DH tyre extraction problem

OK, I’m not proud with that one :

I have big trouble trying to remove my kenda 26X2.6 tyre ! It seems the
park tool plastic, hum, ‘tyre-lift-tools’ (I don’t know their english
name) are not long / strong enough to push up the tyre from the rim. And
since the tube is located ‘inside’ the tyre, if I try hard to lift the
tyre, I’m pinching also the tube in a bad way.

Am I missing something here ?

Oli-

PS : yes, I can remove my monty tyre :slight_smile:

opaugamATaptilonDOTcom !

Down hill tires genraly have a metal bead in them where as most cross
country tires have a kevlar bead. the metal bead keeps the tire on the rim
better which is good when you’re going down a big hill and bad when you
want to take your tire off. On thing that helps alot is to get a set of
metal tire levers. they are just like the plastic park tool ones, except
the added stiffness of the metal helps get the tire off. another thing
that might help is to use 3 or 4 tire levers and work your way aroung the
tire bit by bit.

hope it helps, peter
> OK, I’m not proud with that one :
>
> I have big trouble trying to remove my kenda 26X2.6 tyre ! It seems the
> park tool plastic, hum, ‘tyre-lift-tools’ (I don’t know their english
> name) are not long / strong enough to push up the tyre from the rim.
> And since the tube is located ‘inside’ the tyre, if I try hard to lift
> the tyre, I’m pinching also the tube in a bad way.
>
> Am I missing something here ?
>
> Oli-
>
> PS : yes, I can remove my monty tyre
>
> opaugamATaptilonDOTcom !

Yup, downhill tires can be hard to get on and off due to their stiffer
sidewalls. Plastic tire levers will not usually do the trick (they will
just bend and break). What you need are metal tire levers. You can remove
the tire with one metal tire lever, but two tire levers makes it easier.

Intense sells a metal tire lever:
http://www.intensetires.com/levers.html That is some Intense leverage.
There are also other brands of metal levers.

If you can find a local bike shop that sells freeride or downhill bikes
you shold be able to get a metal tire lever from them. I think
UnicycleSource might have the Intense tire lever, but I’m not sure. It’s
not in their online catalog, but you can call and ask if they have them.

You might also try some of the online freeride bike shops like Airbomb
(http://www.airbomb.com/) to try to find two metal tire levers. I would be
surprised if Airbomb didn’t have a metal tire lever.

john_childs

>From: “Olivier Paugam” <opaugam@aptilon.com>
>
>OK, I’m not proud with that one :
>
> I have big trouble trying to remove my kenda 26X2.6 tyre ! It seems the
> park tool plastic, hum, ‘tyre-lift-tools’ (I don’t know their english
> name) are not long / strong enough to push up the tyre from the rim.
> And since the tube is located ‘inside’ the tyre, if I try hard to lift
> the tyre, I’m pinching also the tube in a bad way.
>
>Am I missing something here ?
>
>Oli-
>
>PS : yes, I can remove my monty tyre
>
>opaugamATaptilonDOTcom !
>


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John Childs wrote:

> What you need are metal tire levers.

I was able to purchase a set of metal tire irons in the sporting goods
section of a local supermarket. There is a small section of low end
replacement tires, cables, tools and the like. I was quite surprised.
Apparently, metal tire irons are low end items, and are priced that way. I
think they were $1.99 or something very close to that price. They were
also strong enough to remove a Kenda 2.6 downhill tire, which was very
tight. You might check similar source of cheap bike parts in you area.

John Hooten

>From: “Olivier Paugam” <opaugam@aptilon.com>
>
>OK, I’m not proud with that one :
>
> I have big trouble trying to remove my kenda 26X2.6 tyre ! It seems the
> park tool plastic, hum, ‘tyre-lift-tools’ (I don’t know their english
> name) are not long / strong enough to push up the tyre from the rim.
> And since the tube is located ‘inside’ the tyre, if I try hard to lift
> the tyre, I’m pinching also the tube in a bad way.
>
>Am I missing something here ?
>
>Oli-
>
>PS : yes, I can remove my monty tyre
>
>opaugamATaptilonDOTcom !

I got a tool called a QuickStick (or some strange spelling of that) at the
LBS recently and found it was much easier to get my Nokian 24x3 on and
off with it. It’s plastic, so it won’t scare up your painted rims. It’s a
round stick about 7 inches long with a flat spot for the rim & a notch for
the tire. Works pretty well. They claim you only need one to change a
tire, which fit with my experience. Cost me about $6 or so.

I’ve been meaning to suggest to unicycle.com that they see about selling
these, it’s a good tool.

Greg

John Childs wrote:

> Yup, downhill tires can be hard to get on and off due to their stiffer
> sidewalls. Plastic tire levers will not usually do the trick (they
> will just bend and break). What you need are metal tire levers. You
> can remove the tire with one metal tire lever, but two tire levers
> makes it easier.
>
> Intense sells a metal tire lever:
> http://www.intensetires.com/levers.html That is some Intense leverage.
> There are also other brands of metal levers.
>
> If you can find a local bike shop that sells freeride or downhill bikes
> you shold be able to get a metal tire lever from them. I think
> UnicycleSource might have the Intense tire lever, but I’m not sure. It’s
> not in their online catalog, but you can call and ask if they have them.
>
> You might also try some of the online freeride bike shops like Airbomb
> (http://www.airbomb.com/) to try to find two metal tire levers. I would
> be surprised if Airbomb didn’t have a metal tire lever.
>
> john_childs
>
> >From: “Olivier Paugam” <opaugam@aptilon.com>
> >
> >OK, I’m not proud with that one :
> >
> > I have big trouble trying to remove my kenda 26X2.6 tyre ! It seems
> > the park tool plastic, hum, ‘tyre-lift-tools’ (I don’t know their
> > english name) are not long / strong enough to push up the tyre from
> > the rim. And since the tube is located ‘inside’ the tyre, if I try
> > hard to lift the tyre, I’m pinching also the tube in a bad way.
> >
> >Am I missing something here ?
> >
> >Oli-
> >
> >PS : yes, I can remove my monty tyre
> >
> >opaugamATaptilonDOTcom !
> >
>
>
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“Wow, I didn’t know being a super hero could be so painful.”

I tried a QuickStick (sp?) and it didn’t work very well for me to remove
my 26x3 Gazz from a Sun Doublewide rim. I eventually got the tire off
using the QuickStick and some other levers, but it wasn’t easy and I was
almost sure I was going to break the lever. After that experience I got a
metal lever and tire changes are much easier now. But if you can’t find a
metal lever, a QuickStick is about the only other lever that will work.

The QuickStick is a great lever for lighter XC tires, freestyle tires,
etc. It’s just not the best lever for DH tires.

john_childs

>From: Greg House <ghouse@spammenot.southwind.net>
>
>I got a tool called a QuickStick (or some strange spelling of that) at
>the LBS recently and found it was much easier to get my Nokian 24x3 on
>and off with it. It’s plastic, so it won’t scare up your painted rims.
>It’s a round stick about 7 inches long with a flat spot for the rim & a
>notch for the tire. Works pretty well. They claim you only need one to
>change a tire, which fit with my experience. Cost me about $6 or so.
>
>I’ve been meaning to suggest to unicycle.com that they see about selling
>these, it’s a good tool.
>
>Greg
>


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John Childs wrote:
>
> I tried a QuickStick (sp?) and it didn’t work very well for me to remove
> my 26x3 Gazz from a Sun Doublewide rim.

The problem isn’t so much the “Downhill Tires” that we’re using, but the
Sun DoubleWide itself that makes tire removal difficult. Try putting any
other tire on your DoubleWide and you’ll likely have the same problem. On
the other hand, a Gazz or Intense comes off a HED. rim easily by hand-- as
in no levers. Unfortunately HED. stopped making 24" rims.

Chris

I now use ordinary motorcycle tire irons (American English) which work
fine for the 24x3 Gazz, in fact I fixed a flat yesterday. I once tried
plastic bike ones, and as you say, they don’t work at all.

—Nathan

“Olivier Paugam” <opaugam@aptilon.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> OK, I’m not proud with that one :
>
> I have big trouble trying to remove my kenda 26X2.6 tyre ! It seems the
> park tool plastic, hum, ‘tyre-lift-tools’ (I don’t know their english
> name) are not long / strong enough to push up the tyre from the rim.
> And since the tube is located ‘inside’ the tyre, if I try hard to lift
> the tyre, I’m pinching also the tube in a bad way.
>
> Am I missing something here ?
>
> Oli-
>
> PS : yes, I can remove my monty tyre
>
> opaugamATaptilonDOTcom !

I think the proper american term is “plastic tire remover thingy” :slight_smile:

> I think the proper american term is “plastic tire remover thingy”

And in Australian English it is known as a “plastic TYRE remover thingy”.

Wayne.

Also make sure the bead of the tire is at the center of the rim all the
way around–except where you are removing it. Getting the beads to the
center gives you more room where you need it.

Be careful not to break the metal bead or bend your rim with your
metal levers.

David Maxfield Bainbridge Island, WA

Steve wrote:

> I think the proper american term is “plastic tire remover thingy”
>

I usually call them just tire irons. I guess that's bike shop
lingo for you.

-Max A. Dingemans

Plastic irons?

Klaas Bil

On 19 Sep 2001 15:44:50 -0700, dingeman@citilink.com (dingeman) wrote:

>
>
>Steve wrote:
>
>> I think the proper american term is “plastic tire remover thingy”
>>
>
> I usually call them just tire irons. I guess that’s bike shop lingo
> for you.
>
> -Max A. Dingemans
>
>


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Plastic irons?

Klaas Bil

On 19 Sep 2001 15:44:50 -0700, dingeman@citilink.com (dingeman) wrote:

>
>
>Steve wrote:
>
>> I think the proper american term is “plastic tire remover thingy”
>>
>
> I usually call them just tire irons. I guess that’s bike shop lingo
> for you.
>
> -Max A. Dingemans
>
>


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> Plastic irons?
>

Yeah, im talkin about plastic ones, but I jsut call them tire irons.

> Plastic irons?
>

Yeah, im talkin about plastic ones, but I jsut call them tire irons.