FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

Which would make a better server os?


Rodney Blackwell - http://www.5r5.net

“I’m the latest craze” - Macy Gray

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

On Tuesday 19 August 2003 08:47 pm, Rodney Blackwell wrote:

> Which would make a better server os?
>

For security, Id choose OpenBSD (Only one remote hole in the default
install, in more than 7 years).

For Webserving I’d choose Mandrake. Mandrake has pre-optimized apache, and a
better RPM setup (urpmi).

But that’s not what you asked :wink:

Both FreeBSD and Redhat are good choices. Id lean to redhat easy to find
support, prepackaged rpms for easier updating, option for commercial
support.


John R. Marshall

The Hotrodding Network is Back!

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

Thanks John…

related question:

How many times better is this server spec performance-wise over a raq4?

“Pentium 4 2.4GHz processor, 512 megabytes of DDR RAM, 60 gigabyte hard
drive, Intel Pro 100 Plus network card, and your choice of FreeBSD or RedHat
Linux operating systems”


Rodney Blackwell - http://www.5r5.net

“I’m the latest craze” - Macy Gray

“John R. Marshall” <hotrodder@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:bhun1p$4rm$1@www.darklock.com
> On Tuesday 19 August 2003 08:47 pm, Rodney Blackwell wrote:
>
> > Which would make a better server os?
> >
>
> For security, Id choose OpenBSD (Only one remote hole in the default
> install, in more than 7 years).
>
> For Webserving I’d choose Mandrake. Mandrake has pre-optimized apache, and
a
> better RPM setup (urpmi).
>
> But that’s not what you asked :wink:
>
> Both FreeBSD and Redhat are good choices. Id lean to redhat easy to find
> support, prepackaged rpms for easier updating, option for commercial
> support.
>
>
>
> –
> John R. Marshall
>
> The Hotrodding Network is Back!
> http://www.hotrodding.net

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

On Wednesday 20 August 2003 12:30 am, Rodney Blackwell wrote:

> How many times better is this server spec performance-wise over a raq4?
>
> “Pentium 4 2.4GHz processor, 512 megabytes of DDR RAM, 60 gigabyte hard
> drive, Intel Pro 100 Plus network card, and your choice of FreeBSD or
> RedHat Linux operating systems”

Umpteen times better :slight_smile:

But really it all depends on the server, the raq was built to on 24/7. and
if your looking at a white box server it might not be as reliable. But the
extra horsepower on that server will be nice if your running alot of
perl/php/mysql processes. (I have see a popular forum bring a dedicated
server to it’s knees.)

I’m REALY tempted to get a server and start hosting… right now
http://www.serverbeach.com is offering a debian server… I really like
that idea.

AMD 2100 XP Athlon
1GB ram
900 GB Bandwidth
Free setup $119.00 month


John R. Marshall

The Hotrodding Network is Back!

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

“John R. Marshall” <hotrodder@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:bhv866$nlb$1@www.darklock.com

> Umpteen times better :slight_smile:
>
> But really it all depends on the server, the raq was built to on 24/7. and
> if your looking at a white box server it might not be as reliable. But the
> extra horsepower on that server will be nice if your running alot of
> perl/php/mysql processes. (I have see a popular forum bring a dedicated
> server to it’s knees.)

That seems to be my problem, since one of my sites uses a lot of php/mysql
processes.

What do you mean by a white box server?

I think it may be time for me to leave the raq race.


Rodney

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

Where’s a good place to buy a server?

For the bandwidth I need, it looks like colocation might be cheaper.


Rodney

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

On Wednesday 20 August 2003 02:24 am, Rodney Blackwell wrote:

> What do you mean by a white box server?

a white box is a server in a normal tower case.


John R. Marshall

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Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

On Wednesday 20 August 2003 02:27 am, Rodney Blackwell wrote:

> Where’s a good place to buy a server?
>
> For the bandwidth I need, it looks like colocation might be cheaper.

Yikes! how much bandwidth do you use a month??


John R. Marshall

The Hotrodding Network is Back!

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

> Where’s a good place to buy a server?
>
> For the bandwidth I need, it looks like colocation might be cheaper.

How much do You need?

I need about 40 GB per month


Roland Mösl
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Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

Rodney Blackwell wrote:
> Which would make a better server os?
>

For you, or for an experienced server admin? I think Redhat makes a
great server OS, and is much more useable. Some (like JRM) might argue
that FreeBSD is more secure/whatever (and they may have valid points),
but I don’t think those points make much of a difference.

With a little bit of reading, you will be able to run a secure, stable
Redhat installation. I’d recommend looking into Redhat Linux Enterprise
(not free, but built for servers, not desktop use). It’s not necessary
for what you’re looking into, but you’ll get a little bit better
support, etc.

Either way, they are both worlds ahead of Cobalt.

-Mike K.

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

Rodney Blackwell wrote:
> Thanks John…
>
> related question:
>
> How many times better is this server spec performance-wise over a raq4?
>
> “Pentium 4 2.4GHz processor, 512 megabytes of DDR RAM, 60 gigabyte hard
> drive, Intel Pro 100 Plus network card, and your choice of FreeBSD or RedHat
> Linux operating systems”

A Raq doesn’t even compare to that :slight_smile:

-Mike K.

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

> > “Pentium 4 2.4GHz processor, 512 megabytes of DDR RAM, 60 gigabyte hard
> > drive, Intel Pro 100 Plus network card, and your choice of FreeBSD or
RedHat
> > Linux operating systems”
>
> A Raq doesn’t even compare to that :slight_smile:

But the CPU

I would more like a system with a Centrino 1.4 GHz


Roland Mösl
http://www.pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
http://web-design-sutie.com Web Design starts at the search engine

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

“Mike King” <webdiscuss@webcodefocus.com> wrote in message
news:bi00q4$hue$1@www.darklock.com
>
>
> Rodney Blackwell wrote:
> > Which would make a better server os?
> >
>
> For you, or for an experienced server admin?

hehe…good follow up question :slight_smile:

Yep, for me. I don’t want anything that’s going to require a rocket science
degree to administer sites.


Rodney

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

“John R. Marshall” <hotrodder@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:bhvcg7$rt6$2@www.darklock.com
> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 02:27 am, Rodney Blackwell wrote:
>
> > Where’s a good place to buy a server?
> >
> > For the bandwidth I need, it looks like colocation might be cheaper.
>
> Yikes! how much bandwidth do you use a month??

Actually more than I thought. Colocation is going to be more expensive than
I thought.

I thought I was around 10-15 GB a month, but it’s more like 45-60 GB a
month.


Rodney

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:47:53 -0700, Rodney Blackwell wrote:

> Which would make a better server os?

I would stay the HELL away from Red Hat (and I do!). RPMs need an
overhaul to intelligently fetch dependencies and install them.

But you’re in luck. You can install Gentoo over-top of Red Hat
(http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=28559 or
http://tinyurl.com/kneo).

-Lisa

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

“Lisa” <lisa@thedoh.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.08.20.20.48.00.751575@thedoh.com
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:47:53 -0700, Rodney Blackwell wrote:
>
> > Which would make a better server os?
>
> I would stay the HELL away from Red Hat (and I do!). RPMs need an
> overhaul to intelligently fetch dependencies and install them.
>
> But you’re in luck. You can install Gentoo over-top of Red Hat
> (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=28559 or
> http://tinyurl.com/kneo).

you’re somewhat of a gentoo zealot aren’t you :slight_smile:

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

Lisa wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:47:53 -0700, Rodney Blackwell wrote:
>
>
>>Which would make a better server os?
>
>
> I would stay the HELL away from Red Hat (and I do!). RPMs need an
> overhaul to intelligently fetch dependencies and install them.

It’s all about APT, man :slight_smile:

-Mike K.

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

Mike King wrote:

>
>
> Lisa wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:47:53 -0700, Rodney Blackwell wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Which would make a better server os?
>>
>>
>>
>> I would stay the HELL away from Red Hat (and I do!). RPMs need an
>> overhaul to intelligently fetch dependencies and install them.
>
>
>
> It’s all about APT, man :slight_smile:
>
> -Mike K.
>[/color]
Well if you cannot install APT, what can you do? :wink:

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

Shena Delian O’Brien wrote:
>
> Well if you cannot install APT, what can you do? :wink:

There is absolutely no problem installing APT on a modern Redhat
installation. (which Rodney should have when he gets a new server).

Cobalts, on the other hand… :-p

-Mike K.

Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat Linux

On Wednesday 20 August 2003 12:10 pm, Rodney Blackwell wrote:

> “John R. Marshall” <hotrodder@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:bhvcg7$rt6$2@www.darklock.com
>> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 02:27 am, Rodney Blackwell wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Where’s a good place to buy a server?
>> >
>> > For the bandwidth I need, it looks like colocation might be cheaper.
>>
>> Yikes! how much bandwidth do you use a month??
>
>
> Actually more than I thought. Colocation is going to be more expensive
> than I thought.
>
> I thought I was around 10-15 GB a month, but it’s more like 45-60 GB a
> month.[/color]

You dont need colocation. you can rent a servre at serverbeach.com that will
give yuo 900 GB a month. far more than you need :wink:

Oh can you tell I like serverbeach? :wink:


John R. Marshall

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