Deja vu: Seven hurt in shooting at California school

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/03/22/school.shooting.04/index.html

Seven hurt in shooting at California school

March 22, 2001 Web posted at: 6:24 p.m. EST (2324 GMT)

EL CAJON, California – At least seven people were hurt Thursday at a suburban
San Diego high school six miles from where another school shooting occurred
earlier this month.

One adult and three students were among the injured, said Capt. Bill McClure of
the El Cajon Police Department.

A school resource officer engaged the suspect in a running gun battle,
police said.

A suspect is in custody with gunshot wounds, McClure said. “There’s no knowledge
of any life-threatening injuries at this time,” he said.

One victim is a teen-age boy who suffered shotgun pellets to the upper chest.
His injuries are considered serious.

Both were taken to Sharp Memorial Hospital, authorities said.

The alleged gunman is said to be an 18-year-old male who suffered gunshot wounds
to the mouth and the buttocks during an exchange of gunfire with police.

The suspected gunman is undergoing surgery, but his wounds were not thought to
be life-threatening, a hospital spokeswoman said.

Two adults had minor injuries, McClure said.

It was not clear whether the suspect is a student at Granite Hills High School,
the site of the shootings.

“He just got out of the car, he got down like in a sniper position and just
started opening fire,” a student told a reporter. “It seemed to be a shotgun.”

At least eight shots were fired, he said. “One of them came at least two inches
away from my head. If I wouldn’t have ducked down, I would have been shot. It’s
just kind of a blur from there.”

Another student heard the gunfire and took off running.

“It sounded like an explosion, like in a chemistry class or something,” student
Ryan Carrillo told KGTV of San Diego.

Carrillo, a sophomore, heard the gunshotsas he walked to a bathroom near the
office of the school, which has 2,900 students. He fled to a nearby park where
weeping students gathered to hug and talk. Parents ran about, frantically
searching for their children.

Carrillo said he heard the shots at 12:54 p.m.

At about the same time, the El Cajon Police Department received an “officer
needs help” call, said Dave Cook, a police dispatcher. He said two deputies were
at the school for an unrelated reason.

Witnesses told KFMB-TV that a suspect, armed with a shotgun and handgun, was
wrestled to the ground by police. The station said officers were searching for
possibly a second suspect.

Surrounding streets were closed and students streamed from the school and walked
to a nearby grade school, where they were to be picked up by their parents.

“There’s parents all over the place, everybody’s on the cell phones,” said one
man at the scene. “One mother was standing here talking with her daughter, who’s
actually in one of the classrooms, talking to her on the cell phone.”

Police told CNN that authorities were urging parents not to travel to the school
in an attempt to retrieve their children.

A staging area near the school was being set up at a nearby elementary school
where parents and children could reunite, Cook said.

The shootings occurred just over a week after a forum on school safety was held,
inspired by the March 5 shootings at Santana High School in nearby Santee.

Granite Hills High School is a few miles south of Santee, where two people died
and 13 were wounded.

In the Santee shooting, Charles Andrew “Andy” Williams is charged with 28
felonies, including two counts of murder. Investigators say in court documents
that Williams carefully planned the March 5 shooting but had no specific target.


Sean S. -:- ICQ: 1826323 (Email: sunymoon <AT> GeoCities >DOT< com )

Re: Deja vu: Seven hurt in shooting at California school

Jeez what’s next flack jackets for all school children because the gun lobby
won’t let us do anything about the number of guns in this country?


Gary Stein gestein@starpower.net http://www.mischealthaids.org

“Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea massive, difficult
to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind- boggling amounts
of excrement when you least expect it.” (Gene Spafford)

“Sean” <sunymoon@geocities.com> wrote in message
news:99e1tr$h17$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
> http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/03/22/school.shooting.04/index.html
>
> Seven hurt in shooting at California school
>
> March 22, 2001 Web posted at: 6:24 p.m. EST (2324 GMT)
>
> EL CAJON, California – At least seven people were hurt Thursday at a suburban
> San Diego high school six miles from where another school
shooting
> occurred earlier this month.
>
> One adult and three students were among the injured, said Capt. Bill
McClure
> of the El Cajon Police Department.
>
> A school resource officer engaged the suspect in a running gun battle,
> police said.
>
> A suspect is in custody with gunshot wounds, McClure said. "There’s no
> knowledge of any life-threatening injuries at this time," he said.
>
> One victim is a teen-age boy who suffered shotgun pellets to the upper chest.
> His injuries are considered serious.
>
> Both were taken to Sharp Memorial Hospital, authorities said.
>
> The alleged gunman is said to be an 18-year-old male who suffered
> gunshot wounds to the mouth and the buttocks during an exchange of
> gunfire with police.
>
> The suspected gunman is undergoing surgery, but his wounds were not
thought
> to be life-threatening, a hospital spokeswoman said.
>
> Two adults had minor injuries, McClure said.
>
> It was not clear whether the suspect is a student at Granite Hills High
> School, the site of the shootings.
>
> "He just got out of the car, he got down like in a sniper position and
just
> started opening fire," a student told a reporter. “It seemed to be a shotgun.”
>
> At least eight shots were fired, he said. "One of them came at least two
> inches away from my head. If I wouldn’t have ducked down, I would have
been
> shot. It’s just kind of a blur from there."
>
> Another student heard the gunfire and took off running.
>
> “It sounded like an explosion, like in a chemistry class or something,”
> student Ryan Carrillo told KGTV of San Diego.
>
> Carrillo, a sophomore, heard the gunshotsas he walked to a bathroom near
the
> office of the school, which has 2,900 students. He fled to a nearby park where
> weeping students gathered to hug and talk. Parents ran about, frantically
> searching for their children.
>
> Carrillo said he heard the shots at 12:54 p.m.
>
> At about the same time, the El Cajon Police Department received an
"officer
> needs help" call, said Dave Cook, a police dispatcher. He said two
deputies
> were at the school for an unrelated reason.
>
> Witnesses told KFMB-TV that a suspect, armed with a shotgun and handgun,
was
> wrestled to the ground by police. The station said officers were searching for
> possibly a second suspect.
>
> Surrounding streets were closed and students streamed from the school and
> walked to a nearby grade school, where they were to be picked up by their
> parents.
>
> “There’s parents all over the place, everybody’s on the cell phones,” said one
> man at the scene. "One mother was standing here talking with her daughter,
> who’s actually in one of the classrooms, talking to her on the cell phone."
>
> Police told CNN that authorities were urging parents not to travel to the
> school in an attempt to retrieve their children.
>
> A staging area near the school was being set up at a nearby elementary school
> where parents and children could reunite, Cook said.
>
> The shootings occurred just over a week after a forum on school safety
> was held, inspired by the March 5 shootings at Santana High School in
> nearby Santee.
>
> Granite Hills High School is a few miles south of Santee, where two people
> died and 13 were wounded.
>
> In the Santee shooting, Charles Andrew “Andy” Williams is charged with 28
> felonies, including two counts of murder. Investigators say in court
> documents that Williams carefully planned the March 5 shooting but had no
> specific target.
>
> –
> Sean S. -:- ICQ: 1826323 (Email: sunymoon <AT> GeoCities >DOT< com )
>

Re: Deja vu: Seven hurt in shooting at California school

Actually Gary - I had an idea for a line of Jackets for kids that were
kevlar lined.


JD

“Of course that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong . . .” Dennis Miller


Gary Stein wrote in message <99e375$ho3$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com>…
>Jeez what’s next flack jackets for all school children because the gun
lobby
>won’t let us do anything about the number of guns in this country?
>
>–
>Gary Stein gestein@starpower.net http://www.mischealthaids.org
>
>"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea massive, difficult
>to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind- boggling
>amounts of excrement when you least expect it." (Gene Spafford)
>
>
>“Sean” <sunymoon@geocities.com> wrote in message
>news:99e1tr$h17$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
>> http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/03/22/school.shooting.04/index.html
>>
>> Seven hurt in shooting at California school
>>
>> March 22, 2001 Web posted at: 6:24 p.m. EST (2324 GMT)
>>
>> EL CAJON, California – At least seven people were hurt Thursday at a
>> suburban San Diego high school six miles from where another school
>shooting
>> occurred earlier this month.
>>
>> One adult and three students were among the injured, said Capt. Bill
>McClure
>> of the El Cajon Police Department.
>>
>> A school resource officer engaged the suspect in a running gun battle,
>> police said.
>>
>> A suspect is in custody with gunshot wounds, McClure said. "There’s no
>> knowledge of any life-threatening injuries at this time," he said.
>>
>> One victim is a teen-age boy who suffered shotgun pellets to the upper chest.
>> His injuries are considered serious.
>>
>> Both were taken to Sharp Memorial Hospital, authorities said.
>>
>> The alleged gunman is said to be an 18-year-old male who suffered gunshot
>> wounds to the mouth and the buttocks during an exchange of gunfire with
>> police.
>>
>> The suspected gunman is undergoing surgery, but his wounds were not
>thought
>> to be life-threatening, a hospital spokeswoman said.
>>
>> Two adults had minor injuries, McClure said.
>>
>> It was not clear whether the suspect is a student at Granite Hills High
>> School, the site of the shootings.
>>
>> "He just got out of the car, he got down like in a sniper position and
>just
>> started opening fire," a student told a reporter. "It seemed to be a
>> shotgun."
>>
>> At least eight shots were fired, he said. "One of them came at least two
>> inches away from my head. If I wouldn’t have ducked down, I would have
>been
>> shot. It’s just kind of a blur from there."
>>
>> Another student heard the gunfire and took off running.
>>
>> “It sounded like an explosion, like in a chemistry class or something,”
>> student Ryan Carrillo told KGTV of San Diego.
>>
>> Carrillo, a sophomore, heard the gunshotsas he walked to a bathroom near
>the
>> office of the school, which has 2,900 students. He fled to a nearby park
>> where weeping students gathered to hug and talk. Parents ran about,
>> frantically searching for their children.
>>
>> Carrillo said he heard the shots at 12:54 p.m.
>>
>> At about the same time, the El Cajon Police Department received an
>"officer
>> needs help" call, said Dave Cook, a police dispatcher. He said two
>deputies
>> were at the school for an unrelated reason.
>>
>> Witnesses told KFMB-TV that a suspect, armed with a shotgun and handgun,
>was
>> wrestled to the ground by police. The station said officers were
searching
>> for possibly a second suspect.
>>
>> Surrounding streets were closed and students streamed from the school and
>> walked to a nearby grade school, where they were to be picked up by their
>> parents.
>>
>> “There’s parents all over the place, everybody’s on the cell phones,”
said
>> one man at the scene. "One mother was standing here talking with her
>> daughter, who’s actually in one of the classrooms, talking to her on the cell
>> phone."
>>
>> Police told CNN that authorities were urging parents not to travel to the
>> school in an attempt to retrieve their children.
>>
>> A staging area near the school was being set up at a nearby elementary school
>> where parents and children could reunite, Cook said.
>>
>> The shootings occurred just over a week after a forum on school safety
was
>> held, inspired by the March 5 shootings at Santana High School in nearby
>> Santee.
>>
>> Granite Hills High School is a few miles south of Santee, where two
people
>> died and 13 were wounded.
>>
>> In the Santee shooting, Charles Andrew “Andy” Williams is charged with 28
>> felonies, including two counts of murder. Investigators say in court
>> documents that Williams carefully planned the March 5 shooting but had no
>> specific target.
>>
>> –
>> Sean S. -:- ICQ: 1826323 (Email: sunymoon <AT> GeoCities >DOT< com )
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Deja vu: Seven hurt in shooting at California school

“JD” <jd@alegate.com> wrote in message
news:99e51k$ikr$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
> Actually Gary - I had an idea for a line of Jackets for kids that were
> kevlar lined.

I bet if you could get the cost into the $200-$300 range and keep the weight to
a reasonable level you would sell hundreds of thousands of them.

Though there are newer materials being researched by the Army that provide more
protection at less weight per square inch then does Kevlar it would probably be
to expensive. The problem with Kevlar is for protection from anything stronger
then a snub nosed 38 weight begins to become a problem. Hell remember those damn
Nam era Flak vests most 13 years olds would collapse under the combined weight
of the vest and there backpack full of books.


Gary Stein gestein@starpower.net http://www.mischealthaids.org

“Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea massive, difficult
to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind- boggling amounts
of excrement when you least expect it.” (Gene Spafford)

>
> –
> JD
>
> “Of course that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong . . .” Dennis Miller
>
> —
> Gary Stein wrote in message <99e375$ho3$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com>…
> >Jeez what’s next flack jackets for all school children because the gun
> lobby
> >won’t let us do anything about the number of guns in this country?
> >
> >–
> >Gary Stein gestein@starpower.net http://www.mischealthaids.org
> >
> >"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea massive,
> >difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-
> >boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect
it."
> > (Gene Spafford)
> >
> >
> >“Sean” <sunymoon@geocities.com> wrote in message
> >news:99e1tr$h17$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
> >> http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/03/22/school.shooting.04/index.html
> >>
> >> Seven hurt in shooting at California school
> >>
> >> March 22, 2001 Web posted at: 6:24 p.m. EST (2324 GMT)
> >>
> >> EL CAJON, California – At least seven people were hurt Thursday at a
> >> suburban San Diego high school six miles from where another school
> >shooting
> >> occurred earlier this month.
> >>
> >> One adult and three students were among the injured, said Capt. Bill
> >McClure
> >> of the El Cajon Police Department.
> >>
> >> A school resource officer engaged the suspect in a running gun battle,
> >> police said.
> >>
> >> A suspect is in custody with gunshot wounds, McClure said. "There’s no
> >> knowledge of any life-threatening injuries at this time," he said.
> >>
> >> One victim is a teen-age boy who suffered shotgun pellets to the upper
> >> chest. His injuries are considered serious.
> >>
> >> Both were taken to Sharp Memorial Hospital, authorities said.
> >>
> >> The alleged gunman is said to be an 18-year-old male who suffered
gunshot
> >> wounds to the mouth and the buttocks during an exchange of gunfire with
> >> police.
> >>
> >> The suspected gunman is undergoing surgery, but his wounds were not
> >thought
> >> to be life-threatening, a hospital spokeswoman said.
> >>
> >> Two adults had minor injuries, McClure said.
> >>
> >> It was not clear whether the suspect is a student at Granite Hills High
> >> School, the site of the shootings.
> >>
> >> "He just got out of the car, he got down like in a sniper position and
> >just
> >> started opening fire," a student told a reporter. "It seemed to be a
> >> shotgun."
> >>
> >> At least eight shots were fired, he said. "One of them came at least
two
> >> inches away from my head. If I wouldn’t have ducked down, I would have
> >been
> >> shot. It’s just kind of a blur from there."
> >>
> >> Another student heard the gunfire and took off running.
> >>
> >> “It sounded like an explosion, like in a chemistry class or something,”
> >> student Ryan Carrillo told KGTV of San Diego.
> >>
> >> Carrillo, a sophomore, heard the gunshotsas he walked to a bathroom
near
> >the
> >> office of the school, which has 2,900 students. He fled to a nearby
park
> >> where weeping students gathered to hug and talk. Parents ran about,
> >> frantically searching for their children.
> >>
> >> Carrillo said he heard the shots at 12:54 p.m.
> >>
> >> At about the same time, the El Cajon Police Department received an
> >"officer
> >> needs help" call, said Dave Cook, a police dispatcher. He said two
> >deputies
> >> were at the school for an unrelated reason.
> >>
> >> Witnesses told KFMB-TV that a suspect, armed with a shotgun and
handgun,
> >was
> >> wrestled to the ground by police. The station said officers were
> searching
> >> for possibly a second suspect.
> >>
> >> Surrounding streets were closed and students streamed from the school
and
> >> walked to a nearby grade school, where they were to be picked up by
their
> >> parents.
> >>
> >> “There’s parents all over the place, everybody’s on the cell phones,”
> said
> >> one man at the scene. "One mother was standing here talking with her
> >> daughter, who’s actually in one of the classrooms, talking to her on
the
> >> cell phone."
> >>
> >> Police told CNN that authorities were urging parents not to travel to
the
> >> school in an attempt to retrieve their children.
> >>
> >> A staging area near the school was being set up at a nearby elementary
> >> school where parents and children could reunite, Cook said.
> >>
> >> The shootings occurred just over a week after a forum on school safety
> was
> >> held, inspired by the March 5 shootings at Santana High School in
nearby
> >> Santee.
> >>
> >> Granite Hills High School is a few miles south of Santee, where two
> people
> >> died and 13 were wounded.
> >>
> >> In the Santee shooting, Charles Andrew “Andy” Williams is charged with
28
> >> felonies, including two counts of murder. Investigators say in court
> >> documents that Williams carefully planned the March 5 shooting but had
no
> >> specific target.
> >>
> >> –
> >> Sean S. -:- ICQ: 1826323 (Email: sunymoon <AT> GeoCities >DOT< com )
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Re: Deja vu: Seven hurt in shooting at California school

We still wore those heavy ass flak jackets in 1983. Small price to pay for
protection.

Problem with kevlar jackets is that gang bangers would have them too . . .


JD

“Of course that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong . . .” Dennis Miller


Gary Stein wrote in message <99e88o$k6r$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com>…
>
>“JD” <jd@alegate.com> wrote in message
>news:99e51k$ikr$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
>> Actually Gary - I had an idea for a line of Jackets for kids that were
>> kevlar lined.
>
>I bet if you could get the cost into the $200-$300 range and keep the
weight
>to a reasonable level you would sell hundreds of thousands of them.
>
>Though there are newer materials being researched by the Army that provide more
>protection at less weight per square inch then does Kevlar it would probably be
>to expensive. The problem with Kevlar is for protection from anything stronger
>then a snub nosed 38 weight begins to become a problem. Hell remember those
>damn Nam era Flak vests most 13 years olds would collapse under the combined
>weight of the vest and there backpack full of books.
>
>–
>Gary Stein gestein@starpower.net http://www.mischealthaids.org
>
>"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea massive, difficult
>to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind- boggling
>amounts of excrement when you least expect it." (Gene Spafford)
>
>
>>
>> –
>> JD
>>
>> “Of course that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong . . .” Dennis Miller
>>
>> —
>> Gary Stein wrote in message <99e375$ho3$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com>…
>> >Jeez what’s next flack jackets for all school children because the gun
>> lobby
>> >won’t let us do anything about the number of guns in this country?
>> >
>> >–
>> >Gary Stein gestein@starpower.net http://www.mischealthaids.org
>> >
>> >"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea massive,
>> >difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-
>> >boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect
>it."
>> > (Gene Spafford)
>> >
>> >
>> >“Sean” <sunymoon@geocities.com> wrote in message
>> >news:99e1tr$h17$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
>> >> http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/03/22/school.shooting.04/index.html
>> >>
>> >> Seven hurt in shooting at California school
>> >>
>> >> March 22, 2001 Web posted at: 6:24 p.m. EST (2324 GMT)
>> >>
>> >> EL CAJON, California – At least seven people were hurt Thursday at a
>> >> suburban San Diego high school six miles from where another school
>> >shooting
>> >> occurred earlier this month.
>> >>
>> >> One adult and three students were among the injured, said Capt. Bill
>> >McClure
>> >> of the El Cajon Police Department.
>> >>
>> >> A school resource officer engaged the suspect in a running gun battle,
>> >> police said.
>> >>
>> >> A suspect is in custody with gunshot wounds, McClure said. "There’s no
>> >> knowledge of any life-threatening injuries at this time," he said.
>> >>
>> >> One victim is a teen-age boy who suffered shotgun pellets to the upper
>> >> chest. His injuries are considered serious.
>> >>
>> >> Both were taken to Sharp Memorial Hospital, authorities said.
>> >>
>> >> The alleged gunman is said to be an 18-year-old male who suffered
>gunshot
>> >> wounds to the mouth and the buttocks during an exchange of gunfire
with
>> >> police.
>> >>
>> >> The suspected gunman is undergoing surgery, but his wounds were not
>> >thought
>> >> to be life-threatening, a hospital spokeswoman said.
>> >>
>> >> Two adults had minor injuries, McClure said.
>> >>
>> >> It was not clear whether the suspect is a student at Granite Hills
High
>> >> School, the site of the shootings.
>> >>
>> >> "He just got out of the car, he got down like in a sniper position and
>> >just
>> >> started opening fire," a student told a reporter. "It seemed to be a
>> >> shotgun."
>> >>
>> >> At least eight shots were fired, he said. "One of them came at least
>two
>> >> inches away from my head. If I wouldn’t have ducked down, I would have
>> >been
>> >> shot. It’s just kind of a blur from there."
>> >>
>> >> Another student heard the gunfire and took off running.
>> >>
>> >> "It sounded like an explosion, like in a chemistry class or
something,"
>> >> student Ryan Carrillo told KGTV of San Diego.
>> >>
>> >> Carrillo, a sophomore, heard the gunshotsas he walked to a bathroom
>near
>> >the
>> >> office of the school, which has 2,900 students. He fled to a nearby
>park
>> >> where weeping students gathered to hug and talk. Parents ran about,
>> >> frantically searching for their children.
>> >>
>> >> Carrillo said he heard the shots at 12:54 p.m.
>> >>
>> >> At about the same time, the El Cajon Police Department received an
>> >"officer
>> >> needs help" call, said Dave Cook, a police dispatcher. He said two
>> >deputies
>> >> were at the school for an unrelated reason.
>> >>
>> >> Witnesses told KFMB-TV that a suspect, armed with a shotgun and
>handgun,
>> >was
>> >> wrestled to the ground by police. The station said officers were
>> searching
>> >> for possibly a second suspect.
>> >>
>> >> Surrounding streets were closed and students streamed from the school
>and
>> >> walked to a nearby grade school, where they were to be picked up by
>their
>> >> parents.
>> >>
>> >> “There’s parents all over the place, everybody’s on the cell phones,”
>> said
>> >> one man at the scene. "One mother was standing here talking with her
>> >> daughter, who’s actually in one of the classrooms, talking to her on
>the
>> >> cell phone."
>> >>
>> >> Police told CNN that authorities were urging parents not to travel to
>the
>> >> school in an attempt to retrieve their children.
>> >>
>> >> A staging area near the school was being set up at a nearby elementary
>> >> school where parents and children could reunite, Cook said.
>> >>
>> >> The shootings occurred just over a week after a forum on school safety
>> was
>> >> held, inspired by the March 5 shootings at Santana High School in
>nearby
>> >> Santee.
>> >>
>> >> Granite Hills High School is a few miles south of Santee, where two
>> people
>> >> died and 13 were wounded.
>> >>
>> >> In the Santee shooting, Charles Andrew “Andy” Williams is charged with
>28
>> >> felonies, including two counts of murder. Investigators say in court
>> >> documents that Williams carefully planned the March 5 shooting but had
>no
>> >> specific target.
>> >>
>> >> –
>> >> Sean S. -:- ICQ: 1826323 (Email: sunymoon <AT> GeoCities >DOT< com )
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>