if you dont have kids, you wont enjoy the challenge of teaching them to unicycle
If I needed to ask a cross section of unicyclists to persuade me one way or the other, deep down I’d know I didn’t want kids.
Personally, I think more people need to have your attitude. If people would seriously contemplate the responsibility of having children we would have fewer problems in society.
I’m not having children either. When people hear me say that they always say the same thing “you’ll change your mind”. It’s insulting.
Basically I’m telling you to stick to your guns. It’s good to see people thinking about things in a responsible manner for once.
-Joe
A serious decision
All I can tell you is that I had a huge thrill two days ago. My daughter “called” us via webcam from Calgary and showed us our 10 month old grandson taking a few steps down the hall.
You can’t have grandkids unless you have kids first.
You have a long time to think about having kids. I had my 1st at 31. I don’t want to convince you to have kids, but I would wait to get snipped. You don’t know who you will meet and how you will feel in a few years. I would use other protection until your older. I have ponder being fixed, but I have two kids and we are 99% sure we are done, unless something devastating were to happen to one of them.
Peleschram - No over population here, two in, two out
Well if you are currently single, then couldnt the vesectomy wait?
You might change your mind in the mean time.
There is some information what was left out of the original post.
Firstly, is he married or in a long term relationship? If not, he should be wrapping it up every time anyway - and that would take care of the birth control. There is no point in getting snipped if you are wearing a condom to prevent STD’s anyway.
If he IS in a long term relationship and just tired of wearing a condom, using the pill, etc then I think this should be a conversation between him and his significant other. Her opinion matters the most here.
The first post also presented a false dichotomy. He asked us to either convince him to have kids or get a vasectomy. Those aren’t his only two choices. I don’t plan on having kids but I’m not getting snipped either. Not having a vasectomy leaves his options open for later, it doesn’t MAKE him have kids.
(And no, I’m not sure why I wrote this using him in the 3rd person.)
It’s less about space and more about wasting resources… I realize we have occupied a very very small part of the world, but we are major resource wasters.
We are already overpopulated. You didn’t worsen or better the situation…
I meant to say that the population should get smaller instead of larger. There are simply too many people right now and things would be a whole lot better if our population was cut in half. Now I’m not exactly for going out and killing half the people on our planet, the best way is to just have less children.
Not trying to make you feel bad for being a parent. I can’t judge as I know nothing about you and your children. Who knows, maybe you are one of the ones that SHOULD have had children.
If everyone started to have two children, the population would go down, not all the children would make it to an age to have children of there own.
Over population is a judgement call. Are we over populated enough a kill species, yes. could we produce enough food for everyone if we wanted, I believe so.
I do not feel bad for being a parent. I believe my children are intellegent and can grow up, to make a difference and be productive members of society.
Not married, and just got out of a long term relationship. Sorry, I answered this in another post on the first page I think, but I should have put it in my original.
No false dichotomy. I’m already convinced that I will never want kids, I want you to convince me otherwise, to see if it’s possible. Those are the only two options, have kids, or don’t.
Reason for getting one now: I don’t ever want kids. I don’t ever want to have a girl “oops” me. As in “oops, I’m pregnant, the condom must have broken, but I’m keeping the kid, and now you have to pay child support.” I realize there’s not a lot of risk of this happening, but if I don’t have to take that chance, why would I?
No one’s really given me anything all that great yet.
I do live right down the road from this pat moore guy though. We should hang out and ride some time.
In case you change your mind.
I still don’t understand why you want us to change your mind. No one can do that but you.
Condom effectiveness is roughly 99.98% when used correctly.
Vasectomy effectiveness is roughly 99.85%
(http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/factsheet/fscondom.htm and Vasectomy Procedure: Effectiveness, Recovery, Side Effects, Pros & Cons)
Seems like you might be safer with a condom. That being said, I have busted a condom before, but you sure as heck know when it happens. The feeling goes from from wow to WOW really quick. My wife and I always double up methods just in case, birth control and condom because I don’t mind condoms. If you are dating a girl just convince her to use birth control, it’s good for most women anyway. Combine that with a condom and you’ll be fine.
If you are just picking up women at that bar chances are they’ll be on birth control anyway, and of course you’ll be wearing a condom. I don’t see a reason to snip. If you do break that condom just have her pop an RU-486 pill and she’ll be fine. (No, it doesn’t kill the baby, it prevents implantation in a similar way to some birth control pills.)
Even if I eventually get snipped (you can’t uni or bike for months afterwards!) my wife will probably stay on birth control just in case. I do know people who have gotten pregnant while on birth control, but no one who’s gotten pregnant from a broken condom - but it of course happens, just like vasc pregnancies. The only sure way is to make sure you always double up methods or have that emergency RU pill in your bathroom cabinet. At least when a condom breaks you get a warning, with a pill or vasc by the time you know she’s pregnant it’s too late to pop that pill.
Condoms feel bad.
+1 on (more or less) that whole thing.
You sound like me at that age.
I’m now at this age
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and I still feel exactly the same way.
Having children on this planet at this time is akin to renting out rooms in a burning building.
Just say no, Vhemtly.
The movie Idiocracy springs to mind.
If your going to get a vasectomy then you should get some of your sperm frozen at a sperm bank in case you decide to have kids later in life.
Just a question does a vasectomy stop sperm production or just cut the tubes.
cuts the the tubes so you can’t ejaculate. some times its reversible but as far as i know you can’t reverse it most of the time.
but if sperm is still produced, you wouldn’t have a freeze some, you could just get some fresh stuff with a needle.
I should have asked “Does cutting the tubes stop sperm production”