Footgear...

It’s a beginning. But (i) how comfortable would it be on the feet to have
a partial clip like that when pulling up? (ii) how safe would it be in an
emergemcy? As to (ii): your natural tendency is normally to move the foot
outward on the side where you fall, so that would help.

My idea (which is less feasible than Doug’s but maybe someone can build on
it) is to have the equivalent of a “dead man’s knob” (on a train),
something you have to press constantly e.g. a rubber ball in your hand. If
you let go when you bail out, the clip releases.

Keep on brainstorming, Klaas Bil

On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 03:09:03 GMT, “Doug Massey” <dvm@mmcable.com> wrote:

>
>“Klaas Bil” <klaasbil_remove_the_spamkiller_@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
>news:3bd4a1a2.6655219@newszilla.xs4all.nl
>> There’s an engineering challenge here coz being clipped on apparently
>> has significant pros and cons. Maybe some special type of quick
>> release? A clip-on device that somehow detects that things are going
>> wrong and then lets go automatically (and reliably!)?
>>
>> Who has an idea?
>>
>> Klaas Bil
>
>I’ll bite…
>
>How about having a partial clip on the interior side of the pedal? It
>would look like only one third of the clip was left. It would have to be
>much stiffer than a regular clip since it can’t ‘strap’ across.
>
>It seems like I saw something like this years ago with the exception that
>it was on the outer edge of the pedal (of a bicycle). Being on the
>interior of the pedal would allow quick escape. If you want to pull up on
>the pedal, just squeeze in to grip the clip.
>
>If it’s not going to be used, just flip the pedal over. Since its on the
>interior, it shouldn’t scrape when cornering.
>
>Doug
>
>
>


“To trigger/fool/saturate/overload Echelon, the following has been picked
automagically from a database:” “Ebola, Omar Abdel Rahman, Pentagon”

It’s a beginning. But (i) how comfortable would it be on the feet to have
a partial clip like that when pulling up? (ii) how safe would it be in an
emergemcy? As to (ii): your natural tendency is normally to move the foot
outward on the side where you fall, so that would help.

My idea (which is less feasible than Doug’s but maybe someone can build on
it) is to have the equivalent of a “dead man’s knob” (on a train),
something you have to press constantly e.g. a rubber ball in your hand. If
you let go when you bail out, the clip releases.

Keep on brainstorming, Klaas Bil

On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 03:09:03 GMT, “Doug Massey” <dvm@mmcable.com> wrote:

>
>“Klaas Bil” <klaasbil_remove_the_spamkiller_@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
>news:3bd4a1a2.6655219@newszilla.xs4all.nl
>> There’s an engineering challenge here coz being clipped on apparently
>> has significant pros and cons. Maybe some special type of quick
>> release? A clip-on device that somehow detects that things are going
>> wrong and then lets go automatically (and reliably!)?
>>
>> Who has an idea?
>>
>> Klaas Bil
>
>I’ll bite…
>
>How about having a partial clip on the interior side of the pedal? It
>would look like only one third of the clip was left. It would have to be
>much stiffer than a regular clip since it can’t ‘strap’ across.
>
>It seems like I saw something like this years ago with the exception that
>it was on the outer edge of the pedal (of a bicycle). Being on the
>interior of the pedal would allow quick escape. If you want to pull up on
>the pedal, just squeeze in to grip the clip.
>
>If it’s not going to be used, just flip the pedal over. Since its on the
>interior, it shouldn’t scrape when cornering.
>
>Doug
>
>
>


“To trigger/fool/saturate/overload Echelon, the following has been picked
automagically from a database:” “Ebola, Omar Abdel Rahman, Pentagon”

It’s a beginning. But (i) how comfortable would it be on the feet to have
a partial clip like that when pulling up? (ii) how safe would it be in an
emergemcy? As to (ii): your natural tendency is normally to move the foot
outward on the side where you fall, so that would help.

My idea (which is less feasible than Doug’s but maybe someone can build on
it) is to have the equivalent of a “dead man’s knob” (on a train),
something you have to press constantly e.g. a rubber ball in your hand. If
you let go when you bail out, the clip releases.

Keep on brainstorming, Klaas Bil

On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 03:09:03 GMT, “Doug Massey” <dvm@mmcable.com> wrote:

>
>“Klaas Bil” <klaasbil_remove_the_spamkiller_@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
>news:3bd4a1a2.6655219@newszilla.xs4all.nl
>> There’s an engineering challenge here coz being clipped on apparently
>> has significant pros and cons. Maybe some special type of quick
>> release? A clip-on device that somehow detects that things are going
>> wrong and then lets go automatically (and reliably!)?
>>
>> Who has an idea?
>>
>> Klaas Bil
>
>I’ll bite…
>
>How about having a partial clip on the interior side of the pedal? It
>would look like only one third of the clip was left. It would have to be
>much stiffer than a regular clip since it can’t ‘strap’ across.
>
>It seems like I saw something like this years ago with the exception that
>it was on the outer edge of the pedal (of a bicycle). Being on the
>interior of the pedal would allow quick escape. If you want to pull up on
>the pedal, just squeeze in to grip the clip.
>
>If it’s not going to be used, just flip the pedal over. Since its on the
>interior, it shouldn’t scrape when cornering.
>
>Doug
>
>
>


“To trigger/fool/saturate/overload Echelon, the following has been picked
automagically from a database:” “Ebola, Omar Abdel Rahman, Pentagon”

skunker wrote:

<snip>

Has
> anyone every tired to use a clip-on on a unicycle? I was thinking about
> it and figure they’d be good for jmping and hopping as the unicycle is
> attacked, but not so good when you crash or fall off, i spose you’d just
> have to not fall off.

There’s been a lot of off and on discussion about clipless and such.

I wonder if there are any unicycling electronic geniuses out there who
could incorporate ‘smart’ technology into some kind of
clip/clipless grip?

You’d have to define under what circumstances that you need to release and
then some kind of sensing device incorporating logic circuits that sense
THAT particular circumstance that can then trigger a release. Probably
with regular mechanical release for backup.

One more use for batteries. Quick buy some more Duracell and
Energizer stock! :wink:

Christopher Grove


“I never MET a man I didn’t like.” -Will Rogers

Read my short story at: http://www.rosedog.com/manuscript.asp?m=9389256&m-
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Hey guys,

You were talking about the deadmans switch. On the old trains the dead man’s switch was on a lever. So, what about attaching a dead man’s switch to a handle attached to the seat stem or the seat. I remember reading there was someone out there that made those handles.

But then we get the problem of how to connect to the pedal itself.

Hmmm

teachndad wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> You were talking about the deadmans switch. On the old trains the dead
> man’s switch was on a lever. So, what about attaching a dead man’s
> switch to a handle attached to the seat stem or the seat. I remember
> reading there was someone out there that made those handles.
>
> But then we get the problem of how to connect to the pedal itself.
>
> Hmmm
>
> –
> teachndad Posted via the Unicyclist Community -
> http://unicyclist.com/forums

As in my other post (a couple up) Radio man! Radio! :slight_smile: In particular
something like the new ‘Bluetooth’ convention. This could send a signal to
the clip release.

Christopher Grove


“I never MET a man I didn’t like.” -Will Rogers

Read my short story at: http://www.rosedog.com/manuscript.asp?m=9389256&m-
anuscript=6862016&t=The+Determination+of+Jeffery&fn=Christopher&ln=Grove&-
srdt=9%2F27%2F01+5%3A32%3A05+AM&fs=2&ff=Arial%2C+Helvetica%2C+Verdana&ps=-
4000&s=735143750&folder=Search+Results

A microphone could be incorporated into the pedal. The release of the clip
would be the blood curdling scream of the rider. :wink:

DesignNews had an interesting article about putting switch operated motors
in a bicycle shock to lock/unlock it. Cannondale is developing it. It was
the Feb. 5th, 2001 issue.

http://www.manufacturing.net/dn/index.asp?layout=articleWebzine&articleid-
=CA 108409

Doug

“Christopher Grove” <c_r_grove@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3BD5EAD6.587A2886@yahoo.com
> skunker wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Has
> > anyone every tired to use a clip-on on a unicycle? I was thinking
> > about it and figure they’d be good for jmping and hopping as the
> > unicycle is attacked, but not so good when you crash or fall off, i
> > spose you’d just have to not fall off.
>
>
> There’s been a lot of off and on discussion about clipless and such.
>
> I wonder if there are any unicycling electronic geniuses out there who
> could incorporate ‘smart’ technology into some kind of
> clip/clipless grip?
>
> You’d have to define under what circumstances that you need to release
> and then some kind of sensing device incorporating logic circuits that
> sense THAT particular circumstance that can then trigger a release.
> Probably with regular mechanical release for backup.
>
> One more use for batteries. Quick buy some more Duracell and Energizer
> stock!
>
>
> Christopher Grove
>
>
> –
> “I never MET a man I didn’t like.” -Will Rogers
>
> Read my short story at:
>
http://www.rosedog.com/manuscript.asp?m=9389256&manuscript=6862016&t=The±
Det ermination+of+Jeffery&fn=Christopher&ln=Grove&srdt=9%2F27%2F01+5%3A32-
%3A05+A M&fs=2&ff=Arial%2C+Helvetica%2C+Verdana&ps=4000&s=735143750&folde-
r=Search+Re sults

A microphone could be incorporated into the pedal. The release of the clip
would be the blood curdling scream of the rider. :wink:

DesignNews had an interesting article about putting switch operated motors
in a bicycle shock to lock/unlock it. Cannondale is developing it. It was
the Feb. 5th, 2001 issue.

http://www.manufacturing.net/dn/index.asp?layout=articleWebzine&articleid-
=CA 108409

Doug

“Christopher Grove” <c_r_grove@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3BD5EAD6.587A2886@yahoo.com
> skunker wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Has
> > anyone every tired to use a clip-on on a unicycle? I was thinking
> > about it and figure they’d be good for jmping and hopping as the
> > unicycle is attacked, but not so good when you crash or fall off, i
> > spose you’d just have to not fall off.
>
>
> There’s been a lot of off and on discussion about clipless and such.
>
> I wonder if there are any unicycling electronic geniuses out there who
> could incorporate ‘smart’ technology into some kind of
> clip/clipless grip?
>
> You’d have to define under what circumstances that you need to release
> and then some kind of sensing device incorporating logic circuits that
> sense THAT particular circumstance that can then trigger a release.
> Probably with regular mechanical release for backup.
>
> One more use for batteries. Quick buy some more Duracell and Energizer
> stock!
>
>
> Christopher Grove
>
>
> –
> “I never MET a man I didn’t like.” -Will Rogers
>
> Read my short story at:
>
http://www.rosedog.com/manuscript.asp?m=9389256&manuscript=6862016&t=The±
Det ermination+of+Jeffery&fn=Christopher&ln=Grove&srdt=9%2F27%2F01+5%3A32-
%3A05+A M&fs=2&ff=Arial%2C+Helvetica%2C+Verdana&ps=4000&s=735143750&folde-
r=Search+Re sults

Doug Massey wrote:
>
> A microphone could be incorporated into the pedal. The release of the
> clip would be the blood curdling scream of the rider.

SEE!!! As per the thread “Intelligent Unicyclists” it is obvious that
unicyclists represent the cream of the intellectual crop!!!

There is no problem too… problematic?.. that can’t be
solved by this massive concentration of grey cells!!!

You got a problem!? BRING IT ON!!!

Christopher

Doug Massey wrote:
>
> A microphone could be incorporated into the pedal. The release of the
> clip would be the blood curdling scream of the rider.

SEE!!! As per the thread “Intelligent Unicyclists” it is obvious that
unicyclists represent the cream of the intellectual crop!!!

There is no problem too… problematic?.. that can’t be
solved by this massive concentration of grey cells!!!

You got a problem!? BRING IT ON!!!

Christopher

the only prob. i see with a deadman’s switch is that you’d have to have your hand perm. on it. unless u want to clip in and out of the pedals all the time, which could prove just to be really annoying, although, if the switch was reversed and you only had to hit it to release the clips that might work better? something like a rip cord in skydiving, but more technologically advanced. the lever i don’t think would be a prob. just use the wilder bracket and a normal brake handle but with a dif. cord. but then there’s the prob. of a slack cord so the pedal could still turn, unless you could somehow run it down the fork tubing? any thoughts? p.s. i hate gramma and punctuation and can’t spell.

tim

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