copyright type question

there’s a company that has apparently gone out of business, they have
multiple domains that went to the same site and none redirect to it
anymore… also the has disappeared for a few months without any warning
or explanation and the domain registration will expire soon. if i purchase
the domain<s> and make the same style of site on it, there is nothing the
company that had at one time owned it can do legally, right?


Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com

Disclaimer: I have no idea.

But…

Logically, just cuz a business goes under doesn’t mean their stuff is no
longer copyrighted…does it?

Deborah

Tony Ranieri wrote:

> there’s a company that has apparently gone out of business, they have
> multiple domains that went to the same site and none redirect to it
> anymore… also the has disappeared for a few months without any warning
> or explanation and the domain registration will expire soon. if i
> purchase the domain<s> and make the same style of site on it, there is
> nothing the company that had at one time owned it can do legally, right?
>
> –
> Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com

im not sure if they ever had a copyright in the first place…


Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com

“Deborah” <deborah@SPAMTHISwebcatdesign.com> wrote in message
news:3B2D5D0B.1C0D6422@SPAMTHISwebcatdesign.com
> Disclaimer: I have no idea.
>
> But…
>
> Logically, just cuz a business goes under doesn’t mean their stuff is no
longer
> copyrighted…does it?
>
> Deborah
>
> Tony Ranieri wrote:
>
> > there’s a company that has apparently gone out of business, they have
> > multiple domains that went to the same site and none redirect to it
> > anymore… also the has disappeared for a few months without any
warning or
> > explanation and the domain registration will expire soon. if i
> > purchase
the
> > domain<s> and make the same style of site on it, there is nothing the
> > company that had at one time owned it can do legally, right?
> >
> > –
> > Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com

I’m of the understanding that any original work is automatially
copyrighted upon date of completion. As long as you can show an earlier
completetion date you’ve got the copyright.


Brian Wilmot http://www.jumpnow.net/ http://www.uglybillboards.com/ “You
can die but you’re never dead” - Red Hot Chili Peppers “Tony Ranieri”
<woo_boy@puckoff.com> wrote in message
news:9gjn06$kkk$1@constitution.worldwebserver.com
> im not sure if they ever had a copyright in the first place…
>
>
> –
> Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com
>
>
> “Deborah” <deborah@SPAMTHISwebcatdesign.com> wrote in message
> news:3B2D5D0B.1C0D6422@SPAMTHISwebcatdesign.com
> > Disclaimer: I have no idea.
> >
> > But…
> >
> > Logically, just cuz a business goes under doesn’t mean their
> > stuff is no
> longer
> > copyrighted…does it?
> >
> > Deborah
> >
> > Tony Ranieri wrote:
> >
> > > there’s a company that has apparently gone out of business, they
> > > have multiple domains that went to the same site and none
> > > redirect to it anymore… also the has disappeared for a few
> > > months without any
> warning or
> > > explanation and the domain registration will expire soon. if i
purchase
> the
> > > domain<s> and make the same style of site on it, there is nothing
> > > the company that had at one time owned it can do legally, right?
> > >
> > > –
> > > Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com
>

Anything they create is automatically copyrighted. You don’t have to file
paperwork for a copyright to be in effect.

Deborah

Tony Ranieri wrote:

> im not sure if they ever had a copyright in the first place…
>
> –
> Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com
>
> “Deborah” <deborah@SPAMTHISwebcatdesign.com> wrote in message
> news:3B2D5D0B.1C0D6422@SPAMTHISwebcatdesign.com
> > Disclaimer: I have no idea.
> >
> > But…
> >
> > Logically, just cuz a business goes under doesn’t mean their
> > stuff is no
> longer
> > copyrighted…does it?
> >
> > Deborah
> >
> > Tony Ranieri wrote:
> >
> > > there’s a company that has apparently gone out of business, they
> > > have multiple domains that went to the same site and none
> > > redirect to it anymore… also the has disappeared for a few
> > > months without any
> warning or
> > > explanation and the domain registration will expire soon. if i
> > > purchase
> the
> > > domain<s> and make the same style of site on it, there is nothing
> > > the company that had at one time owned it can do legally, right?
> > >
> > > –
> > > Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com

Copyright is vested in works. The work has to be a substantial or
significant work that is uniquely created by the author or creator.
Copyright in a “site name” or “domain” does not exist - the only right a
person may have to that is if it is registered in their name. The right is
a registration right only. If you are allowed to register a domain name by
the authorities who control domain names in your country, then that domain
name becomes yours, even if someone else has previously owned it. If you
create a site which is simply similar to someone else’s site or former
site, there is no breach of copyright. You are copying an idea, not a
work. And ideas cannot be copyrighted… Probably the only other fly in
the ointment may be Trademark Law. If a company has registered its domain
name as a Trade Mark, or vice versa, then you may infringe its Trademark
rights by registering and using a domain name that is the same as their
Trademark. But a Trademark usually also incorporates unique graphic
elements, and is generally not just a few words… So chances are, in the
unlikely event that the domain name is a registered Trademark, you can
still use the words so long as they are not household words uniquely owned
by a registered Trademark holder and also so long as you do not copy
characteristic elements of the graphic elements used. On the other hand,
certain Trademarks (eg Coca Cola) in wide usage are protected from use by
others, but you will probably recognise such cases. In rare cases, a
registered Trademark that has been “established” by the owners but which
is not in universal usage may be protected. The main thing is - you can
copy ideas, but don’t copy exact works or substantial parts of works.

Sean McLean

Tony Ranieri wrote:

> there’s a company that has apparently gone out of business, they have
> multiple domains that went to the same site and none redirect to it
> anymore… also the has disappeared for a few months without any warning
> or explanation and the domain registration will expire soon. if i
> purchase the domain<s> and make the same style of site on it, there is
> nothing the company that had at one time owned it can do legally, right?
>
> –
> Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com

That was pretty extensive and informative. I didn’t start the thread but
all the info was right there. Thanks


Brian Wilmot http://www.jumpnow.net/ http://www.uglybillboards.com/ “You
can die but you’re never dead” - Red Hot Chili Peppers “smpa”
<smpa@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:3B348F86.B2E6494E@ozemail.com.au
> Copyright is vested in works. The work has to be a substantial or
significant
> work that is uniquely created by the author or creator. Copyright in a
"site
> name" or “domain” does not exist - the only right a person may have to
that is
> if it is registered in their name. The right is a registration
> right only.
If
> you are allowed to register a domain name by the authorities who control
domain
> names in your country, then that domain name becomes yours, even if
someone else
> has previously owned it. If you create a site which is simply similar to
someone
> else’s site or former site, there is no breach of copyright. You are
copying an
> idea, not a work. And ideas cannot be copyrighted… Probably the only
other fly
> in the ointment may be Trademark Law. If a company has registered its
domain
> name as a Trade Mark, or vice versa, then you may infringe its Trademark
rights
> by registering and using a domain name that is the same as their
Trademark. But
> a Trademark usually also incorporates unique graphic elements, and is
generally
> not just a few words… So chances are, in the unlikely event that the
domain
> name is a registered Trademark, you can still use the words so long as
they are
> not household words uniquely owned by a registered Trademark holder and
also so
> long as you do not copy characteristic elements of the graphic elements
used. On
> the other hand, certain Trademarks (eg Coca Cola) in wide usage are
protected
> from use by others, but you will probably recognise such cases. In rare
cases, a
> registered Trademark that has been “established” by the owners but which
is not
> in universal usage may be protected. The main thing is - you can copy
ideas, but
> don’t copy exact works or substantial parts of works.
>
> Sean McLean
>
> Tony Ranieri wrote:
>
> > there’s a company that has apparently gone out of business, they have
> > multiple domains that went to the same site and none redirect to it
> > anymore… also the has disappeared for a few months without any
warning or
> > explanation and the domain registration will expire soon. if i
> > purchase
the
> > domain<s> and make the same style of site on it, there is nothing the
> > company that had at one time owned it can do legally, right?
> >
> > –
> > Tony Raineri http://www.woogu.com