io -1i io -18 j2 -18 j2 -u jc -u jc -k jm -k jm -a k0 -a k0 0 ka 0 ka a kk a kk k mq k mq -k se 50,gi -2q gi -3e fk -34 e2 -2q,mq k mq u n4 u n4 18 ne 18 ne 1i no 1i no 1s o2 1s o2 26 oc 26 oc 2g om 2g om 18,om 2g om 2q p0 2q p0 34 pa 34 pa 3e pk 3e pk 3o pu 3o pu 42 q8 42 q8 4c qi 4c qi 34,qi 4c qi 4m qs 4m qs 50 r6 50 r6 5a rg 5a rg 5k rq 5k rq 5u s4 5u s4 68 se 68 se 6i so 6i so 6s t2 6s t2 5k,t2 6s t2 76 tc 76 tc 7g tm 7g tm 7q u0 7q u0 84 ua 84 ua 8e uk 8e uk 8o uu 8o uu 92 v8 92 v8 9c vi 9c 122 9c 12c 9c 12c 9m 12m 9m 12m a0 130 a0 130 aa 13a aa 13a ak 13k ak 13k au 13u au 13u b8 148 b8 148 bi 14i bi 14i bs 1ag bs 1ag c6 1aq c6 1aq cg 1b4 cg 1b4 cq 1be cq 1be d4 1bo d4 1bo de 1c2 de 1c2 do 1cc do 1cc e2 1cm e2 1cm ec 1d0 ec 1d0 em 1da em 1da f0 1dk f0 1dk fa 1du fa 1du fk 1e8 fk 1e8 fu 1ei fu 1ei g8 1es g8 1es gi 1f6 gi 1f6 gs 1fg gs 1fg h6 1fq h6 1fq hg 1g4 hg 1g4 hq 1ik hq 1ik i4 1iu i4 1iu ie 1j8 ie 1j8 io 1ji io 1ji j2 1js j2 1js jc 1k6 jc 1k6 jm 1kg jm 1kg k0 1kq k0 1kq ka 1l4 ka 1l4 kk 1le kk 1le ku 1lo ku 1lo l8 1m2 l8 1m2 li 1mc li 1mc ls 1mm ls 1mm m6 1n0 m6 1n0 mg 1ti mg 29o mg,vi 9c vi 84 122 84 14s ak 156 ak 15q ak 15q bs,vi 84 se 50,122 84 122 9c,14s ak 14s bs,1u6 mg 20c m6 21u li 236 kk 23q jm 23q mg,2c8 mg 29o mg,2c8 mg 2k2 mg 2to mg 2to jm,2ba hg 2bk hg 2bk hq 2bu hq 2bu i4 2c8 i4 2c8 ie 2ci ie 2ci io 2cs io 2cs j2 2d6 j2 2d6 jc 2dg jc 2dg jm 2dq jm 2dq k0 2e4 k0 2e4 ka 2ee ka 2ee kk 2eo kk 2eo ku 2f2 ku 2f2 l8 2fc l8 2fc li 2fm li 2fm ls 2g0 ls 2g0 m6 2ga m6 2ga mg,2ba hg 2ba mg,-18 1i -3e 1i -3e -1i#1ik hq 1ik gs,1n0 m6 1n0 l8 1ik gs,1l4 jc 1l4 ka,1g4 gi 1ag au 19i au 19i bs,1ag au 1ag bs,1cm d4 1cm e2,1ei f0 1ei fu,1ge gs 1ik gs,1ge gs 1g4 gi,1ge gs 1ge hq,6i 18 6i a,ak -2q ak -3o 6i a,9c -2g 9c -1i,84 -18 84 -a,2ba hg 28q hg 28q hq 2ba hq,294 hg 294 76,2ac hg 2ac 76,2ac gs 294 gs,294 g8 2ac g8,2ac fk 294 fk,294 f0 2ac f0,2ac ec 294 ec,294 do 2ac do,294 hq 294 mg,294 d4 2ac d4,2ac cg 294 cg,294 bs 2ac bs,2ac b8 294 b8,294 ak 2ac ak,2ac a0 294 a0,294 9c 2ac 9c,2ac 8o 294 8o,294 84 2ac 84,2ac 7g 294 7g#T 2m8 li
What about this tack for a mountain bike.
-18 1i 18 1i 42 1i 6i 1i 6i 18 6s 18 6s u 76 u 76 k 7g k 7g a 7q a 7q 0 84 0 84 -a 8e -a 8e -k 8o -k 8o -u 92 -u 92 -18 9c -18 9c -1i 9m -1i 9m -1s a0 -1s a0 -26 aa -26 aa -2g ak -2g ak -2q hg -2q hg -2g hq -2g hq -26 i4 -26 i4 -1s ie -1s ie -1i io -1i io -18 j2 -18 j2 -u jc -u jc -k jm -k jm -a k0 -a k0 0 ka 0 ka a kk a kk k mq k mq -k se 50,gi -2q gi -3e fk -34 e2 -2q,mq k mq u n4 u n4 18 ne 18 ne 1i no 1i no 1s o2 1s o2 26 oc 26 oc 2g om 2g om 18,om 2g om 2q p0 2q p0 34 pa 34 pa 3e pk 3e pk 3o pu 3o pu 42 q8 42 q8 4c qi 4c qi 34,qi 4c qi 4m qs 4m qs 50 r6 50 r6 5a rg 5a rg 5k rq 5k rq 5u s4 5u s4 68 se 68 se 6i so 6i so 6s t2 6s t2 5k,t2 6s t2 76 tc 76 tc 7g tm 7g tm 7q u0 7q u0 84 ua 84 ua 8e uk 8e uk 8o uu 8o uu 92 v8 92 v8 9c vi 9c 122 9c 12c 9c 12c 9m 12m 9m 12m a0 130 a0 130 aa 13a aa 13a ak 13k ak 13k au 13u au 13u b8 148 b8 148 bi 14i bi 14i bs 1ag bs 1ag c6 1aq c6 1aq cg 1b4 cg 1b4 cq 1be cq 1be d4 1bo d4 1bo de 1c2 de 1c2 do 1cc do 1cc e2 1cm e2 1cm ec 1d0 ec 1d0 em 1da em 1da f0 1dk f0 1dk fa 1du fa 1du fk 1e8 fk 1e8 fu 1ei fu 1ei g8 1es g8 1es gi 1f6 gi 1f6 gs 1fg gs 1fg h6 1fq h6 1fq hg 1g4 hg 1g4 hq 1ik hq 1ik i4 1iu i4 1iu ie 1j8 ie 1j8 io 1ji io 1ji j2 1js j2 1js jc 1k6 jc 1k6 jm 1kg jm 1kg k0 1kq k0 1kq ka 1l4 ka 1l4 kk 1le kk 1le ku 1lo ku 1lo l8 1m2 l8 1m2 li 1mc li 1mc ls 1mm ls 1mm m6 1n0 m6 1n0 mg 1ti mg 29o mg,vi 9c vi 84 122 84 14s ak 156 ak 15q ak 15q bs,vi 84 se 50,122 84 122 9c,14s ak 14s bs,1u6 mg 20c m6 21u li 236 kk 23q jm 23q mg,2c8 mg 29o mg,2c8 mg 2k2 mg 2to mg 2to jm,2ba hg 2bk hg 2bk hq 2bu hq 2bu i4 2c8 i4 2c8 ie 2ci ie 2ci io 2cs io 2cs j2 2d6 j2 2d6 jc 2dg jc 2dg jm 2dq jm 2dq k0 2e4 k0 2e4 ka 2ee ka 2ee kk 2eo kk 2eo ku 2f2 ku 2f2 l8 2fc l8 2fc li 2fm li 2fm ls 2g0 ls 2g0 m6 2ga m6 2ga mg,2ba hg 2ba mg,-18 1i -3e 1i -3e -1i#1ik hq 1ik gs,1n0 m6 1n0 l8 1ik gs,1l4 jc 1l4 ka,1g4 gi 1ag au 19i au 19i bs,1ag au 1ag bs,1cm d4 1cm e2,1ei f0 1ei fu,1ge gs 1ik gs,1ge gs 1g4 gi,1ge gs 1ge hq,6i 18 6i a,ak -2q ak -3o 6i a,9c -2g 9c -1i,84 -18 84 -a,2ba hg 28q hg 28q hq 2ba hq,294 hg 294 76,2ac hg 2ac 76,2ac gs 294 gs,294 g8 2ac g8,2ac fk 294 fk,294 f0 2ac f0,2ac ec 294 ec,294 do 2ac do,294 hq 294 mg,294 d4 2ac d4,2ac cg 294 cg,294 bs 2ac bs,2ac b8 294 b8,294 ak 2ac ak,2ac a0 294 a0,294 9c 2ac 9c,2ac 8o 294 8o,294 84 2ac 84,2ac 7g 294 7g#T 2m8 li
It’s possible on a mountain bike in about 8 seconds if you land into the second set of steps when jumping off the handrail.
It’s also possible on a bmx but difficult because it doesn’t like steps.
9.31 seconds
Sorry, I forgot:o
Fixed now
pretty good.
Ha! nice. You should use the grid tool thing to get the steps all even looking.
I’ve managed flips before off ledges with the free rider unicycle.
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I’ve just made this one for the ??? blob thing.