Emotional Quotient (EQ) vs IQ [the rational mind is GOD]

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Maestro, Dave (Gild), Nao, and others worship the rational mind and IQ, like Mr. Spock. [And imagine Mr. Spock’s siblings, the ones who are logical but aren’t so bright]

Call it sour grapes because I keep failing the Mensa exam, but I value EQ (Emotional Quotient) more, and imagination.

Mr. Spock had a very high IQ and was only capable of logic, not emotion. As a consequence, he missed out on experiencing the wonderful world of imagination, attachment, love, etc. We loved him, but he didn’t love us. My neighbor loves her iguana, but her calculating iguana does not love her.

I, on the other hand, have a pretty high EQ but I am not capable of logic. I’m more like a friendly dog. As a consequence, I miss out on experiencing the wonderful world of logic, of relationships with people who insist I should make sense, and esteem.

I’m not seeking your pity. Just wondering where you stand on all this.

Consider the ‘x axis’ being Emotion and the ‘y axis’ being logic, with the upper right quadrant representing valuing BOTH most, the lower left quadrant representing valuing BOTH least, and the other quadrants representing either valuing Logic over Emotion (mr. spock) OR emotion over logic (friendly dog). [I confused myself there]

Careful, if maestro and Dave are correct,

–from the Jesus thread.

Billy

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Spock is a fictional character in several stories…and so is God.

Don’t worry about it. Also, don’t spend so much effort trying to spread the “good news”, because there are a lot of logical people who can see right through it. Being friendly and helpful is great, no matter what your beliefs. Being overtly religious or anti-religious is annoying to just about everyone.

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Which One? =p

Anyways, I think I am about equal when it comes down to it, but at sometimes, my EQ will out weigh my IQ when other times, my IQ easily out weighs my EQ. Well, actually, I am a tid bit more EQ.

Thats it, I am more EQ than I am IQ, but I give both sides a good workout.

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Billy I had several reactions to this.

  1. What are you a chick?
  2. Explains your political choices.
  3. I’m not going to play in your physcological sandbox. Or am I already?:smiley:
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He got us before we even knew… :astonished:

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I am definitely very IQ…if something is pretty personal, I’ll obviously be more likely to be emotional, but just looking at general situations, I always do so from an IQ perspective.

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I tend to show my cold calculating side more, but I believe emotional intelligence is just as important. Who wants to be a computer? :thinking:

Humans invent computers. Now, humans aspire to be like computers? Are computers the new god?

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Cs > L * IQ

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Why quantify emotions with a term like EQ?
That seems like something a mathematically/logically inclined mind would do.
Spock is confused and demands that Billy starts making sense.
:wink:

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You got me, Bugman!!! :smiley: :smiley:

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I’m just here to stand up for Mr. Spock, who has been somewhat misrepresented:

Is that a fair word to use for Spock? He doesn’t worship.

Spock was fully capable of emotion, as is any full-blooded Vulcan. They only choose to repress it as a deep-seated cultural thing. Spock is half human, which means he has a lot more to repress, and who knows what really goes on in his head aside from tons of conflict? That’s what makes him interesting.

But as has already been mentioned, he is a fictional character. With fiction, it’s possible to change the definition, or aspects of something, by writing more material. In this case, the fifth Star Trek movie (the “I saw God and pissed him off” one) reveals that Vulcans were not always the boring, nerdy logical beings they became later. So as an “editable” being, Spock can change. But everything I said about him holds true to the original TV series.

Ever notice how none of the other Vulcans in the Star Trek TV shows and movies were nearly as cool as Mr. Spock? I think that’s because they were too true to their Vulcan culture. Logic can make you predictable, and boring. But Spock had something more. He could sit down and play his lyre with a group of space-hippies (bad 3rd-season episode of original series) and fit right in, or give scientific lectures. A renaissance man of the 23rd century.

Spock did get to experience emotion in several episodes of the original series, and was thoroughly embarrassed about it later on each time. That’s because he wants to be a vulcan, which is a little illogical for a guy who’s half human. It is “human nature” for us to be what we aren’t. I think he acted that way to get his father’s approval, which he pretty much had to die to do (Star Trek III). Am I too much of a Star Trek nerd?

Anyway, I think Spock does love us, somewhere deep inside. He would just die before he’d admit it. In fact he did die to protect his shipmates (2nd movie). Of course his excuse was “It is logical.”

And how do you know your neighbor’s iguana doesn’t love her? Oh, you don’t. I guess the calculating part is easier to prove. “What’s one plus one?” It flicks out its tongue twice in a row. :smiley:

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John,

Thank you for a much needed detailed recap of Mr. Spock–I never followed it closely enough. It could keep this thread on track (if anything can). And for your good humor.

are you saying a full vulcan could not play the lyre in a quartet? Music has a logic–it’s all math, actually. I’ll submit to your authority on this, but it might be that full vulcans could play/compose better than full humans.

And “empiricists” think they know about the reptilian brain, which has been (wrongly, I’m sure) equated with a psychopaths brain. They don’t attach, care for their young, “form lasting relationships” …

You didn’t say where you stand on this, though. Maybe you are Mr. Spock?

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Billy, if you are a chick, I love you even more.

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I still vote for common sense.

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As do I, but how does one arrive at a “common sense” conclusion? Where does it appear in Billy’s graph? What’s the recipe?

Mix 2/5ths emotion and 3/5ths intelligence, with a dash of experience and bake at 350 for 1/2 hr?

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For some common sense is a gut reaction, for others the result of calculations, setting our feelings aside.

In choosing a spouse, I suggest you do NOT set your feelings aside. It should not be a completely rational decision.

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I still like the common sense method with a heavy dose of feelings as the icing.

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Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.
Albert Einstein, (attributed) --US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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Einstein, schmeinstein. That guy’s hair root were growing into his brain. What did he know!?!

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He wasn’t very common-sensical… the dude broke up two marriages with affairs, womanizing and the like.